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Mark Foley Scandal and Hasert

 
 
Reply Sun 8 Oct, 2006 12:42 am
What is everyones take on whether Hasert should step down for not doing enough to stop Foley before it escalated into what it is today? With all the warnings that it seems were presented to him as far as 2003 do you think he should step down?

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GoodBoy
 
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Reply Sun 8 Oct, 2006 01:54 am
@Brent cv,
From what I read he knew only about the Emails, which were described as, "Overly Friendly".
It was the IM's which were the problem and he did not have prior knowledge of those. Apparently several news agencies did not think the emails were newsworthy either, passing on them when they were presented. Whats interesting to me is that it has come to light that Nancy Pelosi may have had prior knowledge and sat on it till it could do the most damage. I dont know if I can piece this together very well, Im trying to learn about the political game here so Im still wet behind the ears. Please bear with me.

Here are the supposed IM's between Foley and the page Jordan Edmund:
The page is saying he is Straight.. I say HAHAHAHA! hes either gay or these were a plot, excuse me, prank to out Foley. IF FOLEY WERE A DEMOCRAT, THIS STUFF WOULD HAVE STAYED SILENT.

If you think thats a ludicrous statement remember (or google) Gerry Studds, Barney Frank etc....

BRIAN ROSS AND THE INVESTIGATIVE TEAM
September 29, 2006 — - The following is an instant message exchange a former page says he had with Rep. Foley in 2003. Warning: sexually explicit language, reader discretion is advised.
Maf54 (7:25:14 PM): hey
Auto response from Xxxxxxxxx (7:25:14 PM): scrounging for food...brb

