Democrats...more of the same!

@Dmizer,

3)You cannot punish the rich! Watching liberals in the media and Democrats rave about how they are going to punish the rich makes me laugh. Economically, it’s an impossibility. The rich pay economic advisors to tell them how to avoid paying high taxes. When they don’t pay, you do. Whenever Democrats talk about soaking the rich, hang on to your wallet! It means higher prices, economic slow downs and layoffs. Raise taxes on the rich, and eventually, the economy slows down and we lose jobs. Raise corporate taxes and the corporations pass higher prices onto the consumer. Artificially force prices down and you get shortages (look at Zimbabwe). During the late 1970’s and early 1980’s under Carter, Democrats tried to soak the rich. The result was economic slow down, AKA a recession. It makes more sense to have the rich work with you. If you want to soak the rich, cut taxes. When you do, the rich spend more and invest more. Then more jobs become available, generating more tax revenues. Bush did that and tax revenues have been at an all time high. Tax income is not a problem in this economy now, spending is the problem.
4)You can’t get blood out of a stone. Or more to the point, you cannot get $7.25 in productivity from a $5 minimum wage worker. Democrats are raising the minimum wage. They think small businesses will just go ahead and pay more. Small businesses are painfully aware of that situation. When you raise the minimum wage, if you cannot get the increased level of productivity from the worker, then either prices must go up or the number of jobs go down. Most small businesses that cannot afford to raise prices to much end up cutting jobs.
5)Free money form the government is soon spent. Democrats hope to provide more money for college students and universal health care. But they forget one thing. When you make more taxpayer money available for institutions, the institutions will simply expect more money. In fact, they line up for it. The result: Making colleges more affordable will drive up tuitions, simply because the money is available. Universal health care costs will spiral higher because patients can now afford it, at least as long as the taxpayers are paying for it. Supply and Demand Economics 101: If you increase the demand for something without increasing the supply, more dollars compete for the commodity. That in turn drives prices up. If you increase the demand for prescriptions, as prescription programs do; if you increase the demand for college education as the Democrats college loan program will do; if you increase the load on the health care system as universal healthcare will do, all of those prices will go up. Which leads to the last economic truth
6)When costs go up, they don’t go back down. You know that story already! It’s an economic lesson that we Americans have to re-learn every decade. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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@Dmizer,

Damn nice Big D. Props!

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@Dmizer,

Democrats will tell whatever lie is necessary to get into power, knowing that once they're in, they'll blow it fast and get voted out with massive globs of scandal dangling from their slimey arses. What will the Clinton Mafia steal this time, when they flee the White House, the scene of eight years' worth of criminal activity? Screw'm.

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@Dmizer,

That's why there is a distinctive and fundamental difference between Republicans and Democrats...while Republicans preach less "big government", they talk out both sides of their face, as they scurry to do business with ever increasing numbers of lobbyists, who cajole and cavort with them...treating them to golf junkets in Scotland, playcations in the Caribbean, and donating funds to their pet projects, all to get legislation slanted in their favor...
When P.J. O'Rourke wrote, Parliament of Whores, he wasn't far off the mark.

"House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Democrats started out in the House with a 100 hour agenda of items to pass: raise the minimum wage, make college affordable and universal health care. Happy days are here again! They went in first changing House rules so that they could rush these items through passage by banning Republicans from debating, offering counter proposals, or offering amendments on any of the bills. Oh yes and I almost forgot, they are going to make the rich pay their fair share, sounds great doesn’t it?"

Well, the truth of the matter is, since the Democrats only have a 1 vote majority over the Repubs, it's clear that the said Repubs can and have been obstructionist to any proposals the Democrats seek to enact...hence, the "real" reason, nothing is getting done in Washington...oh, but just wait and watch, as the Repubs go down in flames, come 2008...and they'll try to blame everyone but themselves, because responsibility is such a foreign word to them. What matters is money and power and lifestyles of the "rich, famous, and powerful"...not any such stuff as universal healthcare, and quality affordable education for the masses...or infrastructure of the inner cities, or minimum wage....ah, but Congress can vote itself pay increases with no shame.

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@Dmizer,

I've always found it curious that the same people that whine and cry about having to pay to take care of fellow Americans are in love with the idea of rebuilding foreign countries, and making sure their people are getting medical attention, safety and infrastructure. Can you imagine the strength this nation would have if it took care of itself? We would actually be a world leader instead of just trying to keep our heads above water.

There is something seriously wrong with a country having the very best medical facilities money, science and technology can buy, and yet having the worst health care for it its citizens next to third world nations. There is something seriously wrong when securing Iraqs borders are more important to it's politicians than securing it's own borders.

