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State Of The Union 2006: What Grade Do You Give President Bush?

 
 
Reply Thu 2 Feb, 2006 01:29 am
In all honesty now what do you give Bush as an overall grade for the year 2005?
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Brent cv
 
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Reply Thu 2 Feb, 2006 01:31 am
@Brent cv,
I gave him a C for average job. He has messed up a lot of things in my opinion and I do not agree with some of the legislation he has pushed through but I believe he is handling somethings very well for the current situation.
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STEVE cv
 
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Reply Thu 2 Feb, 2006 01:40 pm
@Brent cv,
C
he handled things okay, but not great.
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Curmudgeon
 
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Reply Fri 3 Feb, 2006 12:21 am
@Brent cv,
I haven't found much to criticize him for , except perhaps that little is being done about immigration issues , especially illegal immigration on our southern border .
I think he is the right man for the job at the time , and don't see anyone else that could , or would do a better job .
tumbleweed cv
 
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Reply Sun 5 Feb, 2006 10:09 pm
@Curmudgeon,
I'd have to say a D. on the SOTU address. I get nervous when politician give me 20 year projections. He doesn't have a great track record in foreign policy matters, so I don't think he will be a great factor in any solutions in the ME. He needs to concentrate on Iraq.

The next President will inherit this mess. There is so much corruption and mis-use of funds over there, it's scary. This a problem Bush needs to fix, but I didn't hear much about the real problems. Underfunding of his own programs is becoming an issue. Healthcare under Bush is becoming a problem. Wasn't that a problem he was facing when elected?

The Patriot Act. Slippery slope here for me. I see a lot of liberties infringed upon .They keep rolling it over instead of voting on it. Did they just wake up and find it on their desk? Nothing is moving in Washington. Nothing is being passed.

I see Bush as a lame duck , unless he fools us again. I would have liked to hear about some political reform. Special interest group are hurting our political process.

Those are a few of the issues I didn't feel were addressed enough concerning things I pay attention to.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Tue 7 Feb, 2006 08:59 pm
@Brent cv,
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I see Bush as a lame duck , unless he fools us again.

Are you saying he is supersmart or you are easily fooled? (sarcasm)
tumbleweed cv
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2006 07:04 am
@Drnaline,
Drnaline wrote:
Are you saying he is supersmart or you are easily fooled? (sarcasm)


I'm not sure I can use Bush and smart in the same sentence.:confused: I didn't vote for Bush so I can say that he didn't fool me, but he did fool enough people to get elected. I think his record in Texas give us an idea about what his agenda would be. He was elected because to the American public, he was the lesser of the 2 evils. The Republicans are the ones who got fooled IMO.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2006 07:09 am
@Brent cv,
I can understand that but in your statement you said "unless he fools us again. ?" I think i hear you include yourself. So who do you think is the bigger con artist between him and sklinton? I don't think he fooled many repugs. Alot of people want him doing exactly what he's doing. He is following the agenda he laid out.
tumbleweed cv
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2006 08:09 am
@Drnaline,
Drnaline wrote:
I can understand that but in your statement you said "unless he fools us again. ?" I think i hear you include yourself. So who do you think is the bigger con artist between him and sklinton? I don't think he fooled many repugs. Alot of people want him doing exactly what he's doing. He is following the agenda he laid out.


I have to disagree on what you consider a lot of people approving of Bush. His approval rate is hovering right around 40% on a good day. I agree he is following his agenda. Oil companies are showing record profits, he will be known as the worst president in history as far as the environment issues are concerned, he continues to run record deficits, he continues to underfund his own programs, and he invaded a sovereign nation for their oil, to name a few.

Clinton v. Bush. Clinton got caught screwing a few women. Bush got caught screwing the whole country.Very Happy
ndjs
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2006 05:12 pm
@Brent cv,
Oh come on, not again with the "invaded a sovereign nation for their oil" crap again...
tumbleweed cv
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2006 05:59 pm
@ndjs,
ndjs wrote:
Oh come on, not again with the "invaded a sovereign nation for their oil" crap again...


