Is Homosexuality a Choice?

I tend to think that there might be a gene that controls sexual stimulation that didn't develop just right. Gay people don't react to the same sexual stimulation as a heterosexual does. Just my theory.:confused:

First of all...as for the topic...homosexuality is a mind set...a choice...a lifestyle decision. The only genetic link involved is whether you have 1 or 2 X chromosomes...that way you can tell what sex matches yours and which one is opposite.



I would have to say that sexual stimulation is not genetic...but more a mental mind set. If I am with a female I think is repulsive, I won't be able to get it up...and if I do...won't be able to keep it up. The same holds true for gays. If they don't find the opposite sex to be attractive/mentally stimulating...therefore they will not acheive the sensation of arousal. However, if you are say a gay male and do see the female form as a beautiful creation, there is a good chance you will be able to acheive arousal since it is not repulsive to you. Once you get past the mental stage of arousal, the physical stage is the same no matter what orientation you are. You have erogenous zones...that when they receive attention heighten your state of arousal until you reach your plateau.

The same holds true when you are having sex with your partner...if you don't want to go off...you think of something that is not arousing...baseball, turtles, etc...that brings your state of arousal down...and prevents you from climaxing.

The point is...arousal is not DNA based...it is largely a state of mind...combined with some physical stimulation of your erogenous zones. In fact, it is not even completely required to have phyisical stimulation in order to reach a very high level of arousal...it can be acheived simply by thoughts...and thoughts are in no way genetic.

Well let's take a minute and look at what we are talking about.

We are asking whether or not a sexual preference is in fact controlled by choices that we make.

If that were true then heterosexuality was a choice and the fact of the matter is that it is suppose to be natural, which therefore contradicts it being a choice.

So is homosexuality a choice?

If it was, then it would contradict heterosexuality.

You have to understand that both heterosexuality, bisexuality, and homosexuality are all sexual preferences. And all sexual preferences are equally a part of humanity, naturally or unnaturally. So it shouldn't be too hard to understand that all sexual preferences have the same factor that involves humanity, whether it be by choice or not.

And the fact of the matter is that they are not involved by choices that "we" make.

It all has to do with psychology and genetic inheritance.

In case anyone didn't know, evolution works evenly on the matter of a species survival. Sort of like if in the future an AI examines mistakes in it's design to carry out it's purpose and designs corrections in an updated model. Or in scientific studies, to adapt to changes in the environment and to it's interaction with prey and predators. Evolution is every occuring, because the planet is ever changing. Continents drift, seasons change, terrain changes, meteors strike the Earth, creatures migrate, and all these events help control evolution.

Now homosexuality does have some species benefits. Particularly to the structure and socialness of the creatures in a complex society, like our own. But... however this could only pertain to a surplus in the production of a certain factor in the species, whether it be male or female. Take the Japanese Samurai in which male homosexuality was very common. This was because there were no female Samurai and to create a very functional team of individuals that have count on each other for survival, much like the relationship between two spouces, homosexuality was encouraged or atleast close socializing that lead to homosexuality.

It shouldn't be frown upon, because this is very natural and something that can occur between anyone as a factor that is influenced by society.

And from that we can understand that homosexuality comes about due to psychological factors that are promoted or stired thanks to society.

But there are genetic factors that can cause homosexuality to come about much easierly with psychological factors.

It's sort of like adding in a drug that heightens the effect of another drug and that is the genetic part that involves homosexuality.

Well let's take a minute and look at what we are talking about.

We are asking whether or not a sexual preference is in fact controlled by choices that we make.

If that were true then heterosexuality was a choice and the fact of the matter is that it is suppose to be natural, which therefore contradicts it being a choice.

So is homosexuality a choice?

If it was, then it would contradict heterosexuality.

You have to understand that both heterosexuality, bisexuality, and homosexuality are all sexual preferences. And all sexual preferences are equally a part of humanity, naturally or unnaturally. So it shouldn't be too hard to understand that all sexual preferences have the same factor that involves humanity, whether it be by choice or not.

And the fact of the matter is that they are not involved by choices that "we" make.

It all has to do with psychology and genetic inheritance.

In case anyone didn't know, evolution works evenly on the matter of a species survival.

Now homosexuality does have some species benefits.

It shouldn't be frown upon, because this is very natural and something that can occur between anyone as a factor that is influenced by society.

