JESUS Was MUSLIM !

Reminds me of those people, you know those people, they just keep talking and talking on the phone, you set the phone down, make a sandwich and pick the phone back up and they're still talking....lol :rollinglaugh:

[SIZE="3"]The Miracolous Quran: SENSE OF HEARING AND SIGHT[/SIZE]


The first sense to develop in a developing human embryo is hearing. The foetus can hear sounds after the 24th week. Subsequently, the sense of sight is developed and by the 28th week, the retina becomes sensitive to light. Consider the following Quranic verses related to the development of the senses in the embryo:

[SIZE="3"]"And He (Allah) gave You (the faculties of) hearing and sight and feeling (And understanding)."
[The Noble Quran 32:9][/SIZE]

"Verily We (Allah) created Man from a drop Of mingled sperm, In order to try him: So We gave him (the gifts), Of Hearing and Sight."
[The Noble Quran 76:2]

"It is He (Allah) Who has created For you (the faculties of) Hearing, sight, feeling And understanding: little thanks It is ye give!"
[The Noble Quran 23:78]


In all these verses the sense of hearing is mentioned before that of sight. Thus the Quranic description matches with the discoveries in modern embryology.

[SIZE="3"]The Miracolous Quran: SEX DETERMINATION[/SIZE]

The sex of a fetus is determined by the nature of the sperm and not the ovum. The sex of the child, whether female or male, depends on whether the 23rd pair of chromosomes is XX or XY respectively. Primarily sex determination occurs at fertilization and depends upon the type of sex chromosome in the sperm that fertilizes an ovum. If it is an ?X? bearing sperm that fertilizes the ovum, the fetus is a female and if it is a ?Y? bearing sperm then the fetus is a male.

[SIZE="3"]"That He (Allah) did create In pairs ? male and female, From a seed when lodged (In its place)." [The Noble Quran 53:45-46][/SIZE]

The Arabic word nutfah means a minute quantity of liquid and tumna means ejaculated or planted. Therefore nutfah specifically refers to sperm because it is ejaculated. The Quran says:

[SIZE="3"]"Was he not a drop of sperm emitted (In lowly form)? "Then did he become A clinging clot; Then did (Allah) make And fashion (him) In due proportion. "And of him He made Two sexes, male And female."
[The Noble Quran 75:37-39][/SIZE]

Here again it is mentioned that a small quantity (drop) of sperm (indicated by the word nutfatan min maniyyin) which comes from the man is responsible for the sex of the fetus.

Mothers-in-law in the Indian subcontinent, as an example, by and large prefer having male grandchildren and often blame their daughters-in-law if the child is not of the desired sex. If only they knew that the determining factor is the nature of the male sperm and not the female ovum! If they were to blame anybody, they should blame their sons and not their daughters-in-law since both the Quran and Science hold that it is the male fluid that is responsible for the sex of the child!

This is brilliant stuff.

Insert fingers into ones ears and start shouting LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALAL

[SIZE="3"]Dr. Gerald C. Goeringer [/SIZE]is Course Director and Associate Professor of Medical Embryology at the Department of Cell Biology, School of Medicine, Georgetown University, Washington, DC, USA.




During the Eighth Saudi Medical Conference in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, Professor Goeringer stated the following in the presentation of his research paper:

[SIZE="3"]?In a relatively few aayahs (Quranic verses) is contained a rather comprehensive description of human development from the time of commingling of the gametes through organogenesis. No such distinct and complete record of human development, such as classification, terminology, and description, existed previously. In most, if not all, instances, this description antedates by many centuries the recording of the various stages of human embryonic and fetal development recorded in the traditional scientific literature.?[/SIZE] (View the RealPlayer video of this comment here http://www.islam-guide.com/video/goeringer-1.ram)

Yeah he copies and pastes it all anyways.

[SIZE="3"]The Miracolous Quran: FOETUS PROTECTED BY THREE VEILS OF DARKNESS[/SIZE]


[SIZE="3"]"He (Allah) makes you, In the wombs of your mothers, In stages, one after another, In three veils of darkness."
[The Noble Quran 39:6][/SIZE]

According to Prof. Keith Moore these three veils of darkness in the Quran refer to:

[SIZE="2"](i) anterior abdominal wall of the mother
(ii) the uterine wall
(iii) the amnio-chorionic membrane.[/SIZE]

Still no God then?

