Quran Leads The Way to Science (Video)

@The Submitter,

The Koran is a book of lies. Mohammad was a relatively educated tribal warlord, and nothing more.

@politically-wrong,

Mods for all that is holy make Sword of Satin post links instead of entire tomes pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Well I can give the Islam for dummies version of the Koran.

Allah and his father use to worship Rocks, yes rocks and the moon and then one day Allah was having a nap in a Cave and he had a seizure and he heard voices in his head thus this is the beginning of Islam. In the seven hundreds one hundred years after Allah died (from VD would be my guess) some fella wrote down folklore and heresay. This is the basis of the Koran. I can get more tecnical is anyone so desires.

Here's a quote from The Ayatollah on sex with infants: A great leader of Islam he helped murder many Muslims in Iran.

A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby.
However, he should not penetrate. If he penetrates and the child is
harmed then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life.
This girl, however would not count as one of his four permanent wives".
(Arabic Source - 12th item under the title "Ketabonnekah")

I suggest people, well the liberals, read the book it doesn't get any better than the above.

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@The Submitter,

Do the right thing: say 'no' to Islam. The West defeated Nazism and Communism. We can defeat Islam, too. It will take time, but we can do it. I've decided to henceforth spend my summers fighting it, anyway I can.

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@Red cv,

Red;34386 wrote:

Mods for all that is holy make Sword of Satin post links instead of entire tomes pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Well I can give the Islam for dummies version of the Koran.

Allah and his father use to worship Rocks, yes rocks and the moon and then one day Allah was having a nap in a Cave and he had a seizure and he heard voices in his head thus this is the beginning of Islam. In the seven hundreds one hundred years after Allah died (from VD would be my guess) some fella wrote down folklore and heresay. This is the basis of the Koran. I can get more tecnical is anyone so desires.

Here's a quote from The Ayatollah on sex with infants: A great leader of Islam he helped murder many Muslims in Iran.

A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby.
However, he should not penetrate. If he penetrates and the child is
harmed then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life.
This girl, however would not count as one of his four permanent wives".
(Arabic Source - 12th item under the title "Ketabonnekah")

I suggest people, well the liberals, read the book it doesn't get any better than the above.

It's a very shameful response. Shame on you. You give a very bad example of a christian woman who posts such filthy passages from a non-Muslim evil leader called Khumaini and then blame it on Islam!

For your information Shiaat (Khumaini people) are Pagans (not Muslims) just like you christians. They worship men and graves as you worship a man. Their man-made faith is a hybride (mixture) from all false or corrupted faiths (like judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, paganism, Magainism, etc...) and they deceive ignorant people by calling themselves muslims. They are compared with bahaism.

Islam is that original true message inspired by Allah to his last and final messenger, Muhammad (peace be upon him) which you can find it in the Quran and in the authentic hadeeths.

Next time when you want to debate Muslims, quote from either the Noble Quran or from the Authentic Hadeeths (authentic collections of the sayings and teachings of the Prophet, Muhammad (peace be upon him)).

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@Pinochet73,

Pinochet73;34385 wrote:

The Koran is a book of lies. Mohammad was a relatively educated tribal warlord, and nothing more.

I have this feeling that you are trying your best to prove that the following biblical passages are true:

[SIZE="2"] "For vain men would be wise, though man be born like a wild ass's colt." [Job 11:12].[/SIZE]

[SIZE="2"]"Humans and animals have the same destiny. One dies just like the other. All of them have the same breath of life. Humans have no advantage over animals. All of life is pointless." [Ecclesiastes 3:19].[/SIZE]

If my feeling is correct then I can assure you that you have already done excellent job to prove these two passages!

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@The Submitter,

I don't think she asked for your opinion but heah, can't have everything.

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Their man-made faith is a hybride (mixture) from all false or corrupted faiths

Who wrote your book again?

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like judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, paganism, Magainism, etc...)

Whats funny is most if not all were around before your faith was invented.

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and they deceive ignorant people by calling themselves muslims.

Just like you have been deceived.

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Islam is that original true message inspired by Allah to his last and final messenger, Muhammad (peace be upon him) which you can find it in the Quran and in the authentic hadeeths.

Lets not and say we did.

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Next time when you want to debate Muslims. quote from either the Noble Quran or from the Authentic Hadeeths (authentic collections of the sayings and teachings of the Prophet, Muhammad (peace be upon him)).