Maf54 (7:25:25 PM): ok
Maf54 (7:25:35 PM): kep scrounging
Xxxxxxxxx (7:31:51 PM): boo
Maf54 (7:32:13 PM): bo dude
Xxxxxxxxx (7:32:17 PM): lol
Xxxxxxxxx (7:32:26 PM): whered ya go this afternoon
Maf54 (7:33:39 PM): i am in pensecola...had to catch a plane
Xxxxxxxxx (7:33:47 PM): oh well thats fun
Maf54 (7:34:04 PM): indeed
Xxxxxxxxx (7:34:14 PM): what are you doing in pensecola
Maf54 (7:34:21 PM): now in my hotel room
Xxxxxxxxx (7:34:39 PM): well ..like why did you go there
Maf54 (7:35:02 PM): for the campaign
Xxxxxxxxx (7:35:29 PM): have you officialy announced yt
Maf54 (7:35:45 PM): not yet
Xxxxxxxxx (7:36:06 PM): cool cool...
Maf54 (7:37:27 PM): how my favorite young stud doing
Xxxxxxxxx (7:37:46 PM): tired and sore
Xxxxxxxxx (7:37:52 PM): i didnt no waltzing could make you sore
Maf54 (7:38:04 PM): from what
Xxxxxxxxx (7:38:34 PM): what do you mean from what
Xxxxxxxxx (7:38:42 PM): from waltzing...im sore from waltzing
Maf54 (7:39:32 PM): tahts good
Maf54 (7:39:32 PM): you need a massage
Maf54 signed off at 7:39:37 PM.
Maf54 signed on at 7:40:35 PM.
Xxxxxxxxx (7:40:44 PM): got kicked off?
Maf54 (7:41:24 PM): must have
Xxxxxxxxx (7:41:57 PM): ugh tomorrow i have the first day of lacrosse practice
Maf54 (7:42:27 PM): love to watch that
Maf54 (7:42:33 PM): those great legs running
Xxxxxxxxx (7:42:38 PM): haha...they arent great
Xxxxxxxxx (7:42:45 PM): thats why we have conditioning
Xxxxxxxxx (7:42:56 PM): 2 days running....3 days lifting
Xxxxxxxxx (7:43:11 PM): every week
Xxxxxxxxx (7:43:14 PM): until the end of march
Maf54 (7:43:27 PM): well dont ruin my mental picture
Xxxxxxxxx (7:43:32 PM): oh lol...sorry
Maf54 (7:43:54 PM): nice
Maf54 (7:43:54 PM): youll be way hot then
Xxxxxxxxx (7:44:01 PM): haha...hopefully
Maf54 (7:44:22 PM): better be
Maf54 (7:46:01 PM): well I better let you go do oyur thing
Xxxxxxxxx (7:46:07 PM): oh ok
Xxxxxxxxx (7:46:11 PM): have fun campaigning
Xxxxxxxxx (7:46:17 PM): or however you spell it
Xxxxxxxxx (7:46:18 PM): lol
Xxxxxxxxx (7:46:25 PM): ill see ya in a couple of weeks
Maf54 (7:46:33 PM): did any girl give you a haand job this weekend
Xxxxxxxxx (7:46:38 PM): lol no
Xxxxxxxxx (7:46:40 PM): im single right now
Xxxxxxxxx (7:46:57 PM): my last gf and i broke up a few weeks agi
Maf54 (7:47:11 PM): are you
Maf54 (7:47:11 PM): good so your getting horny
Xxxxxxxxx (7:47:29 PM): lol...a bit
Maf54 (7:48:00 PM): did you spank it this weekend yourself
Xxxxxxxxx (7:48:04 PM): no
Xxxxxxxxx (7:48:16 PM): been too tired and too busy
Maf54 (7:48:33 PM): wow...
Maf54 (7:48:34 PM): i am never to busy haha
Xxxxxxxxx (7:48:51 PM): haha
Maf54 (7:50:02 PM): or tired..helps me sleep
Xxxxxxxxx (7:50:15 PM): thats true
Xxxxxxxxx (7:50:36 PM): havent been having a problem with sleep though.. i just walk in the door and collapse well at least this weekend
Maf54 (7:50:56 PM): i am sure
Xxxxxxxxx (7:50:57 PM): i dont do it very often normally though
Maf54 (7:51:11 PM): why not
Maf54 (7:51:22 PM): at your age seems like it would be daily
Xxxxxxxxx (7:51:57 PM): not me
Xxxxxxxxx (7:52:01 PM): im not a horn dog
Xxxxxxxxx (7:52:07 PM): maybe 2 or 3 times a week
Maf54 (7:52:20 PM): thats a good number
Maf54 (7:52:27 PM): in the shower
Xxxxxxxxx (7:52:36 PM): actually usually i dont do it in the shower
Xxxxxxxxx (7:52:42 PM): just cause i shower in the morning
Xxxxxxxxx (7:52:47 PM): and quickly
Maf54 (7:52:50 PM): in the bed
Xxxxxxxxx (7:52:59 PM): i get up at 530 and am outta the house by 610
Xxxxxxxxx (7:53:03 PM): eh ya
Maf54 (7:53:24 PM): on your back
Xxxxxxxxx (7:53:30 PM): no face down
Maf54 (7:53:32 PM): love details
Xxxxxxxxx (7:53:34 PM): lol
Xxxxxxxxx (7:53:36 PM): i see that
Xxxxxxxxx (7:53:37 PM): lol
Maf54 (7:53:39 PM): really
Maf54 (7:53:54 PM): do you really do it face down
Xxxxxxxxx (7:54:03 PM): ya
Maf54 (7:54:13 PM): kneeling
Xxxxxxxxx (7:54:31 PM): well i dont use my hand...i use the bed itself
Maf54 (7:54:31 PM): where do you unload it
Xxxxxxxxx (7:54:36 PM): towel
Maf54 (7:54:43 PM): really
Maf54 (7:55:02 PM): completely naked?
Xxxxxxxxx (7:55:12 PM): well ya
Maf54 (7:55:21 PM): very nice
Xxxxxxxxx (7:55:24 PM): lol
Maf54 (7:55:51 PM): cute butt bouncing in the air
Xxxxxxxxx (7:56:00 PM): haha
Xxxxxxxxx (7:56:05 PM): well ive never watched myslef
Xxxxxxxxx (7:56:08 PM): but ya i guess
Maf54 (7:56:18 PM): i am sure not
Maf54 (7:56:22 PM): hmmm
Maf54 (7:56:30 PM): great visual
