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JESUS Was MUSLIM !

 
 
Sabz5150
 
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Reply Mon 29 Dec, 2008 06:03 am
@SWORD of GOD,
Actually, this Oktar character owes me about a trillion or so Lira, and if Sword can show direct evidence for this deity of his using the scientific method, I'd pass the check right on over (whenever Okkie pays me... unless it's another fraud.)
SWORD of GOD
 
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Reply Mon 29 Dec, 2008 07:15 am
@Sabz5150,
For those pathetic atheists who hate the TRUTH because it is against their self desires, and who know nothing about anything.

"And they belied them (those signs and verses) wrongfully and arrogantly, though their own selves were convinced thereof (i.e. those (signs and verses) are from Allah (God), and hated to believe in the Message of Monotheism). So see what was the end of the Mufsidun (disbelievers, disobedient to Allah, evil-doers and liars.)." [The Noble Quran 27:14]




[SIZE="3"]Keith L. Moore, PhD [/SIZE]

Professor Emeritus of Anatomy and Cell Biology; Faculty of Medicine, University of Toronto, Toronto, Ontario, Canada, Visiting Professor of Clinical Anatomy, Department of Human Anatomy and Cell Science, University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada.
Source: Keith L. Moore, PhD

The following is quoted from the official website of [SIZE="3"]The American Association of Clinical Anatomists[/SIZE] AACA: Honored Member: Dr Moore

Quote:
Honored Member Award 1994

Keith L. Moore, MSc, PhD, FIAC, FRSM

Keith L. Moore, Professor Emeritus in Division of Anatomy, Department of Surgery, Former Chair of Anatomy and Associate Dean for Basic Medical Sciences in the Faculty of Medicine, University of Toronto, Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Dr. Moore was one of the founding members of the AACA. His past and present activities include research, teaching, and publishing widely on the subjects of human anatomy and embryology. The text for which he is most widely known (now co-authored with Dr. Art Dalley) Clinically Oriented Anatomy , is the most popular English-language anatomy textbook in the world, used by scientists and physicians alike. The book is especially popular because of its clinical "blue boxes" that relate the classical anatomy to real-world concepts in the diagnosis and treatment of patients. Dr. Moore is also active in other anatomical associations including American Association of Anatomists and Federative International Committee on Anatomical Terminology, among others. His awards and honors are lengthy and indicative of his stature in anatomical circles. His dedication to the AACA and its activities was officially recognized in 1994 when he was made an Honorary Member. He continues to invest in developing the field through his creation of Keith L. Moore/Lippincott, Williams and Wilkins Presidential Address Award of the AACA in 2004, and a new Keith and Marion Moore Blue Box Award for the best student publication annually in Clinical Anatomy . The AACA continues to be enriched by his passion for the education of students in anatomy and the training of new future educators in the field.



And the following is quoted from Journal of Anatomy (J Anat. 2006 March; 208(3): 393.) Source: Clinically Oriented Anatomy

Quote:
Clinically Oriented Anatomy, 5. By Keith L Moore and Arthur F Dalley II. xxxiii

Clinically Oriented Anatomy


BOOKS:

1- Clinically Oriented Anatomy

Link to the book Amazon.com: Clinically Oriented Anatomy: North American Edition (Clinically Oriented Anatomy (Moore)): Keith L Moore, Arthur F Dalley: Books

Authors:
by [SIZE="3"]Keith L Moore [/SIZE](Author), [SIZE="2"]Arthur F Dalley[/SIZE] (Author)


2- Developing Human

Link to the book Amazon.com: The Developing Human: Clinically Oriented Embryology With STUDENT CONSULT Online Access: Keith L. Moore, T. V. N. Persaud: Books

Authors:
[SIZE="3"]Keith L. Moore, PhD [/SIZE]
[SIZE="3"]T.V.N. Persaud, MD, PhD[/SIZE]

ISBN: 0721694128
Format: Softcover




3- Before We Are Born

Link to the book Amazon.com: Before We Are Born: Essentials of Embryology and Birth Defects With STUDENT CONSULT Online Access (Before We Are Born: Essentials of Embryology & Birth Defects): Keith L. Moore, T. V. N. Persaud: Books