And from that we can understand that homosexuality comes about due to psychological factors that are promoted or stired thanks to society.

But there are genetic factors that can cause homosexuality to come about much easierly with psychological factors.

It's sort of like adding in a drug that heightens the effect of another drug and that is the genetic part that involves homosexuality.

I think your confused a little.

I chose to make a female my wife.

A person i can procreat with.

Together we produce fruit of which this world need to sustain our beings.

As with the rest of the wild kindom/nature they to chose to be male and female. That is natural.

To chose a partner who you cannot procreat with(same sex) is abnormal.

As your family unit will only last the one generation.

Hence your family is now extincte. If you chose the later, by natures rules you have made the wrong choice.

NO contridiction, hetero is prodominate on this world.

They are preference's by the subject who makes the final choice, which is what we are talking about right?

"And all sexual preferences are equally a part of humanity, naturally or unnaturally."

Not equal, some behaviors are self defeating, or using your wording "unnatural"

'whether it be by choice or not. "
Sounds to me you think it is personal choice as well?

"It all has to do with psychology and genetic inheritance."
How can it be genetic when after making the wrong choice there is no way of passing on that gene? I agree totally with yhe psychological part.

No it doen't. It excludes some that make the wrong choice.

Yes it does. It is the reason the person is here to be allowed to make a choice in the first place. Without it there is no one to do so.

Got proof? Nature indended man to be with women. That is normal/natural. To do other then is abnormal/unnatural.

I don't understand that at all. Your saying society forces them to become gay? I think it's the opposite.

What are those factors your talking about?

No I'm not, stop whining just because I said something you can't understand.





Choosing to make someone your wife does not have a direct effect with sexuality. Marriage is a union and you didn't choose your wife, you followed along with what society has brought you into. Perhaps it would be for the best if you study was the subconscious part of the brain is all about? Then you can understand that it was your interaction with society that made you want to marry a woman, but because of your own interests you have decided to marry "THAT" woman. You need to understand what an individual is and about the individual you are married to is more than just a woman.




Oh so you married her, so you can practice sexual intercourse with her.

That means her existence has no meaning to you, because she could have easily been replaced by another woman. All you have proven is how sexist you truely are.




Um I don't want to burst your bubble. But that's a belief and the thing about beliefs is that they are just beliefs.

Yes you needed to marry to have a legal union, in which you can practice sexual intercourse without being effected negatively by society.

You needed to reproduce to complete your existence as a human being.

But since when did you need to marry any woman to finish such a purpose in life? That is what you fail to understand. A woman is more than just a woman, she is an individual, with her own ideas and philosophy that should be respected upon. And marriage it's self isn't intended for reproduction, it has a much more abstract core in which reproduction becomes a part of.

If you have just married her so you can reproduce, then you could easily just get by with cloning. There is more to a marriage than to reproduce with someone.



Not all creatures in the animal kingdom are male and female.

Allow me to introduce you to the world of hermaphrodites.

Hermaphroditism
Hermaphrodite - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hamlet (fish) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Sex and the Single Hermaphrodite - - science news articles online technology magazine articles Sex and the Single Hermaphrodite
Snail - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




If it was abnormal then it wouldn't result from psychology and it does.

Homosexuality is very normal, just not truely natural in terms to a species that is almost entirely either male or female.

However, in some species of animals and in almost all plants, to procreat with the same sex is very common. Especially with snails.




True true, still I don't understand what you are talking about. So what if your family will last only one generation. What is so significant about?

And furthermore... considering that entire families can be wiped our from natural and unnatural disasters. How important really is it to even have a family just for reproductive reasons.



What wrong choice? If your family was stationed in New Orleans prior to the Katrina event, your entire family is probably going to be extinct anyways. So does it really matter?



Actually it isn't. Well maybe in your fantasy world it is. Hetero is latin for different, it's like saying the word "different" is prodominate on this world. Of course differences do prodominate this world thanks to evolution and such, but that isn't what you were talking about. You were talking about heterosexuality being prodominate. And the truth is it isn't. Heterosexuality is an evolution from aesexuality and hermaphroticism. And even right now you have some species that are trying to revert back to aesexuality and hermaphroticism.