Maf54 (7:56:39 PM): i may try that
Xxxxxxxxx (7:56:43 PM): it works
Maf54 (7:56:51 PM): hmm
Maf54 (7:56:57 PM): sound inetersting
Maf54 (7:57:05 PM): i always use lotion and the hand
Maf54 (7:57:10 PM): but who knows
Xxxxxxxxx (7:57:24 PM): i dont use lotion...takes too much time to clean up
Xxxxxxxxx (7:57:37 PM): with a towel you can just wipe off....and go
Maf54 (7:57:38 PM): lol
Maf54 (7:57:45 PM): where do you throw the towel
Xxxxxxxxx (7:57:48 PM): but you cant work it too hard....or its not good
Xxxxxxxxx (7:57:51 PM): in the laundry
Maf54 (7:58:16 PM): just kinda slow rubbing
Xxxxxxxxx (7:58:23 PM): ya....
Xxxxxxxxx (7:58:32 PM): or youll rub yourslef raw
Maf54 (7:58:37 PM): well I have aa totally stiff wood now
Xxxxxxxxx (7:58:40 PM): cause the towell isnt very soft
Maf54 (7:58:44 PM): i bet..taht would hurt
Xxxxxxxxx (7:58:50 PM): but you cn find something softer than a towell i guess
Maf54 (7:58:59 PM): but it must feel great spirting on the towel
Xxxxxxxxx (7:59:06 PM): ya
Maf54 (7:59:29 PM): wow
Maf54 (7:59:48 PM): is your little guy limp...or growing
Xxxxxxxxx (7:59:54 PM): eh growing
Maf54 (8:00:00 PM): hmm
Maf54 (8:00:12 PM): so you got a stiff one now
Xxxxxxxxx (8:00:19 PM): not that fast
Xxxxxxxxx (8:00:20 PM): hey
Xxxxxxxxx (8:00:32 PM): so you have a fetich
Maf54 (8:00:32 PM): hey what
Xxxxxxxxx (8:00:40 PM): fetish**
Maf54 (8:00:43 PM): like
Maf54 (8:00:53 PM): i like steamroom
Maf54 (8:01:04 PM): whats yours
Xxxxxxxxx (8:01:09 PM): its kinda weird
Xxxxxxxxx (8:01:14 PM): lol
Maf54 (8:01:21 PM): i am hard as a rock..so tell me when your reaches rock
Xxxxxxxxx (8:01:23 PM): i have a cast fetish
Maf54 (8:01:27 PM): well tell me
Maf54 (8:01:32 PM): cast
Xxxxxxxxx (8:01:44 PM): ya like...plaster cast
Maf54 (8:01:49 PM): ok..so what happens
Maf54 (8:01:58 PM): how does that turn you in
Xxxxxxxxx (8:02:02 PM): i dont know
Xxxxxxxxx (8:02:04 PM): it just does
Xxxxxxxxx (8:02:08 PM): ive never had one
Xxxxxxxxx (8:02:16 PM): but people that have them turn me on
Xxxxxxxxx (8:02:27 PM): and if i had one it would probably turn me on
Xxxxxxxxx (8:02:29 PM): beats me
Xxxxxxxxx (8:02:32 PM): its kinda weird
Xxxxxxxxx (8:02:50 PM): but along with that i like the whole catholic girl look....thats our schools uniform
Maf54 (8:03:02 PM): ha thats wild
Xxxxxxxxx (8:03:14 PM): ya but now im hard
Maf54 (8:03:32 PM): me 2
Maf54 (8:03:42 PM): cast got you going
Maf54 (8:03:47 PM): what you wearing
Xxxxxxxxx (8:04:04 PM): normal clothes
Xxxxxxxxx (8:04:09 PM): tshirt and shorts
Maf54 (8:04:17 PM): um so a big buldge
Xxxxxxxxx (8:04:35 PM): ya
Maf54 (8:04:45 PM): um
Maf54 (8:04:58 PM): love to slip them off of you
Xxxxxxxxx (8:05:08 PM): haha
Maf54 (8:05:53 PM): and gram the one eyed snake
Maf54 (8:06:13 PM): grab
Xxxxxxxxx (8:06:53 PM): not tonight...dont get to excited
Maf54 (8:07:12 PM): well your hard
Xxxxxxxxx (8:07:45 PM): that is true
Maf54 (8:08:03 PM): and a little horny
Xxxxxxxxx (8:08:11 PM): and also tru
Maf54 (8:08:31 PM): get a ruler and measure it for me
Xxxxxxxxx (8:08:38 PM): ive already told you that
Maf54 (8:08:47 PM): tell me again
Xxxxxxxxx (8:08:49 PM): 7 and 1/2
Maf54 (8:09:04 PM): ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Maf54 (8:09:08 PM): beautiful
Xxxxxxxxx (8:09:38 PM): lol
Maf54 (8:09:44 PM): thats a great size
Xxxxxxxxx (8:10:00 PM): thank you
Maf54 (8:10:22 PM): still stiff
Xxxxxxxxx (8:10:28 PM): ya
Maf54 (8:10:40 PM): take it out
Xxxxxxxxx (8:10:54 PM): brb...my mom is yelling
Maf54 (8:11:06 PM): ok
Xxxxxxxxx (8:14:02 PM): back
Maf54 (8:14:37 PM): cool hope se didnt see any thing
Xxxxxxxxx (8:14:54 PM): no no
Xxxxxxxxx (8:14:59 PM): she is computer dumb though
Xxxxxxxxx (8:15:01 PM): it makes me so mad
Maf54 (8:15:04 PM): good
Maf54 (8:15:08 PM): haha
Maf54 (8:15:11 PM): why
Xxxxxxxxx (8:15:23 PM): cause she cant do anything
Maf54 (8:15:31 PM): oh well
Xxxxxxxxx (8:15:41 PM): she couldnt figure out how to download a file from an email and open it
Maf54 (8:15:53 PM): haha
Xxxxxxxxx (8:16:14 PM): and she only does it like a million times a day
Xxxxxxxxx (8:16:16 PM): oh well
Xxxxxxxxx (8:16:18 PM): whatever
Xxxxxxxxx (8:16:53 PM): well i better go finish my hw...i just found out from a friend that i have to finish reading and notating a book for AP english
Maf54 signed off at 8:17:43 PM.
Copyright ? 2006 ABC News Internet Ventures