[SIZE="4"]Allah's (God's) Signs in the DNA[/SIZE]

The question of the existence of God that the atheists remained for along time devoting themselves to topple and make it shaky has become so strong that none but those with blind hearts can deny. The law of chance and Darwinism, if put in face of the new discoveries in the universe and the anatomy of the human body, will be something ridiculous , such untenable claims should be closed in the archives of history as it has never been proved and in the same time self-contradictory.

Everything from the atom to the galaxy is tailored to the well being of the human being. The discovery of the DNA and its constituents and how it works has dealt another heavy blow to the law of chance. Allah says in the Holy Quran what means " We shall show them Our portents (signs) on the horizons and within themselves until it will be manifest unto them that it is the Truth. Doth not thy Lord suffice, since He is Witness over all things" [The Noble Quran 41:53] and Also God says "And in your creation, and all the beasts that He scattereth in the earth, are portents for a folk whose faith is sure." [The Noble Quran 45:4]

Bruce Alberts, president of the National Academy of Sciences, "The entire cell can be viewed as a factory that contains an elaborate network of interlocking assembly lines, each of which is composed of a set of large protein machines."

Even the simplest cells are bristling with high-tech machinery. On the outside, their surfaces are studded with sensors, gates, pumps and identification markers.



Inside, cells are jam-packed with power plants, automated workshops and recycling units. Miniature monorails whisk materials from one location to another. No such system could arise in a blind, step-by-step Darwinian process.

The most advanced, automated modern factory, with its computers and robots all coordinated on a precisely timed schedule, is less complex than the inner workings of a single cell.

"A bacterium is far more complex than any inanimate system known to man. There is not a laboratory in the world which can compete with the biochemical activity of the smallest living organism. One cell is more complicated than the largest computer that man has ever made." - Sir James Gray, from Cambridge University

DNA is like a language in the heart of the cell, a molecular message, a set of instructions telling the cell how to construct proteins-much like the software needed to run a computer. Moreover, the amount of information DNA includes is staggering: A single cell of the human body contains three or four times more information as all 30 volumes of the Encyclopedia Britannica. As a result, the question of the origin of life must now be redefined as the question of the origin of biological information. Can information arise by natural forces alone? Or does it require an intelligent agent?



DNA is composed of ordinary chemicals (bases, sugars, phosphates that react according to ordinary laws. What makes DNA function as a message is not the chemicals themselves but rather their sequence, their pattern. The chemicals in DNA are grouped into molecules (called nucleotides) that act like letters in a message, and they must be in a particular order if the message is going to be intelligible. If the letters are scrambled, the result is nonsense. So the crucial question is whether the sequence of chemical "letters" arose by natural causes or whether it required an intelligent source. Is it the product of law or design?

Since DNA contains information, the case can be stated even more strongly in terms of information theory, a field of research that investigates the ways information is transmitted. The naturalistic scientist has only two possible ways to explain the origin of life-either chance or natural law. But information theory provides a powerful tool for discounting both of these explanations. Both chance and law lead to structures with low information content, whereas DNA has a very high information content."

The sequence of basis in DNA can not be explained by natural law because there are no chemical laws that make any sequence more likely than another. At the same time these sequences are so complicated that they can not be explained by chance.

"Based on probability factors . . any viable DNA strand having over 84 nucleotides cannot be the result of haphazard mutations. At that stage, the probabilities are 1 in 4.80 x 10^(50). Such a number, if written out, would read:

480,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

"Mathematicians agree that any requisite number beyond 10^(50) has, statistically, a zero probability of occurrence (and even that gives it the benefit of the doubt!). Any species known to us, including the smallest single-cell bacteria, have enormously larger number of nucleotides than 100 or 1000. In fact, single cell bacteria display about 3,000,000 nucleotides, aligned in a very specific sequence. This means that there is no mathematical probability whatever for any known species to have been the product of a random occurrence?random mutations (to use the evolutionist's favorite expression)."?I. L. Cohen, Darwin was Wrong, 1984, p. 205.