No one makes the choice for their sexuality. You deciding to marry a woman came about do to society making you heterosexual or better yet, stabalizing your heterosexuality. If you were a Japanese Samurai, instead of whatever you are right now, you would have probably become a homosexual. And that's because of society.



Self defeating is not the same as unnatural. Unnatural is a typical meaning refering to artificial influence or creation. Again stop it with the senselessness. You are making no sense at all!




No... I was trying to break the ice to you, so that you could understand that if heterosexuality was natural and thus couldn't be from a choice then so the same can be said about homosexuality.

I was trying to defeat the "choice" ideology that was just intended to be use to make an excuse in harming people that were different.



That's because no one made the wrong choice. There is no choice in the whole bit. Because society influences the choices we make, which therefore isn't an act of your own true free will.

And maybe if you were smart enough to finish reading someone's post, instead of protecting your own ego and proving your own lack of intellect, then perhaps no one would have to make fun of you.




What wrong choice? Life isn't all about sexual intercourse, ya know. Almost everyone who is homosexuality would rather be heterosexual, so they wouldn't have to be discriminated. But they can't help but be who they are. They didn't make the choice of liking this or that. That whole choice bit was influenced into them as a child. They didn't make a child, yet rather society made the choice for them.



"Without being allowed to make a choice there is no one to do so?"

So let me get this straight. You say that without someone being allowed to make a choice that therefore there is no choice on the matter at all?

Bravo, you are finally getting it. Even though your ideology is backwards, base on the insecurity and lack of accepting differences that contradict the ideology you were raised to believe was true.

Because choicing a mate and choicing a wife is not the same thing. You can choice a mate without choicing a wife. And likewise you can choice a wife, but never decide to mate with her.



Homophobe, nature did not intended man to be with woman. Society intended man to be with woman. Nature intended man and woman to co-exist, not simply in terms of mating. The need to mate is what is brought up as one matures. And this all has to do with psychology, not choices.



That's because you were raised to be a homophobe and you lack fortitude to accept truth. You ideas are backwards and you will say anything to protect such, even if it causes you to suffer.

If nature had any part in deciding the way man and woman should live it would have been to prevent people like you that stir up violence and damnation to be born in this world.

Unfortunately I do believe that it isn't your birth that allows you to percieve this world as the way you do. I believe that your parents are the ones to blame in terms of how they raise you to see this world as you do.

The true enemy is society, not nature and not sexuality.




Uh let me explain it to you in a manner you might be able to understand.

I am going to detail someone like you and someone else.

The life story of Johnny.

Johnny was a mild-manner man that was born in a protestant family that followed deeply with the ideology that was presented in the bible. One of the ideology the had followed was the abomination of homosexuality. So Johnny was raised with the ideology that homosexuality was abnormal and therefore shouldn't exist. He was therefore also raised to the idea that man was born to have sexual intercourse with woman and vice versa. He deeply followed such ideas and was warmly welcomed into society. And as he matured his sexuality became entirely dependent on the existence of females. This had all came about thanks to the factors that were presented above. And thus Johnny became a heterosexual.

Danny was also a mild-manner man that was born in a protestant family that followed deeply with the ideology that was presented in the bible. But Danny however was neglected alot and wasn't able to develope a critical standing of associating women as sex things. Danny was more of an equalist and his inability to differ man and woman lead him to become a bisexual as his teenage years had passed. But this wasn't Danny's own decision or choice. He had no power over his society and parents. He was an equalist, but that ideology that does not make someone a bisexual or a homosexual. To contrar, being an equal promotes more interaction with women, since you followed the equal notion to have women as close friends. And having women as close friends is how you obtain a girlfriend. So it's just an ideology promoting heterosexuality. But however, Danny couldn't equally associate quite well with girls, because his ideas contradicted society. So he was looked upon as a burder and most girls just didn't want to associate with him. So he grew upon the notion of liking boys in an attempt of liking girls. And like I said, it came about because he couldn't associate with girls well enough to grow a solid heterosexuality.

Tyler is was also a mild-manner man that was raised by a pedophile whom raped him as a child, in which altered the manner he could interact with women and men and produce a scar that had brought him into homosexuality.
This all had came about because Tyler was forced to dress up as a girl, by his father. And Tyler was forced to do many things that violated his sexuality.

So now I hope you can understand that it is society, particularly the interaction you have with parents that leads to homosexuality and bisexuality. But there are certain genetic things that can alter the manner in which you look at the world or associate with people that can also lead to homosexuality, but as a result of interacting with society.