Its been said Mr Booty Boy Edmund might have been in on a prank with other pages to get Foley to write some dirty stuff. Was it a private prank by some teens or were they egged on by someone else a little more important than a page?

Im gonna post all the links Ive come across and let yall put all this together.
I simply can't keep it all straight (no pun intended)

WorldNetDaily: 'Gay' activist held info about Foley

Heres a link to the guy that found the pages Im's and outted him. Its several long articles but read all of them if you can.

Passionate America

Heres an article saying all the Foley info was held until it could do the most damage to the Republicans.

FBI Says Soros’ CREW Sat On Foley Emails Since April | Sweetness & Light

Robin Katsaros is a Pulosi friend and was writing a book on the pages Do I see this going right on Pulosi's doorstep?


Ok here is the article linking Robin Katsaros, a Kerry Supporter, whos gay son was a page for Nancy Pelosi:
Further unraveling of the Foley case (Pelosi alert!)

AND this:
Foley Setup? - Part XIV - Putting it together

Heres is her son's MySpace page. read what hes says about not feeling like an American.. little snit.
www.myspace.com/chasefitch

Last but NOT least, I am NOT defending Foleys actions AT ALL. He needs to have his butt kicked hard (but ya might lose your foot up there)

There is talk that these IM's, which are THE REAL PROBLEM were messed with and are NOT the original ones. Somebody may have made them up or made them sound a bit worse than they were, BUT Foley was obviously guilty or he wouldnt have resigned.