Personally i think she can quote what ever the hell she feels like quoting. Who are you to tell her otherwise? Would you have her submit to you? Your really brave with women does it make you want to stone her? Would you do it for your honor? I would very much like to discuss/debate this with you but your not very forthcoming, why? I need not quote the quran because i would like your opinion on it, not what you think mahammid the messenger thinks you should say or believe?

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@Pinochet73,

Well for a Muslim you aren't very educated about world events, the quote is from the ex-leader of Iran. Oh and he was a muslim, a crazy barking mad man but oh he loved Allah so and his name: Ayatollah Khomeini.

Link:

Here's a feel good story about him:

Persian list of murderers and presumed culprits of the massacre of Iranian political prisoners in 1988 is today published in an Iranian internet site, www.roshangari.net

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@Red cv,

Red;34544 wrote:

Well for a Muslim you aren't very educated about world events, the quote is from the ex-leader of Iran. Oh and he was a muslim, a crazy barking mad man ......

I tried to help you regarding the wrong information you got and you intentionally want to believe. This was my response couple of posts above (post # 164) (check it here http://www.conflictingviews.com/t998-9/#post34394)

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For your information Shiaat (Khumaini people) are Pagans (not Muslims) just like you christians. They worship men and graves as you worship a man. Their man-made faith is a hybride (mixture) from all false or corrupted faiths (like judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, paganism, Magainism, etc...) and they deceive ignorant people by calling themselves muslims. They are compared with bahaism.

Nevertheless, you seem to insist on deceiving yourself and not respecting the readers of the Forum. Remember, this thread is about Sientific miracles of the Quran. I am sure when you could not bring anything credible from your fabricated bible to compare it with the Noble Quran, you chose the cheap run away tactic by spreading lies and false accusations about Islam.

I can not continue arguing with an arrogant person who freely chooses to be ignorant, willing to life and die blind and deaf no matter what you do to open his eyes or make him listen.

I wish you can study your bible and learn what it teaches you as a woman. If you really have any trust in your bible, then you must obey its orders as stated by the following passages:

Likewise, I want women to adorn themselves with proper clothing, modestly and discreetly, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly garments, [1 Timothy 2:9]

but rather by means of good works, as is proper for women making a claim to godliness. [1 Timothy 2:10]

A woman must quietly receive instruction with entire submissiveness. [1 Timothy 2:11]

But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. [1 Timothy 2:12]

For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve. [1 Timothy 2:13]

And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression. [1 Timothy 2:14]

But women will be preserved through the bearing of children if they continue in faith and love and sanctity with self-restraint. [1 Timothy 2:15]

The women are to keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as the Law also says. [1 Corinthians 14:34]

If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church. [1 Corinthians 14:35]

Look how your man-made bible looks at you women:

Examples of the hatred and prejudice against women in the man-made fabricated Bible:

[Ecclesiastes 7:25]: "I directed my mind to know, to investigate and to seek wisdom and an explanation, and to know the evil of folly and the foolishness of madness."

[Ecclesiastes 7:26]: "And I discovered more bitter than death the woman whose heart is snares and nets, whose hands are chains. One who is pleasing to God will escape from her, but the sinner will be captured by her."

[Ecclesiastes 7:27]: "Behold, I have discovered this," says the Preacher, "adding one thing to another to find an explanation,"

[Ecclesiastes 7:28]: "which I am still seeking but have not found. I have found one man among a thousand, but I have not found a woman among all these."

I really feel sorry for you and I'm gonna just ignore your posts from now on.

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@SWORD of GOD,

SWORD of GOD;34394 wrote:

It's a very shameful response. Shame on you. You give a very bad example of a christian woman who posts such filthy passages from a non-Muslim evil leader called Khumaini and then blame it on Islam!

For your information Shiaat (Khumaini people) are Pagans (not Muslims) just like you christians. They worship men and graves as you worship a man. Their man-made faith is a hybride (mixture) from all false or corrupted faiths (like judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, paganism, Magainism, etc...) and they deceive ignorant people by calling themselves muslims. They are compared with bahaism.

Islam is that original true message inspired by Allah to his last and final messenger, Muhammad (peace be upon him) which you can find it in the Quran and in the authentic hadeeths.

Next time when you want to debate Muslims, quote from either the Noble Quran or from the Authentic Hadeeths (authentic collections of the sayings and teachings of the Prophet, Muhammad (peace be upon him)).

No, Sword, Red is doing her job. She is faithfully resisting Islam, which she and I view as a lethal threat to the West. We are called to oppose it. This is our duty. Sword, I will fight the spread of Islam with everything I am and could ever be. No compromises. No surrender.