No I'm not, stop whining just because I said something you can't understand.

Choosing to make someone your wife does not have a direct effect with sexuality.

Marriage is a union and you didn't choose your wife, you followed along with what society has brought you into.

Oh so you married her, so you can practice sexual intercourse with her.

That means her existence has no meaning to you, because she could have easily been replaced by another woman. All you have proven is how sexist you truely are.

Yes you needed to marry to have a legal union, in which you can practice sexual intercourse without being effected negatively by society.

But since when did you need to marry any woman to finish such a purpose in life?

Not all creatures in the animal kingdom are male and female.

Allow me to introduce you to the world of hermaphrodites.

Hermaphroditism
Hermaphrodite - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hamlet (fish) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Sex and the Single Hermaphrodite - - science news articles online technology magazine articles Sex and the Single Hermaphrodite
Snail - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If it was abnormal then it wouldn't result from psychology and it does.

Homosexuality is very normal, just not truely natural in terms to a species that is almost entirely either male or female.

However, in some species of animals and in almost all plants, to procreat with the same sex is very common. Especially with snails.

True true, still I don't understand what you are talking about. So what if your family will last only one generation. What is so significant about?

What wrong choice? If your family was stationed in New Orleans prior to the Katrina event, your entire family is probably going to be extinct anyways. So does it really matter?

Actually it isn't. Well maybe in your fantasy world it is. Hetero is latin for different, it's like saying the word "different" is prodominate on this world. Of course differences do prodominate this world thanks to evolution and such, but that isn't what you were talking about. You were talking about heterosexuality being prodominate. And the truth is it isn't. Heterosexuality is an evolution from aesexuality and hermaphroticism. And even right now you have some species that are trying to revert back to aesexuality and hermaphroticism.

No one makes the choice for their sexuality. You deciding to marry a woman came about do to society making you heterosexual or better yet, stabalizing your heterosexuality. If you were a Japanese Samurai, instead of whatever you are right now, you would have probably become a homosexual. And that's because of society.

Self defeating is not the same as unnatural. Unnatural is a typical meaning refering to artificial influence or creation. Again stop it with the senselessness. You are making no sense at all!

"Without being allowed to make a choice there is no one to do so?"

So let me get this straight. You say that without someone being allowed to make a choice that therefore there is no choice on the matter at all?

Bravo, you are finally getting it. Even though your ideology is backwards, base on the insecurity and lack of accepting differences that contradict the ideology you were raised to believe was true.

Because choicing a mate and choicing a wife is not the same thing. You can choice a mate without choicing a wife. And likewise you can choice a wife, but never decide to mate with her.

Homophobe, nature did not intended man to be with woman. Society intended man to be with woman. Nature intended man and woman to co-exist, not simply in terms of mating. The need to mate is what is brought up as one matures. And this all has to do with psychology, not choices.

That's because you were raised to be a homophobe and you lack fortitude to accept truth. You ideas are backwards and you will say anything to protect such, even if it causes you to suffer.

If nature had any part in deciding the way man and woman should live it would have been to prevent people like you that stir up violence and damnation to be born in this world.

Unfortunately I do believe that it isn't your birth that allows you to percieve this world as the way you do. I believe that your parents are the ones to blame in terms of how they raise you to see this world as you do.

The true enemy is society, not nature and not sexuality.

Is homosexuality a choice or is it inbred in come ones chemistry?

I have come to believe attraction is mysterious. Choice? I would say No. I post this question to support my opinion: Who would voluntarily identify with a group of people (based on sexual attraction) with so much hatred posed against?

What would you do? (I only ask as comparison - dominant culture vs. smaller group)

You are a heterosexual and our culture was homosexually in the majority would you march in a heterosexual pride parade.

(please consider this from the mindset that you prefer to live in that country and no others, I truly dont care if you want to or not)

Who would voluntarily identify with a group of people (based on sexual attraction) with so much hatred posed against?

What would you do?

You are a heterosexual and our culture was homosexually in the majority would you march in a heterosexual pride parade.

So, does it make me illegitimate if my parents weren't married at the time?

How does that make my existence less legitimate than yours, man?

How dare you. I have to say, one who believes such rubbish is far less legitimate than one who was merely born in a fashion he had no control over.