Fair enough. Why did we invade Iraq? WMD? I don't think so. Yes they had WMD's, we sold them to Iraq, so we knew they were there. What Bush didn't say is those same WMD had a short shelf life. By the time we invaded Iraq, those weapons were not as lethal as Bush was claiming. Where are the WMD's?

Here is some food for thought. Saddam was selling his oil for Euros instead of dollars. What would happen if all the oil producing nation took up with Saddam and started selling oil for Euros instead of dollars? As soon as we invaded Iraq, they started selling Iraq oil for dollars again. Being an oil man, do you suppose Bush was aware of what Saddam was doing? This is just another example that points to the invasion being about oil, and protecting our oil interests in that region.
Drnaline
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2006 06:27 pm
@tumbleweed cv,
tumbleweed wrote:
I have to disagree on what you consider a lot of people approving of Bush. His approval rate is hovering right around 40% on a good day. I agree he is following his agenda. Oil companies are showing record profits, he will be known as the worst president in history as far as the environment issues are concerned, he continues to run record deficits, he continues to underfund his own programs, and he invaded a sovereign nation for their oil, to name a few.

Clinton v. Bush. Clinton got caught screwing a few women. Bush got caught screwing the whole country.Very Happy

I'm sure if you ask a hundred Liberals you'll get an approval rating more to your liking. Since when are oil companys not in it for profit making and how does that have to do with Bush? You probably believe he and Rove caused the huricanes too? Blew up the levy to kill black people? And what enviromental issues are you talking about? Why am i paying 2.60 a gallon for preme if we are stealing there oil?

Clinton got caught LIEING. To the american people and Congress, an impeachable offence for which he was impeached. I see you give him a pass on adultery but that is the only thing he lied to us about right? Admitted, impeached liar!
Brent cv
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2006 07:59 pm
@tumbleweed cv,
tumbleweed wrote:
Fair enough. Why did we invade Iraq? WMD? I don't think so. Yes they had WMD's, we sold them to Iraq, so we knew they were there. What Bush didn't say is those same WMD had a short shelf life. By the time we invaded Iraq, those weapons were not as lethal as Bush was claiming. Where are the WMD's?

Here is some food for thought. Saddam was selling his oil for Euros instead of dollars. What would happen if all the oil producing nation took up with Saddam and started selling oil for Euros instead of dollars? As soon as we invaded Iraq, they started selling Iraq oil for dollars again. Being an oil man, do you suppose Bush was aware of what Saddam was doing? This is just another example that points to the invasion being about oil, and protecting our oil interests in that region.


Interesting about the euros and dollars switch. Got any sources for that?
Brent cv
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2006 08:01 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline wrote:
I'm sure if you ask a hundred Liberals you'll get an approval rating more to your liking. Since when are oil companys not in it for profit making and how does that have to do with Bush? You probably believe he and Rove caused the huricanes too? Blew up the levy to kill black people? And what enviromental issues are you talking about? Why am i paying 2.60 a gallon for preme if we are stealing there oil?

Clinton got caught LIEING. To the american people and Congress, an impeachable offence for which he was impeached. I see you give him a pass on adultery but that is the only thing he lied to us about right? Admitted, impeached liar!


You act like Clinton was without a reason of doubt guilty. Just curious but why did the republican controlled senate disagree with you and not impeach him?
tumbleweed cv
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2006 08:39 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline wrote:
I'm sure if you ask a hundred Liberals you'll get an approval rating more to your liking. Since when are oil companys not in it for profit making and how does that have to do with Bush? You probably believe he and Rove caused the huricanes too? Blew up the levy to kill black people? And what enviromental issues are you talking about? Why am i paying 2.60 a gallon for preme if we are stealing there oil?