Authors:
[SIZE="3"]Keith L. Moore, PhD
T.V.N. Persaud, MD, PhD [/SIZE]



ISBN: 0721694128
Format: Softcover
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Mon 29 Dec, 2008 09:43 am
@SWORD of GOD,
I think he's just ignoring us now. If that's the case then i'm not sure who he is trying to convince.
mako cv
 
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Reply Tue 30 Dec, 2008 12:18 am
@Fatal Freedoms,
The simple answer is that Jesus is a myth, in the same manner as Jehovah, Buddha, Mithra, Krishna, Osiris, Erakles, Attis and Allah are all myths with no real truth to their teachings or existence. :patriot:
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Sabz5150
 
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Reply Tue 30 Dec, 2008 01:21 am
@SWORD of GOD,
SWORD of GOD;63200 wrote:
For those pathetic atheists who hate the TRUTH because it is against their self desires, and who know nothing about anything.


And for the believer with a pathetic understanding of science... great, you post up a few books on anatomy. This is evidence for your deity how? I'd expect if Moore was capable of verifying that this deity existed, that he would have a PEER REVIEWED scientific paper showing this. Writing books on anatomy and scientifically verifying the existence of a deity are two different things.

You have not once shown any scientific evidence towards your deity, only copy-pasting correlation/causation along with a group of people who also have not once shown scientific evidence towards this very same deity. See, you're dealing with me now... and I will freely call you out on your pseudoscience every single time. I will freely point out that you have zero knowledge and comprehension of the scientific method of inquiry.

I have challenged you to show the existence of your deity through the avenues of scientific inquiry, and you have failed miserably. Quoting religious scripture and mincing up the words to fit your argument is laughable at best, pathetic at its worst. You cannot come up with one test, one verifiable experiment, one single shred of scientific paperwork, anything that can scientifically verify your deity. You are reliant on a religious text to do this which puts you in a circular argument that even you can't get out of.

If your deity existed, you would not need a religious text to show this. Nobody needs it to verify heliocentricism or the expansion of the universe. Nor is it needed to explain the diversity of life and how it interacts. So why is the ONLY way to "explain" this deity contained in a book supposedly written/inspired by this deity?

I again challenge you to show direct scientific evidence of this deity. Your test must pass scrutiny of scientific peer review and must be fully reproducible with conclusive results across the board. If you wanna talk science, you had better be prepared to walk it. If I catch you veering even slightly, I will call you on it. If you attempt to use circular reasoning, strawmen or ad homs, I will call you on it.

Preach religion all you want, but if you try to call it science, be ready to back it up.
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Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Tue 30 Dec, 2008 02:07 am
@SWORD of GOD,
SWORD of GOD;63200 wrote:
For those pathetic atheists who hate the TRUTH because it is against their self desires, and who know nothing about anything.


Your mythology is far from truth. A book of fables written by cattle-herders, and nothing more. If you want me or anyone else for that matter to read your posts you might want to answer and reply to our posts, otherwise you'll be ignored like the crazed zealot that you sound like.
SWORD of GOD
 
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Reply Tue 30 Dec, 2008 04:22 am
@Fatal Freedoms,
[SIZE="3"]Dr. Joe Leigh Simpson[/SIZE] is the Chairman of the Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Professor of Obstetrics and Gynecology, and Professor of Molecular and Human Genetics at the Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Texas, USA. Formerly, he was Professor of Ob-Gyn and the Chairman of the Department of Ob-Gyn at the University of Tennessee, Memphis, Tennessee, USA. He was also the President of the American Fertility Society. He has received many awards, including the Association of Professors of Obstetrics and Gynecology Public Recognition Award in 1992. Professor Simpson studied the following two sayings of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him):

[SIZE="3"]{In every one of you, all components of your creation are collected together in your mother’s womb by forty days...}1 [/SIZE]

[SIZE="3"]{If forty-two nights have passed over the embryo, God sends an angel to it, who shapes it and creates its hearing, vision, skin, flesh, and bones....}2 [/SIZE]

He studied these two sayings of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) extensively, noting that the first forty days constitute a clearly distinguishable stage of embryo-genesis. He was particularly impressed by the absolute precision and accuracy of those sayings of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Then, during one conference, he gave the following opinion:

[SIZE="2"]“So that the two hadeeths (the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad ) that have been noted provide us with a specific time table for the main embryological development before forty days. Again, the point has been made, I think, repeatedly by other speakers this morning: these hadeeths could not have been obtained on the basis of the scientific knowledge that was available [at] the time of their writing . . . . It follows, I think, that not only there is no conflict between genetics and religion but, in fact, religion can guide science by adding revelation to some of the traditional scientific approaches, that there exist statements in the Quran shown centuries later to be valid, which support knowledge in the Quran having been derived from God.”[/SIZE] (View the RealPlayer video of this comment here http://www.islam-guide.com/video/simpson-1.ram )


Footnotes:

(1) Narrated in Saheeh Muslim, #2643, and Saheeh Al-Bukhari, #3208.
(2) Narrated in Saheeh Muslim, #2645.



'[52] Say: "Tell me, if it (the Quran) is from Allah (God), and you disbelieve in it? Who is more astray than one who is in opposition far away (from Allah's Right Path and His obedience).
[53] We (Allah) will show them Our Signs in the universe, and in their own selves, until it becomes manifest to them that this (the Quran) is the truth. Is it not sufficient in regard to your Lord that He is a Witness over all things?"

[The Noble Quran 41:52-53]
Sabz5150
 
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Reply Tue 30 Dec, 2008 04:58 am
@SWORD of GOD,
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/6_weeks_pregnant.png

Behold. 42 days.

You've got a long way to go. Doesn't look like everything is "shaped" to me. And about the tail...

Again, not the evidence you seek.

More importantly, show me this visiting "angel". If somebody came to visit, I'm quite certain I'd know about it. Looks like you have TWO things to scientifically verify... you're working BACKWARDS :rollinglaugh:
SWORD of GOD
 
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Reply Tue 30 Dec, 2008 07:44 am
@Sabz5150,
[SIZE="3"]The Quran on Human Embryonic Development: [/SIZE]


(The following illustrations are borrowed from 'A Brief Illustrated Guide To Understanding Islam')


In the Holy Quran, Allah [SIZE="3"]"We (Allah) created man (Adam) from an extract of clay. Then We made him (the offspring of Adam) as a drop in a place of settlement, firmly fixed. Then We made the drop into an alaqah (leech, suspended thing, and blood clot), then We made the alaqah into a mudghah (chewed substance) then We made the mudgah into a little lump of flesh, then We made out of that little lump of flesh bones, then We clothed the bones with flesh, and then We brought it forth as another creation...." 1
[The Noble Quran, 23:12-14]
[/SIZE]


Literally, the Arabic word alaqah has three meanings: (1) leech, (2) suspended thing, and (3) blood clot.

In comparing a leech to an embryo in the alaqah stage, we find similarity between the two2 as we can see in figure 1. Also, the embryo at this stage obtains nourishment from the blood of the mother, similar to the leech, which feeds on the blood of others.3

http://www.islam-guide.com/ch1-1-a-img1.jpg
Figure 1http://www.islam-guide.com/ch1-1-a-img2.jpg
Figure 2: We can see in this diagram the suspension of an embryo during the alaqah stage in the womb (uterus) of the mother. (The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 66.)

http://www.islam-guide.com/ch1-1-a-img3.jpg
Figure 3http://www.islam-guide.com/ch1-1-a-img4.jpg
Figure 4http://www.islam-guide.com/ch1-1-a-img5.jpg
Figure 5: Photograph of an embryo at the mudghah stage (28 days old). The embryo at this stage acquires the appearance of a chewed substance, because the somites at the back of the embryo somewhat resemble teeth marks in a chewed substance. The actual size of the embryo is 4 mm. (The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 82, from Professor Hideo Nishimura, Kyoto University, Kyoto, Japan.)


http://www.islam-guide.com/ch1-1-a-img6.jpg
Figure 6: When comparing the appearance of an embryo at the mudghah stage with a piece of gum that has been chewed, we find similarity between the two.
A) Drawing of an embryo at the mudghah stage. We can see here the somites at the back of the embryo that look like teeth marks. (The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 79.)
B) Photograph of a piece of gum that has been chewed.