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@92b16vx,

92b16vx;27946 wrote:

I've always found it curious that the same people that whine and cry about having to pay to take care of fellow Americans are in love with the idea of rebuilding foreign countries, and making sure their people are getting medical attention, safety and infrastructure. Can you imagine the strength this nation would have if it took care of itself? We would actually be a world leader instead of just trying to keep our heads above water.

There is something seriously wrong with a country having the very best medical facilities money, science and technology can buy, and yet having the worst health care for it its citizens next to third world nations. There is something seriously wrong when securing Iraqs borders are more important to it's politicians than securing it's own borders.

Tell the truth and shame the devil! Thank you....of course, someone will be quick to say you're unpatriotic, for not fighting the valiant war in Iraq!!!
After all we must give these heathens democracy, whether they want it or not....( might be the oil, though!....folks are inclined to believe whatever comes out of the mouth of Bushie and Dickey, to the contrary.

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@Dmizer,

I did fight in Iraq, which is funny, not unpatriotic, but hypocrite.

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@92b16vx,

92b16vx;27949 wrote:

I did fight in Iraq, which is funny, not unpatriotic, but hypocrite.

Interesting....So, you being a veteran, and whom we should be thanking for service to our country....do you think the war is just? Do you think your comrades died in vain? Do you think your service was worth the effort?

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@aaronssongs,

aaronssongs;27950 wrote:

Interesting....So, you being a veteran, and whom we should be thanking for service to our country....do you think the war is just? Do you think your comrades died in vain? Do you think your service was worth the effort?

I don't think any soldier doing his duty died in vain, unjust or not. My service is what it is, my duty to the country I love and that affords me the life I have. I do think this whole war on terror has been mismanaged from the start. We had a chance to do some real good, and either by intention, or just being how it goes, we got bogged down in a country we should not have invaded in the first place. Our foreign policy sucks, and it has since we decided to side with the british in the 50s and overthrow Mossadeq and install the western friendly dictator Shah so they could control the oil, and we could keep close communist Russia.

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@aaronssongs,

aaronssongs;27939 wrote:

You must not like it when your forced to wear the shoe on the other foot. Obstruction works both way, did you complain when the dems were doing it?

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@Drnaline,

Drnaline;27959 wrote:

You must not like it when your forced to wear the shoe on the other foot. Obstruction works both way, did you complain when the dems were doing it?

Still having problems with words ( the form is "you're). "forced to wear the shoe...."???? What are you trying to say?
The Dems haven't been obstructionists since Bush Sr. left office, because they haven't been in the majority. You can't call the Dems obstructionist under Clinton, because the Repubs were in the majority since him, and under Bush Jr., controlled both houses of Congress....so if something didn't get done, the blame mostly lies with the Repub Congress...Now, that there is a one vote majority held by the Dems, when you need 60 votes to get anything done, you want to blame the Dems......you need to stop drinking "kool aid"

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@aaronssongs,

aaronssongs;27966 wrote:

Still having problems with words ( the form is "you're). "forced to wear the shoe...."???? What are you trying to say?
The Dems haven't been obstructionists since Bush Sr. left office, because they haven't been in the majority. You can't call the Dems obstructionist under Clinton, because the Repubs were in the majority since him, and under Bush Jr., controlled both houses of Congress....so if something didn't get done, the blame mostly lies with the Repub Congress...Now, that there is a one vote majority held by the Dems, when you need 60 votes to get anything done, you want to blame the Dems......you need to stop drinking "kool aid"

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Still having problems with words ( the form is "you're). "forced to wear the shoe...."???? What are you trying to say?

Playing spellchecker police? If you would like to pay me to use spellcheck, i will.

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The Dems haven't been obstructionists since Bush Sr. left office, because they haven't been in the majority.

Try an use a little logic. It's the minority that obstructs the majority. Much like what you claim the repugs are doing right now, they are the minority. Comprehend that?

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You can't call the Dems obstructionist under Clinton, because the Repubs were in the majority since him, and under Bush Jr., controlled both houses of Congress....

See above.

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so if something didn't get done, the blame mostly lies with the Repub Congress

democrat obstruction - Google Search

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Now, that there is a one vote majority held by the Dems, when you need 60 votes to get anything done, you want to blame the Dems......

Fuckin A. What have they accomplished since they took over? Not much in there promised 100 hours, not in 100 days, not in 200. What they gave to you is a load of crap and swallow it you did. Talk about bush being a lame duck, LOL What's congress's approval rating these days?

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you need to stop drinking "kool aid"

Not till you take of the tinfoil hat.