Clinton got caught LIEING. To the american people and Congress, an impeachable offence for which he was impeached. I see you give him a pass on adultery but that is the only thing he lied to us about right? Admitted, impeached liar!


I thought I was being generous throwing 40% in there.Very Happy

I'm not against profits. I'm against record profits at a time when we are paying record fuel prices.

Actually I don't know much about Rove, other than he remindes me of a mole.Very Happy Why would I think he blew up a levy? Now that you mention it, I don't recall anyone from the Bush addm. being in N.O. the first dew days of the disaster. The only people who killed black people in N.O. were the black mayor and his evacuation plan.

The environment statement was in reference to the regulations that were weakened by Bushs Clear Skies Innitiative v. the Clear Air Act.

I'm not sure why your paying $2.60 a gallon.:confused: Stealing oil, I presume you meant Iraq. Were not stealing their oil because we can't get it out of Iraq. It's of no use if you can't get it out of the ground.

Clinton lies v. Bush lies. A lie is a lie. Who's lies does the most damage?

Clintons lies were punishable by law. Was he thrown out of office? How much did Ken Starr spend to show America that our President just got the most expensive oral sex in the world?

Bushs lies are a proven fact, not punishable (yet) by law. We have 2 more years of Bush. His lies are across a broader scope of issues.

Comparing Bush to Clinton is for another thread.Very Happy
Drnaline
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2006 09:12 pm
@Brent cv,
Brent wrote:
You act like Clinton was without a reason of doubt guilty. Just curious but why did the republican controlled senate disagree with you and not impeach him?

When he said on air "I did not have relations with that Women" means to me he didn't. But then it was proved he did. With Congress he was asked under oath. And for your information he was impeached and was allowed to fill what was left of his term. There was and is no dought he LIED. Cum on a dress, remember? The repugs did agree with me and did impeach him. Why do you think he wasn't?
Drnaline
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2006 09:34 pm
@tumbleweed cv,
tumbleweed wrote:
I thought I was being generous throwing 40% in there.Very Happy

I'm not against profits. I'm against record profits at a time when we are paying record fuel prices.

Actually I don't know much about Rove, other than he remindes me of a mole.Very Happy Why would I think he blew up a levy? Now that you mention it, I don't recall anyone from the Bush addm. being in N.O. the first dew days of the disaster. The only people who killed black people in N.O. were the black mayor and his evacuation plan.

The environment statement was in reference to the regulations that were weakened by Bushs Clear Skies Innitiative v. the Clear Air Act.

I'm not sure why your paying $2.60 a gallon.:confused: Stealing oil, I presume you meant Iraq. Were not stealing their oil because we can't get it out of Iraq. It's of no use if you can't get it out of the ground.

Clinton lies v. Bush lies. A lie is a lie. Who's lies does the most damage?

Clintons lies were punishable by law. Was he thrown out of office? How much did Ken Starr spend to show America that our President just got the most expensive oral sex in the world?

Bushs lies are a proven fact, not punishable (yet) by law. We have 2 more years of Bush. His lies are across a broader scope of issues.

Comparing Bush to Clinton is for another thread.Very Happy
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I'm not against profits. I'm against record profits at a time when we are paying record fuel prices.


So if you made a wise decision and invested in let say Microsoft and became a millionsaire you would give it all up because you made to much? I think not.

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Why would I think he blew up a levy?

I don't know but you believe in alot of other stuff that seems just as far fetched?

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The environment statement was in reference to the regulations that were weakened by Bushs Clear Skies Innitiative v. the Clear Air Act.

Sounds like an opinion. Got anything a little more substancial?
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I'm not sure why your paying $2.60 a gallon. Stealing oil, I presume you meant Iraq. Were not stealing their oil because we can't get it out of Iraq. It's of no use if you can't get it out of the ground.

Then why say this, "and he invaded a sovereign nation for their oil," We invaded them so we could take it then? I don't understand your statement?

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Clinton lies v. Bush lies. A lie is a lie. Who's lies does the most damage?