How could Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) have possibly known all this 1400 years ago, when scientists have only recently discovered this using advanced equipment and powerful microscopes which did not exist at that time? Hamm and Leeuwenhoek were the first scientists to observe human sperm cells (spermatozoa) using an improved microscope in 1677 (more than 1000 years after prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) ). They mistakenly thought that the sperm cell contained a miniature preformed human being that grew when it was deposited in the female genital tract.7

Professor Emeritus Keith L. Moore8 http://www.islam-guide.com/video/moore-1.ramhttp://www.islam-guide.com/video/moore-2.ram ).



Footnotes:

[SIZE="1"](1) Please note that what is between these special brackets ... in is only a translation of the meaning of the Quran. It is not the Quran itself, which is in Arabic.

(2) The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 8.

(3) Human Development as Described in the Quran and Sunnah, Moore and others, p. 36.

(4) Human Development as Described in the Quran and Sunnah, Moore and others, pp. 37-38.

(5) The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 65.

(6) The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 8.

(7) The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 9.

(8) Note: The occupations of all the scientists mentioned in this web site were last updated in 1997.

(9) The reference for this saying is This is the Truth (videotape). For a copy of this videotape, please visit this page.

(10) This is the Truth (videotape).

(11) This is the Truth (videotape). For a copy, see footnote no. 9. [/SIZE]
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Tue 30 Dec, 2008 08:01 am
@SWORD of GOD,
SWORD of GOD;63211 wrote:

[SIZE="3"]"We (Allah) created man from an extract of clay. Then We made him as a drop in a place of settlement, firmly fixed. Then We made the drop into an alaqah (leech, suspended thing, and blood clot), then We made the alaqah into a mudghah (chewed substance)..." 1
[The Noble Quran, 23:12-14]
[/SIZE]


This is absolutely absurd.

Not only is this not original it's also scientifically invalid.

The idea of people being made from clay is taken from the greek story of Prometheus who creates people from clay.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i127/Darkmatters/S2%20news/S2golem.jpg


The fact is that people are composed of living matter (cells) not clay. The only clay to be found in the human body we be from consuming food that has bits of clay on it.

also embryo's aren't chewed substances, frankly it's embarrassing that you would even try to defend this drivel.

I can give you a infinitely longer list of chewed things that have no similarity to human embryos:

http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:kTmDysyWNh7peM:http://school.discoveryeducation.com/clipart/images/chewedpencil.gif

http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:pAbDAMtdMkefHM:http://eshop.maya.cz/images/zvejka_300x300.png

http://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:GARS8Z7n24YOlM:http://66.43.244.141/soapyone/SoapyOne/2nd%2520Punishment%2520from%2520Donna/Irish_Spring_Original_2nd_Biite_Chewed.JPG

http://tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:RRDhpyrZ_3lwFM:http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/ede555/Chewed.jpg

http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:QrUriaRQMyv_RM:http://loscuatroojos.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/chewed-wire-bundle.jpg

Do you think any of these will become human beings.
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SWORD of GOD
 
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Reply Tue 30 Dec, 2008 08:04 am
@SWORD of GOD,
[SIZE="3"]"We (Allah) created man ([SIZE="4"]Adam)[/SIZE] from an extract of clay. Then We made him ([SIZE="4"]the offspring of Adam[/SIZE]) as a drop in a place of settlement, firmly fixed. Then We made the drop into an alaqah (leech, suspended thing, and blood clot), then We made the alaqah into a mudghah (chewed substance) then We made the mudgah into a little lump of flesh, then We made out of that little lump of flesh bones, then We clothed the bones with flesh, and then We brought it forth as another creation...." 1

[The Noble Quran, 23:12-14]
[/SIZE]
SWORD of GOD
 
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Reply Tue 30 Dec, 2008 08:20 am
@SWORD of GOD,
[SIZE="3"]Dr. E. Marshall Johnson[/SIZE] is Professor Emeritus of Anatomy and Developmental Biology at Thomas Jefferson University, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA. There, for 22 years he was Professor of Anatomy, the Chairman of the Department of Anatomy, and the Director of the Daniel Baugh Institute. He was also the President of the Teratology Society. He has authored more than 200 publications. In 1981, during the Seventh Medical Conference in Dammam, Saudi Arabia, Professor Johnson said in the presentation of his research paper:

[SIZE="2"][/SIZE] (View the RealPlayer video of this comment here http://www.islam-guide.com/video/johnson-1.ram )

Also he said: [SIZE="2"][/SIZE](1) (View the RealPlayer video of this comment here http://www.islam-guide.com/video/johnson-2.ram )


Footnote:

(1) The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was illiterate. He could not read nor write, but he dictated the Quran to his Companions and commanded some of them to write it down.
SWORD of GOD
 
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Reply Tue 30 Dec, 2008 08:31 am
@SWORD of GOD,
[SIZE="3"]From Atheism to [SIZE="4"]Islam[/SIZE]:[/SIZE] Video

[SIZE="3"]Dr. Jeffrey Lang[/SIZE] A Journey from Atheism to Islam in America.

Watch the interview here: Welcome to The Deen Show

Watch this interview with Dr. Jeffrey Lang who is a Full Professor of Mathematics at the University of Kansas, one of the biggest universities in the United States. He started his religious journey on Jan 30, 1954, when he was born in a Roman Catholic family in Bridgeport, Connecticut. The first 18 years of his life were spent in Catholic schools, which left him with many unanswered questions about God and the Christian religion, Lang said, as he narrated his story of Islam "Like most kids back in the late 60s and early 70s, I started questioning all the values that we had at those times, political, social and religious," Lang said "I rebelled against all the institutions that society held sacred including the Catholic Church," he said.

By the time he reached the age of 18, Lang had become a full-fledged atheist. "If there is a God, and he is all merciful and all loving, then why is there suffering on this earth? Why does not He just take us to heaven? Why create all these people to suffer?" Such were the questions that came up in his mind in those days.

As a young lecturer in mathematics at San Francisco University, Lang found his religion where God is finally a reality. I invite you to listen here live to the rest of his story and how he came to Islam, open your mind humble your heart and enjoy the Show.

Watch the interview here: Welcome to The Deen Show
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Tue 30 Dec, 2008 09:44 am
@SWORD of GOD,
[size="7"]are You Gonna Engage In Discussion, Sword?[/size]

hopefully that got your attention...
SWORD of GOD
 
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Reply Wed 31 Dec, 2008 01:08 am
@Fatal Freedoms,
[SIZE="3"]Dr. William W. Hay[/SIZE] is a well-known marine scientist. He is Professor of Geological Sciences at the University of Colorado, Boulder, Colorado, USA. He was formerly the Dean of the Rosenstiel School of Marine and Atmospheric Science at the University of Miami, Miami, Florida, USA.

:

Well, I would think it must be the divine being. (View the RealPlayer video of this comment here http://www.islam-guide.com/video/hay-1.ram )
Sabz5150
 
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Reply Wed 31 Dec, 2008 01:24 am
@SWORD of GOD,
How odd... I find nothing about his "admittance" other than the video you specify. Not even his bio at UofC brings up anything of that nature.

However, may I present the "List of Steves"

The List of Steves | NCSE

These are scientists who have come forth stating evolutionary biology is fact. Many of them are leaders in their field, some are Nobel laureates.

All of them named Steve, showing that there are more scientists named Steve that accept evolutionary biology than there are which claim ANY religion is correct TOTAL.



Why is the only thing you can do is post from religious sites full of questionable videos? I can supply you with more information than you could possibly read in your lifetime supporting natural evolutionary biology. All of which is peer reviewed and verified through scientific experiment.

Perhaps its because you've lost the argument and you're just plugging your ears. Tell me then, what does your noble text say about endogenous retroviruses? DNA? RNA? How about quantum entanglement or good old fashioned atomics? Radioactive decay? Atomic structure? Is there some sort of mincing you can find concerning E=MC2?

Please, bring forth your wisdom on these topics.
SWORD of GOD
 
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Reply Wed 31 Dec, 2008 06:07 am
@Sabz5150,
[SIZE="3"]The Fameous Atheist Philosopher 'Anthony Flew' Announced that Indeed the Universe was Created!