The study of DNA provides powerful new evidence that life is the product of intelligent design.

Today, holding on to the hope that some natural process will be found to explain DNA is supremely irrational. The elusive process that naturalists hope to find would have to be completely unprecedented, different in kind from any we currently know.

Although humans share about 97% of their DNA structure with some higher non-human animals, those last 3% are so vital that all of human civilization, religion, art, science, philosophy and, most importantly, their moral nature depends upon it.

It is the 3% that distinguishes the theistic view of man's origin from the non-theistic view, as well as from the various societal and cultural consequences distinguishing each belief. As John Quincy Adams warned long ago, without a belief in theistic origins [in that three percent difference] man will have no conscience. He will have no other law than that of the tiger and the shark."

ON ALL FRONTS, scientists are being forced to face up to the evidence for an intelligent cause. Ever since big bang theory was proposed, cosmologists have had to wrestle with the implications that the universe had an absolute beginning-and therefore a transcendent creator. The discovery of the information content in DNA is forcing biologists to recognize an intelligent cause for the origin of life. So, too, the fact of irreducible complexity is raising the question of design in living things.

Allah (God) says in the Holy Quran what means: "And say: Praise be to Allah Who will show you His portents so that ye shall know them. And thy Lord is not unaware of what ye (mortals) do." (The Noble Quran 27:39)

:lightbulb:

And all that information...



Fits on that.

One also has to wonder... why would an intelligent being use that amount of information for humans, but 100 times as much for the amoeba? Either the "designer" is inefficient or incompetent.

Also, if you use the word "chance" when speaking of evolution, you immediately show your ignorance towards the fact.

See, the thing about "God of the Gaps" arguers (like Sword) is that they put God in THEIR OWN gaps... the gaps in their knowledge. Somehow this happened, but since we don't know how, a designer must have done it. This is simply arguing from ignorance.

Sword, I again challenge you in front of everyone on this board... provide direct evidence for your deity. Do not attribute acts to it until you can show its existence beforehand.

If all you do is copy/paste from propaganda sites that get so much wrong, I will automatically assume that you cannot and that you have forfeited the debate.

Why don't you show how powerful your faith is and address my challenge directly? Or can you? I will await your response.

You will be waiting a long, long time. Ole SWORD is in full fanatical preach mode. Only by offering him a bacon sarnie will he stop

More Evidences from the Miracolous Quran


[SIZE="4"]Pulsar[/SIZE]

[SIZE="2"]What does Holy Quran says about the pulsar![/SIZE]

A pulsar is a highly magnetized neutron star, with a radius of 10-15 km, having somewhat greater mass than the Sun which has a radius of approximately 1 million km. Radiation is beamed out along the magnetic poles and pulses of radiation are received as the beam crosses the Earth, in the same manner as the beam from a lighthouse causes flashes. Being enormous cosmic flywheels with a tick attached, they make some of the best clocks known to mankind.

Pulsars originate when an old, massive star explodes as a supernova. In this process, the core of the star implodes. The core collapses through the white dwarf stage until its constituent protons and electrons combine to form neutrons. If it is not too massive (less than 1.4 times the mass of the Sun) it can stabilize at this point as a very hot, incredibly dense ball of neutrons with a thin crust of ordinary matter on its surface. Neutron stars are spinning rapidly when they form - up to about 800 and even one thousand rotations per second - and slow down as they age. These pulses of the pulsar are reminiscent of heart-beats or someone's knocking quickly at door.


The word "pulsar" comes from the verb to pulse. According to the American Heritage Dictionary, the word means to pulsate, to beat. Encarta Dictionary defines it as to beat rhythmically, to move or throb with a strong regular rhythm. Again, according to the Encarta Dictionary, the word "pulsate," which comes from the same root, means to expand and contract with a strong regular beat.