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@The Submitter,

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I really feel sorry for you and I'm gonna just ignore your posts from now on.

Welcome to the club Red.

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@SWORD of GOD,

SWORD of GOD;34394 wrote:

It's a very shameful response. Shame on you. You give a very bad example of a christian woman who posts such filthy passages from a non-Muslim evil leader called Khumaini and then blame it on Islam!

For your information Shiaat (Khumaini people) are Pagans (not Muslims) just like you christians. They worship men and graves as you worship a man. Their man-made faith is a hybride (mixture) from all false or corrupted faiths (like judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, paganism, Magainism, etc...) and they deceive ignorant people by calling themselves muslims. They are compared with bahaism.

Islam is that original true message inspired by Allah to his last and final messenger, Muhammad (peace be upon him) which you can find it in the Quran and in the authentic hadeeths.

Next time when you want to debate Muslims, quote from either the Noble Quran or from the Authentic Hadeeths (authentic collections of the sayings and teachings of the Prophet, Muhammad (peace be upon him)).

Well you were certainly well indoctorined into the Cult of Islam Sword. First of all my words aren't shameful but true. You give excuses when I show you the global face of Islam, well the world sees it for what it is Violent and backwards.

A few words of advice Sword don't marry your first cousin, England's history of madmen and desease should be reason enough not to marry someone who's DNA closly resembles your own.

I wonder if that is the reason so many Muslim men are willing to kill in the name of Allah two hundred years of marrying your kin can't be good for the gene pool. Cough cough, infact I'd say boardline intelligence at best would be the result.

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@Pinochet73,

Pinochet73;34625 wrote:

No, Sword, Red is doing her job. She is faithfully resisting Islam, which she and I view as a lethal threat to the West. We are called to oppose it. This is our duty. Sword, I will fight the spread of Islam with everything I am and could ever be. No compromises. No surrender.

This is for all of those who let hate blind their hearts: When you sit alone, ask yourself those questions:

Do you think that When you spread LIES about Islam will that make your fabricated faith right and true !!!? and will your lies make the TRUTH (Islam) false !!!?

When you inentionally spread lies and deceptions about the TRUTH (Islam) is that going to save you from the eternal Hellfire !!?

We are not here to win a battle as you seem to believe. We are here to seek the TRUTH through proofs and evidences.

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@Pinochet73,

[SIZE="3"]Scientific Comparison between Qur'an and Bible [/SIZE]

By Dr. Zakir Naika. Creation of the Universe in Six Daysb. Sun Created After the Day c. Creation of the Sun, The Earth and the Moon

According to the Bible, Book of Genesis, chapter 1, verses 9 to 13, the earth was created on the third day, and as per verses 14 to 19, the sun and the moon were created on the fourth day. The earth and the moon emanated, as we know, from their original star, the Sun. Hence to place the creation of the sun and the moon after the creation of the earth is contrary to the established idea about the formation of the solar system.

d. Vegetation Created on the third day and Sun on the fourth day e. The Sun and the Moon both Emit light f. Adam the First man on Earth, lived 5,800 years ago g. Noah and the Flood h. Moses and Pharaoh of the Exodusi.

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@The Submitter,

This is for all of those who let hate blind their hearts: When you sit alone, ask yourself those questions: If Islam is the TRUTH...

Do you think that When you spread LIES about Islam will that make your fabricated faith right and true !!!? and will your lies make the TRUTH (Islam) false !!!?

When you inentionally spread lies and deceptions about the TRUTH (Islam) is that going to save you from the eternal Hellfire !!?

We are not here to win a battle as you seem to believe. We are here to seek the TRUTH through proofs and evidences.

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@Pinochet73,

[SIZE="3"]The Shape of the Earth[/SIZE]

Today we can look at a globe and know that the earth is somewhat like a ball, a sphere. The Qur'an makes certain statements that led Muslim scientists to understand long before their European counterparts that the earth is spherical.

When Europe was in the dark ages thinking that the earth was flat, Muslim students were using globes for studying the earth in Islamic universities.

Since it was not the purpose of the Qur'an to teach science, the Qur'an did not need to state explicitly that the earth is spherical in shape (or more precisely, a geoid). But some of what the Qur'an says stimulates you to think of the world as a globe. Take, for example, the following verse: "Have you not seen how God merges the night into the day and merges the day into the night?" (Quran 31:29).

