@Doly,
Doly;10113 wrote:And what is Bush's plan? To win in Iraq? Hahahahahahaha
You can't win a war unless you are as mean as the enemy and we aren't mean enough. We fight political wars - we don't fight to win. And until we learn this lesson we shouldn't be sending our children to the battlefield to be killed in wars that we have no hope of winning.
Most of the Middle Eastern countries don't fight their own wars anymore. Their governments pay terrorist groups to fight the wars for them. These terrorists are what we used to call "mercenaries". They like the job because they like to kill, they get paid for it and they are treated like heroes by the more moderate Muslims that don't want to fight and die.
Bush never should have started the war in Iraq. He has destabilized the region and made things worse than they were. Saddam was a bad guy and I hated him just like everyone else, but at least he was keeping Iran in check and kept Iraq from falling into civil war. His tactics for controlling the people in his country were brutal and corrupt, but they worked. Our tactics have not worked and probably never will.
The U.S. needs to quit jumping into situations like we did in Iraq before we completely understand the situation and the mission. Bush didn't understand either one.
I saw Bush on tv tonight talking about reactions to his remark "I'm the decision maker in Iraq" and he was smirking about a remark a politician made saying something about Bush not being the only decision maker as regards Iraq". And with the smirk still on his face, Bush said "Well, they do have some input. They decide whether to fund or how much to fund the war. And I would hope they would support the soldiers on the ground over there. What an arrogant, pompous windbag he is. Everytime I hear him talk, I want to throw up. I wish I could be around to hear what the historians have to say about him fifty years from now. I don't think they will be kind to him.
Quote:And what is Bush's plan? To win in Iraq? Hahahahahahaha
So what is your plan?
Quote:You can't win a war unless you are as mean as the enemy and we aren't mean enough.
No, you can't win a war when the people that were all for it at the first start, lost there spine half way though the engagement.
Quote:We fight political wars - we don't fight to win.
You fight political wars, the military always fights to win, or untill they are defunded.
Quote:And until we learn this lesson we shouldn't be sending our children to the battlefield to be killed in wars that we have no hope of winning.
You have no hope. Ask a soldier if they have hope, i haven't heard one yet that didn't. My wife works for the National Guard, i have asked plenty of them.
Quote:Most of the Middle Eastern countries don't fight their own wars anymore. Their governments pay terrorist groups to fight the wars for them. These terrorists are what we used to call "mercenaries". They like the job because they like to kill, they get paid for it and they are treated like heroes by the more moderate Muslims that don't want to fight and die.
Since when do mercenaries behead people or blow themselves up? I think they would be a little harder to convince they weren't getting paid in cash but in women after they were deceased. Na, your theory doesn't hold water.
Quote:Bush never should have started the war in Iraq.
Bush didn't start it, Saddam did by not holding true to his previous cease fire agreement. Remember all those UN resolutions? 18 if i'm correct, forget about those?
Quote:He has destabilized the region and made things worse than they were. Saddam was a bad guy and I hated him just like everyone else, but at least he was keeping Iran in check and kept Iraq from falling into civil war. His tactics for controlling the people in his country were brutal and corrupt, but they worked. Our tactics have not worked and probably never will.
So your OK with saddam killing his own people and iranians to keep them "in check" on the premise that it worked? So the way Hitler keep the jews and the surrounding countrys in check was okie dokey too?
Quote:The U.S. needs to quit jumping into situations like we did in Iraq before we completely understand the situation and the mission. Bush didn't understand either one.
We didn't jump into this one it's been going since Bush 41 and saddam invading Kuwait. Sounds like you might need to brush up on your history a little. This mission was to depose a dictator and form a democratic government. Which was sucessfull in a very short time as far as forming governments go.
Quote:I saw Bush on tv tonight talking about reactions to his remark "I'm the decision maker in Iraq" and he was smirking about a remark a politician made saying something about Bush not being the only decision maker as regards Iraq". And with the smirk still on his face, Bush said "Well, they do have some input.
Is there something wrong with smirking?
Quote:They decide whether to fund or how much to fund the war. And I would hope they would support the soldiers on the ground over there.
So tell me, do you think defunding the war supports our troops? If not for the troops would the politicians even have a job? Mush less fund taxpayer moneys. I think not.
Quote:What an arrogant, pompous windbag he is. Everytime I hear him talk, I want to throw up. I wish I could be around to hear what the historians have to say about him fifty years from now. I don't think they will be kind to him.
That's your opinion and your intitled to it. Another perk from the same troops. I guess you should hope you'll never have to defend that right with physical force. It's nice to have a proxy do it for you huh?
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