@tumbleweed cv,
I know. A recently-former marine that I know said last night "we really can't
just pull out, and I don't think we really will just yet, but the difference is
that the American people will be in on the discussion and the decision this
time, and that will make it easier for the country to unify behind what has
to happen, even if it is 20 years of hardship. Deciding the right thing to do is
different from being made to do something, especially when it requires a
sacrifice."