Another verse tells us that God coils the day and night around: "He coils the night upon the day and He coils the day upon the night" (Quran 39:5)."This is no less than a reminder to (all) the worlds. And you shall certainly know the truth of it (all) after a while." (Quran 38:87-88).

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@The Submitter,

LOL there are so many fallacies in your post it's funny. Islam and Science please the koran is so wrong it would take one retarded scientist an hour to debunk your propaganda Sword of Satan. Currently Islamic scholors are suicide bombers who teach how to strap a bomb on their own children. For the past sixty years Islam hasn't done squat, the Jews triple the Muslims in science and prosperity. Hello even trained Muslim doctors in Scotland couldn't get the formula right for a bomb thus setting their pathetic asses on fire. It's to bad really watching the one that died live his life out in prison with third degree burns would of been rather rewarding. Even the educated are dumber than a hedge fence and twice as dense. That's good for us, bad for them.

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@The Submitter,

If you christians trust Jesus -which I doubt you do, then you must free your hearts from hate and evil that blind them, read what Jesus (peace be upon him) in your own Bible said about those WHO would take their places at the feast in the kingdom of God:

Jesus said: "Indeed there are those who are last who will be first, and first who will be last.”(Luke 13:30)

Who are the last in reveltion!?

They are the Muslims, as Islam is the last and final revelation (message) from God.

Here are the complete passages and read what God would say to you christians ‘I don’t know you or where you come from. Away from me,' :

(Luke 13:22-30):

22 Then Jesus went through the towns and villages, teaching as he made his way to Jerusalem.
23 Someone asked him, “Lord, are only a few people going to be saved?”
He said to them, 24 “Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to. 25 Once the owner of the house gets up and closes the door, you will stand outside knocking and pleading, ‘Sir, open the door for us.’ “But he will answer, ‘I don’t know you or where you come from.’ 26 “Then you will say, ‘We ate and drank with you, and you taught in our streets.’ 27 “But he will reply, ‘I don’t know you or where you come from. Away from me, all you evildoers!’ 28 “There will be weeping there, and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but you yourselves thrown out. 29 People will come from east and west and north and south, and will take their places at the feast in the kingdom of God. 30 Indeed there are those who are last who will be first, and first who will be last.”

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@The Submitter,

[SIZE="3"]Islam is Fastest Growing Religion in United States[/SIZE]

By Jim Garamone / American Forces Press Service

DefendAMERICA

WASHINGTON, Oct. 4, 2001 -- Muslims, those who believe in Islam, are everywhere in the United States. They may be your doctor or drive your taxi. They may serve you in restaurants or advise you in law. And if you’re in the military, they increasingly may be in the same foxhole, manning the same position or working on the same aircraft as you.

Islam is the second-largest religion in the world, with more than 1.3 billion believers. In the United States, it is the fastest growing religion, a trend fueled mostly by immigration. There are 5 million to 7 million Muslims in the U.S., including between 10,000 and 20,000 members of the American military. One of them is Army Chaplain (Capt.) Abdul-Rasheed Muhammad, a Muslim Imam stationed at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington. In his chaplaincy, he ministers to all faiths.

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@SWORD of GOD,

[SIZE="3"]Science Student Found Peace and Logic in ISLAM[/SIZE]

A Fredericton university student says he turned to Islam after feeling let down by his Christian upbringing.
Fourth-year science student Steven Byers has recently joined the Muslim faith, one of the latest converts to one of the fastest growing religions in North America.

Byers says he didn't have a specific belief system five years ago when he became burdened by a series of unfortunate events beyond his control. He was raised Christian, but says the Bible couldn't help him cope.
"I would question, why would God do that to me, to my family, to my friends? It just didn't make sense to me. And then I got really angry, it was the only time I got angry about a lot of stuff."

Last spring, Byers' friends encouraged him to learn more about Islam. He says he found a belief system that perfectly matched his logical mind.
Then last summer, Byers spoke the Shahada -- the testimony of faith, saying Allah is the only God, and Mohammed is the last Prophet of Islam.

[SIZE="2"]Watch Byers telling his own story in this CBS TV report[/SIZE] YouTube - Science student find peace and Logic in ISLAM

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@The Submitter,

A pityful Christian blaming God for his problems so he converts to Islam, well frankly sword Muslim are always on the news bleating about being more deserving and riot when they hear the word no. God forbid Muslims hold themself accountable for their actions, like burning down entire city blocks over a cartoon. So I'd say this cry baby is a natural Muslim, enjoy him we've lost another leftard to the dark side. I call that justiceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

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