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@Drnaline,

Drnaline;27970 wrote:

Playing spellchecker police? If you would like to pay me to use spellcheck, i will.
Doesn't bother me, but it makes you seem rather pedestrian.
Try an use a little logic. It's the minority that obstructs the majority. Much like what you claim the repugs are doing right now, they are the minority. Comprehend that?
One can tell that you unable to comprehend my assertion...big whoop.
See above.democrat obstruction - Google Search
That's weak....what would we get by googling Republican obstruction?
Fuckin A. What have they accomplished since they took over? Not much in there promised 100 hours, not in 100 days, not in 200. What they gave to you is a load of crap and swallow it you did.
Nobody gave me anything. I, unlike you, have a brain, with which I can reason. It's the Republicans in the minority that are being obstructionists....several Republicans have come over to the Democratic side (Hagel, Spector, and Snow, to name a few)...and it's just a matter of time before there are more defections, and then, things will get done.

You're the one that seems inclined to "swallow" stuff...but you're rhetoric reinforces my "esteemed" opinion of you....I really could care less.

Talk about bush being a lame duck, LOL
A lame duck is not all that he is....it's just a matter of substituting a consonant or two. LOL.

What's congress's approval rating these days?Not till you take of the tinfoil hat.

Ooooh, you're so funny, I almost laughed.

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@Dmizer,

Drnaline,
You know, you don't always have to respond to my postings...I'd really be interested in "another's " POV, to tell you the truth.

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@Dmizer,

I respond to what i wish. It's the American way. Some don't like what i have to say but i'm not asking. You on the other hand are able to not respond as well but i will say as i wish.

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I'd really be interested in "another's " POV, to tell you the truth.

I'm sure it they felt inclined they would? I how ever an so inclinded and that explains why i comment. Can i help you with anything else?

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@Dmizer,

The Republicans and US Army should enter into a sacred pact, and incarcerate Democrats in hard-labor work camps in northern Alaska. No lawyers, prisoner lawsuits, and damned few human rights. Nothing but deep, freezing cold mineshafts to be worked with hand-held hammer and chisel, around the clock.

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@Pinochet73,

Pinochet73;27990 wrote:

The Republicans and US Army should enter into a sacred pact, and incarcerate Democrats in hard-labor work camps in northern Alaska. No lawyers, prisoner lawsuits, and damned few human rights. Nothing but deep, freezing cold mineshafts to be worked with hand-held hammer and chisel, around the clock.

Except that anyone that took their Oath fo Enlistment seriously would not commit such a violation of the Constitution. Sorry, the military isn't the repubicans play toy, and even though BushCo seems to think so, it is more than likely going to cost the Republicrats that White House.

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@Dmizer,

Aaronssongs,
"You know, you don't always have to respond to my postings...I'd really be interested in "another's " POV, to tell you the truth.

There really is no difference between how the Democrats go about doing business and the way the Republicans do it. They are all in the same boat called Congress, and it is business as usual.
The main problem I have with the Democrats is they are trying to force Socialism down our throats as being a good thing. If you like socialism then move to France or Canada, it seems to suit them just fine. It's not about protecting the rich, They protect themselves, it's about protecting the average joe from crushing tax burdens. The Democrats plans would decrease the quality of life for the middle class. Universal health care would not increase the quality of care in the US, it would decrease it.
Wisconsin is trying out a test program of universal health care for their state. It is a disaster, economically speaking. It is literally costing hundreds of dollars more per month for each tax payer. Can you afford to pay an extra 200 to 300 dollars a month for some one elses care. I'm not making this up, it's on the Wisconsin Gov stats pages. The quality of care is in the toilet because hospitals are over loaded, and doctors are having trouble making Mal-practice payments because the "universal health care only pays so much" so for those with better insurance have to pay much more. Costs for everyone involved go way up.
Look, it would be such a rosie, happy picture if we all could afford to go to college and we all could have equal, quality health care not to mention a stable Social Security system. But the fact is the American public, when they find out how much it is going to cost, will never support it. It is not the American way. The American revolution was ispired in part by taxes that were too high (I know, no taxation without representation...etc). Once you start raising taxes there is no going back. Slippery slope and all that jazz....

If you want to pay a 45% or higher tax rate then move to A socialist nation. I'm not interested.

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@Pinochet73,

Pinochet73;27990 wrote:

The Republicans and US Army should enter into a sacred pact, and incarcerate Democrats in hard-labor work camps in northern Alaska. No lawyers, prisoner lawsuits, and damned few human rights. Nothing but deep, freezing cold mineshafts to be worked with hand-held hammer and chisel, around the clock.

That would be a totalitarian state sponsored act. Thank God, we live in a democracy where the rule of law, though threatened, still exists.
Alaska! That would be a wonderful refuge for all Republicans...they could keep all their wealth in deep freeze...ski year round. Enjoy the cool breezes in sync with their cold hearts...have lots and lots of oil to bathe in (I'm sure there is some remnants of the oil from the tanker, the Exxon Valdez)...why don't you round up the rest of the people who think like you do, and go there? And send us a postcard, from time to time.

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