'I Do Believe in God after all'[/SIZE]


One of the most renowned atheists of the past half century has changed his mind and decided that there is a God after all.

(Anthony Flew)

The newspapers were echoing with these regret-filled words by Antony Flew, in his time a well-known atheist philosopher. The 81-year-old British professor of philosophy Flew chose to become an atheist at the age of 15, and first made a name for himself in the academic field with a paper published in 1950. In the 54 years that followed, he defended atheism as a teacher at the universities of Oxford, Aberdeen, Keele and Reading, at many American and Canadian universities he visited, in debates, books, lecture halls and articles. In recent days, however, Flew has announced that he has abandoned this error and accepts that the universe was created.

The decisive factor in this radical change of view is the clear and definitive evidence revealed by science on the subject of creation. Flew realized, in the face of the information-based complexity of life, that the true origin of life is intelligent design and that the atheism he had espoused for 66 years was a discredited philosophy.

Flew announced the scientific reasons underlying this change in belief in these terms:
[1]

[2]

[3]

The DNAThe Hidden Face of God," Gerald Schroeder, one of the creationist scientists who influenced Flew, writes:

A single consciousness, a universal wisdom, pervades the universe. The discoveries of science, those that search the quantum nature of subatomic matter, have moved us to the brink of a startling realization: all existence is the expression of this wisdom. In the laboratories we experience it as information that first physically articulated as energy and then condensed into the form of matter. Every particle, every being, from atom to human, appears to represent a level of information, of wisdom. [10]


Scientific research into both the functioning of the cell and the subatomic particles of matter has revealed this fact in an indisputable manner: Life and the universe were brought into being from nothing by the will of an entity possessed of a superior mind and wisdom. There is no doubt that the possessor of that knowledge and mind that designed the universe at all levels is Almighty Allah (God). Allah (God) reveals these truths in many verses of the Quran.



[SIZE="2"]References:[/SIZE] Washington Times - Lifelong atheist changes mind about divine creatorPhilosophy NowSorry, says atheist-in-chief, I do believe in God after all - Times Onlinehttp://www.nature.com/nsu/030421/030421-6.htmlPhilosophy NowBiola > Page 1 : Biola News & Communications.)

[10] Gerald Schroeder, The Hidden Face of God, Touchstone, New York, 2001, p. xi.
SWORD of GOD
 
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Reply Wed 31 Dec, 2008 06:12 am
@SWORD of GOD,


The Sunday Times
June 11, 2006
By: Steven Swinford
"We (Allah) will show them Our Signs in the universe, and in their own selves, until it becomes manifest to them that this (the Quran) is the truth. Is it not sufficient in regard to your Lord that He is a Witness over all things?"

[The Noble Quran 41:53]
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Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Wed 31 Dec, 2008 06:28 am
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;63217 wrote:
[size="7"]are You Gonna Engage In Discussion, Sword?[/size]

hopefully that got your attention...


Apparently not.

Then i'm done talking with you. You will be ignored.
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Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Wed 31 Dec, 2008 06:30 am
@Sabz5150,
Sabz5150;63230 wrote:
How odd... I find nothing about his "admittance" other than the video you specify. Not even his bio at UofC brings up anything of that nature.

However, may I present the "List of Steves"

The List of Steves | NCSE

These are scientists who have come forth stating evolutionary biology is fact. Many of them are leaders in their field, some are Nobel laureates.

All of them named Steve, showing that there are more scientists named Steve that accept evolutionary biology than there are which claim ANY religion is correct TOTAL.



Why is the only thing you can do is post from religious sites full of questionable videos? I can supply you with more information than you could possibly read in your lifetime supporting natural evolutionary biology. All of which is peer reviewed and verified through scientific experiment.

Perhaps its because you've lost the argument and you're just plugging your ears. Tell me then, what does your noble text say about endogenous retroviruses? DNA? RNA? How about quantum entanglement or good old fashioned atomics? Radioactive decay? Atomic structure? Is there some sort of mincing you can find concerning E=MC2?

Please, bring forth your wisdom on these topics.


It doesn't seem he is interested in debating you Sabz, he'd rather ignore us and advertise his religion.
 

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