This is 4 days of research by a noob! I don't have near as much info as is out there. Most of you have probebly read all this stuff already.
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Brent cv
 
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Reply Sun 8 Oct, 2006 02:17 am
@Brent cv,
That's just ******* sick
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Sun 8 Oct, 2006 06:43 pm
@Brent cv,
Unless your a democrat, then it's a lifestyle.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Sun 8 Oct, 2006 07:11 pm
@Brent cv,
Found this at drudge

DrudgeReportArchives.com ? 2006

XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX THU OCT 5 2006 2:53:48 ET XXXXX

CLAIM: FILTHY FOLEY ONLINE CHATS WERE PAGE 'PRANK GONE AWRY'
**World Exclusive**
**Must Credit the DRUDGE REPORT**

According to two people close to former congressional page Jordan Edmund, the now famous lurid AOL Instant Message exchanges that led to the resignation of Mark Foley were part of an online prank that by mistake got into the hands of enemy political operatives, the DRUDGE REPORT can reveal.

According to one Oklahoma source who knows the former page very well, Edmund, a conservative Republican, goaded an unwitting Foley to type embarrassing comments that were then shared with a small group of young Hill politicos. The prank went awry when the saved IM sessions got into the hands of political operatives favorable to Democrats.

The primary source, an ally of Edmund, adamantly proclaims that the former page is not a homosexual. The prank scenario was confirmed by a second associate of Edmund. Both are fearful that their political careers will be affected if they are publicly brought into the investigation.

The prank scenario only applies to the Edmund IM sessions and does not necessarily apply to any other exchanges between the former congressman and others.

The news come on the heels that Edmund has hired former Timothy McVeigh attorney, Stephen Jones.

Developing...
GoodBoy
 
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Reply Sun 8 Oct, 2006 07:36 pm
@Drnaline,
Correct, thats what got me so interested in the first place. Nancy Pelosi's buddy Robin Katsaros (or Kasaros as its spelled at times) was supposedly writing a book about the pages and had lots of info from former pages and from a few of Foleys pages. It all makes me think that Robin used this 'book" thing to find a bit more info for her buddy Pelosi.

Jordan Edmund's (Foleys IM boy toy) lawyer is not denying nor admitting to a prank by pages. Its seems to me more of a plot by Robin Katsaros and Pelosi to out Foley and do damage to repubs.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Sun 8 Oct, 2006 08:04 pm
@Brent cv,
WorldNetDaily: 'Gay' activist held info about Foley

ON CAPITOL HILL
'Gay' activist held
info about Foley
During campaign to 'out' lawmakers
said story would break before election

Posted: October 3, 2006
5:00 p.m. Eastern



? 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

A radical activist on a mission to "out" conservative homosexual lawmakers and Capitol Hill staffers held on to information about Rep. Mark Foley's relationships with underage male pages, suggesting the story would break at the time of mid-term elections.

Blogger Jim Hoft of Gateway Pundit points to a campaign by activist Mike Rogers who had Foley on a "target list" of 20 people and shared the information with the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.

Foley abruptly resigned Friday as reports surfaced of inappropriate e-mails with a male page. Later, ABC News released online instant messages of more salacious exchanges. Foley has issued a statement saying he checked himself into an alcohol rehabilitation program at an undisclosed location.

In July 2004, the homosexual newspaper Washington Blade reported Rogers helped lead an "ongoing outing campaign on the Hill" ahead of the Senate vote on the Federal Marriage Amendment, which would bar same-sex marriage.

Among nearly 20 names on the "target list" provided to the Blade were Foley and Democratic Sen. Barbara Mikulski of Maryland.

The paper said a spokesman for Foley declined to comment after another homosexual activist, John Aravosis, asserted on his website the previous week that Foley is "gay."

"Both members of Congress have long been the subject of rumors about their sexual orientation," the paper said.
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GoodBoy
 
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Reply Sat 14 Oct, 2006 07:27 am
@Brent cv,
If anyone wants to help with internet sleuthing and connecting the dots. Some bloggers could use some help.

