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The Real Obama: Part III

 
 
Reply Thu 9 Oct, 2008 08:52 pm
Thomas Sowell :: Townhall.com :: The Real Obama: Part III

What about those "real issues" that Barack Obama's supporters in the media say we should get back to, whenever some new unsavory fact about his past comes out?

Surely education is a real issue, with American school children consistently scoring below those in other countries, and children in minority communities faring worst of all.

What about Senator Obama's position on this real issue? As with other issues, he has talked one way and acted the opposite way.

The education situation in Obama's home base of Chicago is one of the worst in the nation for the children-- and one of the best for the unionized teachers.

Fewer than one-third of Chicago's high-school juniors meet the statewide standards on tests. Only 6 percent of the youngsters who enter Chicago high schools become college graduates by the time they are 25 years old.

The problem is not money: Chicago spends more than $10,000 per student.

Chicago teachers are doing well. A beginning teacher, fresh out of college, earns more than the city's median income and that can rise to more than $100,000 over the years.

That's for teaching 6 hours a day, 9 months of the year. Moreover, a teacher's income is dependent on seniority and other such factors-- and in no way dependent on whether their students are actually learning anything.

Obama has said eloquent and lofty words about education, as he has about other things-- for example, how it is "unacceptable in a country as wealthy as ours" that some children "are not getting a decent shot at life" because of the failing schools.

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Sabz5150
 
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Reply Thu 9 Oct, 2008 09:18 pm
@Drnaline,
Standardized tests are no way to measure a child's education. That's why most institutions are backing away from them. This includes the SAT, the POS that it is.

You wanna know what gets in the way of a child's education? "No Child Left Behind". This is the single biggest complaint I hear from teachers today. W's grand education scheme gets in the way of actually educating the children, instead of actually helping them out.

Again, Townhall? I'd expect a biased blog to point the blame at Obama somehow.
Drnaline
 
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Reply Thu 9 Oct, 2008 09:27 pm
@Sabz5150,
Sabz5150;60938 wrote:
Standardized tests are no way to measure a child's education. That's why most institutions are backing away from them. This includes the SAT, the POS that it is.

You wanna know what gets in the way of a child's education? "No Child Left Behind". This is the single biggest complaint I hear from teachers today. W's grand education scheme gets in the way of actually educating the children, instead of actually helping them out.

Again, Townhall? I'd expect a biased blog to point the blame at Obama somehow.
Don't you mean conservative blog. Your slacking.
Sabz5150
 
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Reply Thu 9 Oct, 2008 09:37 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;60940 wrote:
Don't you mean conservative blog. Your slacking.


What's the difference? It's bias, and the article itself shows that rather clearly.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Thu 9 Oct, 2008 09:43 pm
@Drnaline,
It's biased like every thing else.
Sabz5150
 
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Reply Thu 9 Oct, 2008 09:45 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;60950 wrote:
It's biased like every thing else.


So you just admitted that your sources are biased? Why, thank you for wrapping this up in such a quick and neat fashion.

But remember, facts themselves are not biased.
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socalgolfguy
 
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Reply Sun 12 Oct, 2008 04:10 am
@Drnaline,
Facts, sabz, are only true to you if you accept them. As an illustration, you can ask 5 witness to any event to describe what happened and surely you will get 5 differing answers.
Whatever cv
 
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Reply Sun 12 Oct, 2008 09:32 am
@socalgolfguy,
Barack Obama on EducationIt's okay to print the truth....now let's look at that, shall we, and leave the lies and deceptions to the McCain/Palin ticket...who have yet to offer much at all in the way of solutions to these problems McCain has been part of for 30 years.
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Sabz5150
 
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Reply Thu 16 Oct, 2008 01:29 am
@socalgolfguy,
socalgolfguy;61075 wrote:
Facts, sabz, are only true to you if you accept them. As an illustration, you can ask 5 witness to any event to describe what happened and surely you will get 5 differing answers.


Facts are true regardless of one's desire to accept.
socalgolfguy
 
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Reply Thu 16 Oct, 2008 01:51 am
@Sabz5150,
Sabz5150;61439 wrote:
Facts are true regardless of one's desire to accept.


Agreed. But if one's desire is not to accept, then the truth matters not to them. No where is that truth more evident than in politics.
Musky Hunter
 
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Reply Thu 16 Oct, 2008 10:17 am
@socalgolfguy,
socalgolfguy;61440 wrote:
Agreed. But if one's desire is not to accept, then the truth matters not to them. No where is that truth more evident than in politics.



There is truth in politics?:confused:
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Sabz5150
 
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Reply Fri 17 Oct, 2008 05:33 am
@socalgolfguy,
socalgolfguy;61440 wrote:
Agreed. But if one's desire is not to accept, then the truth matters not to them. No where is that truth more evident than in politics.


Religion? Explains why they like each other.
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