I don’t make anything up Frank.
All sciences are interconnected.
If good and bad could be different then allow for it in science and philosophy as a starting point even if you don’t know what that difference is.
Don’t just assume they are the same as a starting point.
I don't babble Frank. You just don't understand.
I don't assume things either. I accept all possibilities when it comes to the possible absolutes of good is bad and bad is good and good is good and bad is bad.
My philosophical starting point is not an assumption that the absolute is good is bad and bad is good.
I accept that a belief or non belief in a GOD will bring me to exactly the same without hope point philosophically.
My science and philosophy is totally sound.
All I have is hope (not a guess) just like you even though you don't realise it because you are totally UNAWARE.
Frank - don't you get tired of "debating" J10?
You don't need an argument, you just need a pin (though you have thoroughly needled him!).
I hope that there is God Frank.
However, I recognise that a belief in a God may not be enough.
I recognise and accept that with the full possibility logics i.e. good is bad and bad is good and good is good and bad is bad that there may be absolute rules involved because if good is good and bad is bad and there is a difference then there could be consequences involved with this God.
Have patience Bobsul.It will all become clear in the end....
I see a ton of OPs from 10 and more years ago reanimated from deep sleep by new accounts that toss out a couple of posts and disappear. I think one day we'll check in and the lights will be off.
But you're right: it's the same ten liberals and the same five nitwits. Repeating over and over the same things. No doubt, I am a major offender.
I hate to admit it. I don't come to be educated anymore - we've rehashed the same five topics over thousands of pages over hundreds of OPs. I come here to visit friends, read funny stuff not in a comic thread, make funny comments and that is it. The closest we come to making it interesting was the first six months of Ukraine and the first two years of Covid.
I think we come here to connect and yet there are five people I would vote off this island, realizing I'm on that that list, too, for a bunch of people I admire.
I'm very invested on another site. I moderate there, been there 10+ years. Izzy and glitter tried it out, but couldn't get into the swing.
When this place slips away. So does a lot of people I care about.
I don't babble Frank.
I HOPE there is a God because that is all I have and all you have.
Your "I choose not to guess" nonsense is "babble" Frank because you could choose to guess if you want, but you choose not to.
The good and bad logic combinations do apply as POSSIBILITIES Frank.
As I say, your philosophy is lagging way behind.
Atheism started its whole scientific and philosophical journey on the assumption that the absolutes in nature are that good is bad and bad is good Frank.
You have a choice to guess whether this is true or not true on one side of the fence or You have a choice to not guess wether this is true or not true on the other side of the fence.
You have merely chosen the latter.
Your unbalanced philosophy is nonsense Frank