I can prove bill lied, where is your proof that bush lied. Not heresay, proof?

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Clintons lies were punishable by law. Was he thrown out of office? How much did Ken Starr spend to show America that our President just got the most expensive oral sex in the world?

No he was not thrown out because Congress allowed him to finish his term. Ken Starr didn't spend near as much as the left trying to get Rove, Libby? And the money was spent to show the world that the President Lied about recieving oral sex, not about getting it.

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Bushs lies are a proven fact, not punishable (yet) by law. We have 2 more years of Bush. His lies are across a broader scope of issues.

Proven fact, where? I haven't seen any facts yet? But we do have a video of clinton. Broader scope of issues huh? Care to be a little more specific?

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Comparing Bush to Clinton is for another thread.

Your a little late to say that now.
tumbleweed cv
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2006 09:40 pm
@Brent cv,
Brent wrote:
Interesting about the euros and dollars switch. Got any sources for that?


This is a link that explains the euro theory and what threat it poses.
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48652
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Brent cv
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2006 11:28 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline wrote:
When he said on air "I did not have relations with that Women" means to me he didn't. But then it was proved he did. With Congress he was asked under oath. And for your information he was impeached and was allowed to fill what was left of his term. There was and is no dought he LIED. Cum on a dress, remember? The repugs did agree with me and did impeach him. Why do you think he wasn't?


He was impeached by the House, not the Senate.

I am just wondering why the Senate did not see the same thing as the House. Both were Republican controlled.

You spend all this money to prove this guy is a liar and then let him serve out his term after being impeached by the House?

Does that not piss you off in the least bit?
tumbleweed cv
 
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Reply Wed 8 Feb, 2006 11:39 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline wrote:
So if you made a wise decision and invested in let say Microsoft and became a millionsaire you would give it all up because you made to much? I think not.


I don't know but you believe in alot of other stuff that seems just as far fetched?


Sounds like an opinion. Got anything a little more substancial?

Then why say this, "and he invaded a sovereign nation for their oil," We invaded them so we could take it then? I don't understand your statement?


I can prove bill lied, where is your proof that bush lied. Not heresay, proof?


No he was not thrown out because Congress allowed him to finish his term. Ken Starr didn't spend near as much as the left trying to get Rove, Libby? And the money was spent to show the world that the President Lied about recieving oral sex, not about getting it.


Proven fact, where? I haven't seen any facts yet? But we do have a video of clinton. Broader scope of issues huh? Care to be a little more specific?


Your a little late to say that now.


First of all, do you expect me to answer each and every one of those quotes?:rolleyes: Most of your quotes would have to be addressed in seperate threads. To address each one would send this thread so far off- topic I doubt anyone would know what we were talking about.

Microsoft? What does Microsoft have to do with record oil company profits?

You mention my comment were far fetched. Until they are proven wrong by contrasting facts, they haven't been proven wrong. I'v been proven wrong before, so you have some wiggle room:D

There isn't enough bandwidth here to address all of Bushs lies. Do you actually believe everything he says? It's been a long time since I saw a thread titled " Why does everyone think Bush is a liar." Far be it for me to break the news .:rolleyes:

Getting, recieving. That to me means Clinton was the recipient of sexual favors. That falls under being politically correct.:wink:

I know how much Ken Starr has spent, but I'd have to research Rove and Libby. Perhaps you could show me some figures , since you mentioned them.
If you really want figures I'll post them for Starrs investigation.

I don't recall saying we stole oil. I said we invaded because of WMD. Because we didn't find any, I suggested that it was for the oil, which seems logical because it wasn't for the WMD. If it wasn't because of oil, and it wasn't because of WMD, what was it for? You know my theory, tell me yours.

I'm not going to post a bunch of info to prove my point if your just going to say "Oh thats far fetched." I have better things to do.:rolleyes:

This looks like a highjacked thread to me.Weren't we discussing the Bush SOTU address?
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