Following that discovery, it was realised that the phenomenon described in the Qur'an as "tariq," beating, bore a great similarity to the neutron stars known as pulsars

The Holy Quran mentions the pulsar by one of its most outstanding features ; Read the following verse from the Holy Quran :

Allah (God) says in the Holy Quran:

[SIZE="3"]"I swear by Heaven and the Tariq ( The Knocker ) ! And what will convey to you what the Tariq is? The Star Piercing [the darkness]!"
[Quran, 86:1-3][/SIZE]


The word ( Tarek and the word Al-thakeb ) are two different Arabic words that are used in the above-mentioned verse to describe the Pulsar , the word Altarek means in English " the Knocker or that beats quickly and the word " Al-thakeb" means " piercing ", these two characteristics ( knocker and piercing ) are one of the most specific features of pulsar .

Allah (God) in the above mentioned verse , though He needn't swear , Did swear by that star.when God swears , he swears by something great and also what He swear on is assuredly great.

The word "Tariq," name of the Sura 86, comes from the Arabic root "tarq," whose basic meaning is that of striking hard enough to produce a sound, or hitting. Bearing in mind the word's possible meaning as "beating," "striking hard," our attention may be being drawn in this sura to an important scientific fact. Before analysing this information, let us look at the other words employed in the verse to describe these stars. The term "al-taariqi" in the above verse means a star that pierces the night, that pierces the darkness, born at night, piercing and moving on, beating, striking, or sharp star. Furthermore, the term "wa" draws attention to the things being sworn on-the heaven and the Tariq.

In the third verse of Surat at-Tariq the term "al-najmu al-thaaqibu," meaning piercing, moving on, or opening holes, indicates that Tariq is a bright star that pierces a hole in the darkness and moves on. The concept of the term "adraaka" in the expression "And what will convey to you what the Tariq is?" refers to comprehension. Pulsars, formed through the compression of stars several times the size of the Sun, are among those celestial bodies that are hard to comprehend. The question in the verse emphasizes how hard it is to comprehend this beating star. (Allah knows best.)


[SIZE="3"]Hear The sound of Pulsars:[/SIZE]

These sounds are from the brightest pulsars in the sky, recorded using some of the largest radiotelescopes in the world. To hear the sound of a pulsar click here Jodrell Bank Observatory Pulsar Group

I find the funniest part to be the fact that he starts with a conclusion, then digs up facts to support it and ties it to an obscure verse in a text.

The total opposite of true scientific inquiry.

This is why nothing he says is taken seriously. He doesn't play by the rules.

Scientific Miracles Continue to Prove the Existence of Allah (God)

[SIZE="4"]The Coccyx[/SIZE]


The Coccyx is the last bone in the vertebral column. It was mentioned in many Hadiths (sayings of prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)) that this bone is the origin of humans and the seed from which they will be resurrected on the Day of Judgment and that this part doesn?t decay in the earth.

The honoured Hadiths:

(1) - Abu Huraira reported that The Prophet (PBUH) said: ?All what of son of Adam will (be eaten???) by the earthexcept the coccyx from which he was created and from which he will be resurrected ? Reported by Albukhari, Al Nassaii, Abu Daoud, Ibn Majah and Ahmad in his Mousnad and Malek in his Mouattaa.

(2)- As was reported by Abu Huraira the prophet (PBUH) said: ?There is a bone in the Son Of Adam that the earth will never eat. They said what is it Oh Prophet of Allah? He said: It is the coccyx? Reported by Albukhari, Al Nassaii, Abu Daoud, Ibn Majah, Ahmad in his book ?al Mousnad? and Malek in his book ?Al Mouattaa?.


So the previous Hadiths are clear and contain the following facts:

1. Human are created from the coccyx.

2. The coccyx does not get decayed.

3. On the Day of Judgment, the Resurrection will be from the coccyx.


Foetus malformation is a proof that the coccyx contains the mother cells for all the human tissues:

After the creation and formation of the foetus from the primitive streak and the primitive node, those reside in the last vertebrae of the sacrum (the coccyx) and retain their characteristics. If those are motivated somehow, they start to grow similarly to the foetus growth and so give a tumour (Teratoma) that resembles a defective foetus with some organs fully formed (hands or feet with nails) (see the picture). Therefore the sacrum indeed contains the mother cells and what the prophet (PBUH) said about the Resurrection of humans from their coccyx on the Day of Judgment has been proved.

The conclusion: the coccyx contains the primitive streak and primitive node and those are able to grow giving the three layers that form the foetus: ectoderm, mesoderm and endoderm and so can give all the organs as the surgeon when opening the tumour previously mentioned found fully formed organs inside it like teeth, hair?