I dont know if theres anything to it but it seems Ron Gunzburger, a well known Florida Democrat is connected to some Major Gay Porn Sites which was hosted on the same server as Congressional Webpages. You'll have to read the whole thing. They are all very well connected it seems. Go check it out.. it has sleeze, corruption and maybe the end of some demoncrats! Woohoo!

FOLEYGATE RESEARCH(vanity)
tumbleweed cv
 
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Reply Sat 14 Oct, 2006 08:22 am
@GoodBoy,
Getting desperate are we?:headbang:
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GoodBoy
 
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Reply Sat 14 Oct, 2006 09:31 am
@Brent cv,
No not at all.. The more Demoncrats brought down.. the better!Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
tumbleweed cv
 
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Reply Sat 14 Oct, 2006 09:46 am
@GoodBoy,
I suppose sometimes it is better to be optimistic rather than realistic.Very Happy
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GoodBoy
 
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Reply Sat 14 Oct, 2006 10:41 am
@Brent cv,
And Demoncrats don't know how to do either, but I guess when your blessed by God as republicans are.. its a given:D Very Happy Very Happy
tumbleweed cv
 
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Reply Sat 14 Oct, 2006 11:24 am
@GoodBoy,
What do you mean by " blessed by god"? They already played the moral values card. I don't hear a lot about their moral values this time around.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Sun 15 Oct, 2006 06:43 pm
@Brent cv,
What of what he did was imoral? In DC the age of concent is 16. When some one choose's to engage in his chosen preference i believe does not make it immoral in his mind as most gays people seem to think. Are you saying he is immoral for being gay?
I got a question for you. If he'd been a democrat, would he of resigned? I dought that being as they admit they do not follow the same "moral" high ground as most republicans.
tumbleweed cv
 
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Reply Mon 16 Oct, 2006 06:23 am
@Drnaline,
If Foley is innocent why did he run for rehab before explaining his actions? I get the impression you don't see anything wrong with his actions.

Being gay isn't the problem with what he did.It would have been just as inappropriate if the victim was female.

As for what the Democrats would have done, you'll have to ask one to get an answer to that question.:dunno:
GoodBoy
 
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Reply Mon 16 Oct, 2006 06:40 am
@Brent cv,
Foley is scum, he was sent packing. I really wish he would turn Democrat, He'd feel loved and accepted with them... and they could compare notes about the pages they've seduced. lol
tumbleweed cv
 
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Reply Mon 16 Oct, 2006 06:46 am
@GoodBoy,
Foley wasn't sent packing,he took off for rehab like his butt was on fire.

Who were the pages that the Democrats seduced?
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Mon 16 Oct, 2006 08:47 am
@tumbleweed cv,
tumbleweed;5627 wrote:
If Foley is innocent why did he run for rehab before explaining his actions? I get the impression you don't see anything wrong with his actions.

Being gay isn't the problem with what he did.It would have been just as inappropriate if the victim was female.

As for what the Democrats would have done, you'll have to ask one to get an answer to that question.:dunno:


Quote:
If Foley is innocent why did he run for rehab before explaining his actions? I get the impression you don't see anything wrong with his actions.

I think he had a few press conferences and also addressed Congress before he admitted himself to a rehab. I didn't say what he did wasn't wrong, he can only be prosecuted for what he did illegally, nothing much can be done for what he did immorally no matter who's opinion they are following.
What immoral do you think he has done?
What illegally do you think he has done?
Do you think he should be prosecuted?
Quote:
As for what the Democrats would have done, you'll have to ask one to get an answer to that question.

I'm not asking a demo, i'm asking your opinion? What do you think?
BonaParte cv
 
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Reply Mon 16 Oct, 2006 10:27 am
@Drnaline,
Quote:
Being gay isn't the problem with what he did.


Well, there you go!
I guess it's allright to chase little boys and mess up their lives.
Now I know for sure the world is going down the bloody tube.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Wed 18 Oct, 2006 11:56 am
@Brent cv,
Any one know why Harry Reid hasn't resigned yet?
 

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