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What made you question politics to become a Libertarian?

 
 
TheDPQ
 
Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2006 09:13 pm
Woo, first post.

While it took me a while to find out about Libertarianism and switch to that party, i do have a defining 'what the hell is wrong with the system' moment that made me break out of the two party system.

Its stupid but... it was when they make it illegal to eat horses when i was in highschool. There was a vote going in my state and my teacher made us mock-vote on it as well. It went along the lines of 'i don't want to horse, and horses are cute... so sure lets ban it.

I didn't think in terms of 'ownership' and 'big govt' or 'property rights'... all i knew is that i couldn't understand why there needed to be a law about something that hurt no one and only difference between a cow and horse is that ones cuter. (Although cows probably taste better ^^)

Anyways it made me question the system, as silly as that is, and made me more open to Libertarianism when i did learn about it. I'm against the gov't forcing people what they can do with their property or on their property.

Very Happy I'm not a political person by nature but it just makes sense that things would be better with a smaller gov't. I don't understand these 'small gov't' republicans that vote on all these big gov't laws.
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Curmudgeon
 
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Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2006 11:09 pm
@TheDPQ,
Welcome to Conflicting Views !

Even "small" government is huge !

In political circles , just as in business , size is relative . For example , once when I was in business , I needed a loan , so I tried for a Small Business loan at the bank and through a government loan program . I was told my small business would have to be about 10 times bigger than it already was in order to qualify for a " Small Business " loan ! I had no way to get that big to get a small loan !
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Brent cv
 
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Reply Thu 2 Nov, 2006 11:10 pm
@TheDPQ,
As much as I would love to back the Libertarians on their core belief I just have not seen the Libertarians stand up to take on real issues.

Alabama has a Libertarian running for Governor and she doesn't have a shot. She doesn't stand for what the Libertarians stand for she stands against what the two major parties are for. She has pretty much ruined any chance she may have had with the way she has acted basically being childish and unprofessional. She does not reflect the views of Alabamians so how does she expect to seriously contest?

I like some libertarians but it doesn't matter if they are right if they can't get a solid footing and solid candidates that stand together.
TheDPQ
 
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Reply Fri 3 Nov, 2006 01:55 am
@Brent cv,
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Even "small" government is huge !

I haven't reached the point yet where i want to have a complete 'free-market'. I know any gov't, small or otherwise, is just going to keep growing but i'm finding it reallly hard to let go of the roads or schools. As bad as i think the school system is today, i think it was working fine before it went all badshit crazy with regulations and dumbing down the kids. It seems like if the gov't was more accountable for where they spent their money we wouldn't have nearly as many problems.

Then the other side of me screams 'wtf!! Your taking people's money to pay for that!! What's wrong with you' argh.

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Alabama has a Libertarian running for Governor and she doesn't have a shot. She doesn't stand for what the Libertarians stand for she stands against what the two major parties are for. She has pretty much ruined any chance she may have had with the way she has acted basically being childish and unprofessional. She does not reflect the views of Alabamians so how does she expect to seriously contest?

Oddly enough i have heard of Loretta Nall. She is a write-in canidate right? I started listening to a Libertarian podcast and they mentioned her once or twice. I heard her campaign was a little weird but it got her press coverage and being a 3rd party is hard enough. It should be interesting to see what support she gets although from what i understand even she is pretty sure she won't win.
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Brent cv
 
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Reply Fri 3 Nov, 2006 02:01 am
@TheDPQ,
Yea she is a write in. Here is info on what caused her "exposure" Loretta Nall for Governor: MSNBC Coverage of Nall Campaign

I actually agree with her stance on Marijuana but disagree with her stance on the Iraq War and what needs to happen. I would like to see a 3rd party rise up and give challenge like Ross Perot did in the 90's but I want serious candidates.
oleo
 
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Reply Fri 3 Nov, 2006 05:19 pm
@Brent cv,
The problem with being a true Libertarian is that you'd naturally have to
oppose your own party, eventually.

Electing a politician to downsize government is like hiring a prostitute to
promote celibacy.

I'm a green libertarian democrat, though drnaline would add socialist to the
end of that for me.


by the way, there is a difference in the sentience/intelligence level of
horses and cows. I couldn't imagine eating a horse... if you've been around
them they are noble and loyal creatures. Then again, the french eat them, and the Chinese eat St. Bernards... really, they do... they can't afford to graze cattle in some regions, so they raise St. Bernards for meat, which pisses
off the Swiss, but then again I don't think the Indians are too into our habit
of dining on cows, so it's all relative.
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