Humans can be then recreated from their coccyx that contains the primitive streak and node of the overall potential.

And so the coccyx can not get decayed:

Researchers found that foetus cells? formation and organisation are exerted by the primitive streak and node and before their formation no cells? differentiation could have taken place. One of the most famous researchers who proved this was the German scientist Hans Spemann.

After his experiments on the primitive streak and node he found that those organise the creation of the foetus and so he called them ?The primary organiser?. He cut this part from one foetus and implanted it in another one in the primary embryonic stage (third and fourth week). This lead to the formation of a secondary foetus in the guest body due to the influence and organisation exerted by the surrounding guest?s cells on the implant.

The German scientist started his experiments on the amphibians by implanting the primary organiser in a second foetus, which led to the growth of a secondary embryo. The implantation of the cut primary organiser was in another foetus of the same age under the Epiblast layer and lead to the apparition of a secondary embryonic anlage.

In 1931, when Spemann crushed the primary organiser and implanted it again, the crushing did not affect the experiment as again, a secondary embryonic anlage grew.

In 1933, Spemann and other scientists conducted the same experiment but the primary organiser was boiled this time. A secondary embryonic anlage grew in spite of the boiling showing that the cells were not affected. In 1935, Spemann was awarded the Nobel Prize for his discovery of the Primary Organiser.

Where's God?

This is a bit like Where's Wally, except you can always find Wally,... eventually.

[SIZE="4"]The Universe Testifies to the Existence of Allah (God) [/SIZE]


Every thing in this universe is well-tuned to a certain purpose , no room here for chance . Paul Davies (British astrophysicist) says : "There is for me powerful evidence that there is something going on behind it all....It seems as though somebody has fine-tuned nature?s numbers to make the Universe....The impression of design is overwhelming".

Allah (God) refers to the well-tuned universe in a verse that condense heavy volumes in just few words that arise ecstasy in the human soul . Allah Almighty says:

[SIZE="3"] " Lo! We (Allah) have created every thing by measure."
[The Noble Quran, 54 :49][/SIZE]

[SIZE="3"]"And the heaven: He (Allah) has raised it high, and He has set up the Balance."
[The Noble Quran 55:7][/SIZE]

In the following table (quoted from Limits for the Universe by Hugh Ross, Ph.D. in Astronomy) , it shows how every thing is balanced and is calculated to an extent that the subtle difference can make life impossible and even end the universe before it begins. In this table , you will see some consonants in the universe:

1- Gravitational coupling constant

If larger: No stars less than 1.4 solar masses, hence short stellar life spans
If smaller: No stars more than 0.8 solar masses, hence no heavy element production



2- Strong nuclear force coupling constant

If larger: No hydrogen; nuclei essential for life are unstable
If smaller: No elements other than hydrogen


3- Weak nuclear force coupling constant

If larger: All hydrogen is converted to helium in the big bang, hence too much heavy elements
If smaller: No helium produced from big bang, hence not enough heavy elements


4- Electromagnetic coupling constant

If larger: No chemical bonding; elements more massive than boron are unstable to fission
If smaller: No chemical bonding


5- Ratio of protons to electrons formation

If larger: Electromagnetism dominates gravity preventing galaxy, star, and planet formation
If smaller: Electromagnetism dominates gravity preventing galaxy, star, and planet formation


6- Ratio of electron to proton mass

If larger: No chemical bonding
If smaller: No chemical bonding


7- Expansion rate of the universe

If larger: No galaxy formation
If smaller: Universe collapses prior to star formation


8- Entropy level of universe

If larger: No star condensation within the proto-galaxies
If smaller: No proto-galaxy formation


9- Mass density of the universe

If larger: Too much deuterium from big bang, hence stars burn too rapidly
If smaller: No helium from big bang, hence not enough heavy elements


10- Age of the universe

If older: No solar-type stars in a stable burning phase in the right part of the galaxy
If younger: Solar-type stars in a stable burning phase would not yet have formed


11- Initial uniformity of radiation

If smoother: Stars, star clusters, and galaxies would not have formed
If coarser: Universe by now would be mostly black holes and empty space


12- Average distance between stars

If larger: Heavy element density too thin for rocky planet production
If smaller: Planetary orbits become destabilized


To be continued.

LOL...you remind me of Christian Fundies in your attempt to put science into your mythology...sorry not buying it...can you spell coincidence...LOL:patriot:

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[SIZE="4"]The Universe Testifies to the Existence of Allah (God) [/SIZE]




13- Solar luminosity

If increases too soon: Runaway green house effect
If increases too late:: Frozen oceans



14- Fine structure constant*

If larger: No stars more than 0.7 solar masses
If smaller: No stars less then 1.8 solar masses


15- Decay rate of the proton

If greater: Life would be exterminated by the release of radiation
If smaller: Insufficient matter in the universe for life


16- 12C to 16O energy level ratio

If larger: Insufficient oxygen
If smaller: Insufficient carbon


17- Decay rate of 8Be

If slower:: Heavy element fusion would generate catastrophic explosions in all the stars
If faster: No element production beyond beryllium and, hence, no life chemistry possible


18- Mass difference between the neutron and the proton

If greater: Protons would decay before stable nuclei could form
If smaller: Protons would decay before stable nuclei could form


19- Initial excess of nucleons over anti-nucleons

If greater: Too much radiation for planets to form
If smaller: Not enough matter for galaxies or stars to form


20- Galaxy type

If too elliptical: Star formation ceases before sufficient heavy element buildup for life chemistry
If too irregular: Radiation exposure on occasion is too severe and/or heavy elements for life chemistry are not available



To be continued.

As I said, can you spell coincidence and semantics?if you will read all of Davies statement, plus those of Hoyle, Ellis, Sandage, O?Keefe, Greenstein, eddington, Penzias, Penrose, Rothman, Kistiakowsky, Jastrow, Hawking, Polyakov, Harrison, Milne, Parker, Zehavi, Dekel, Schawlow, Schaefer, von Braun, and Woese, it is quickly evident that they are predicating the Deist Creator, not the god of a ragged group of Bronze Age sheep screwers that was later adopted by later cult leaders (Paul and Mohammed) as a basis of their shearing the sheep and taking the gullible?s money?.LOL:patriot:

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[SIZE="4"]The Universe Testifies to the Existence of Allah (God) [/SIZE]

[SIZE="3"] " Lo! We (Allah) have created every thing by measure."
[The Noble Quran, 54 :49][/SIZE]

[SIZE="3"]"And the heaven: He (Allah) has raised it high, and He has set up the Balance."
[The Noble Quran 55:7][/SIZE]



21- Parent star distance from center of galaxy

If farther: Quantity of heavy elements would be insufficient to make rocky planets
If closer: Stellar density and radiation would be too great


22- Number of stars in the planetary system

If more than one: Tidal interactions would disrupt planetary orbits
If less than one: Heat produced would be insufficient for life


23- Parent star birth date

If more recent: Star would not yet have reached stable burning phase
If less recent: Stellar system would not yet contain enough heavy elements


24- Parent star mass

If greater: Luminosity would change too fast; star would burn too rapidly
If less: Range of distances appropriate for life would be too narrow; tidal forces would disrupt the rotational period for a planet of the right distance; uv radiation would be inadequate for plants to make sugars and oxygen


25- Parent star age

If older: Luminosity of star would change too quickly
If younger: Luminosity of star would change too quickly


26- Parent star color

If redder: Photosynthetic response would be insufficient
If bluer: Photosynthetic response would be insufficient


27- Supernovae eruptions

If too far: Not enough heavy element ashes for the formation of rocky planets
If too infrequent: Not enough heavy element ashes for the formation of rocky planets


28- White dwarf binaries

If too few: Insufficient fluorine produced for life chemistry to proceed
If too many: Disruption of planetary orbits from stellar density; life on the planet would be exterminated


29- Surface gravity (escape velocity)

If stronger: Atmosphere would retain too much ammonia and methane
If weaker: Planet's atmosphere would lose too much water


30- Distance from parent star

If farther: Planet would be too cool for a stable water cycle
If closer: Planet would be too warm for a stable water cycle


To be continued.