FALLING Like A House of Cards on Monday ?

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The collapse of communist slavery was precipated, most immediately,
by the tearing down of the Berlin Wall. Thereafter, communism fell astonishingly fast -- like a house of cards.

So far as I can see (without having read next Monday 's decision in McDONALD and NRA v. CHICAGO)
the collapse of gun control in America will begin with this precedent,
applying the Bill of Rights to curtail the power of State governments.

I think that gun control laws will begin to fall across the nation,
like slavery did in Europe after the Berlin Wall was abandoned n torn down in 1989
and similar to the short time between D-Day and VE-Day (11 months).

There r some courts that r now just waiting for this precedent to be put into effect.

This will create conditions nationwide that r very unsafe for violent criminals -- not a promising career,
when the victims r free to fight back, free of liberal interference.

Great Joy, but not for criminals.

David

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[+3] - maporsche - 06/28/2010CNN reports that the SCOTUS voted against Chicago and their unconstitutional gun ban. Good day for Chicagoians.

It will be very interesting when the newly applied 2nd Amendment immunity
is combined with the right to travel, on an interstate basis.

David

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It shoud be even more interesting, and more effective,
when the freedom of personal defense and right to travel
r combined with the right of equal protection of the laws.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

I was not aware of slavery in Europe ... Fact is our minimum wages stayed the same the last twenty years (nominaly) due to an un/checked capitalist economy. Social well/fare and medical care are worse now than before. This is western Europe we talk about. We have major problem motivating our youth to take part in society. In sub/urbs the violent American rappers become very populair. Guns are spreading like the plague. You want more of this ? Spend your money on education and a good police/force and support minorities ! Viva La Bama !

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I have always felt safer traveling in Europe than in America - mostly because of crimes and guns. America is infested with criminals who easily obtain weapons and are happy to use them. The worst thing in Europe is some little kid might pick your pocket.

I have a cousin who was recently robbed at gun point in Atlanta, GA. Two guys came up behind him and stuck a gun in ribs just after he took money out of a cash machine. My cousin did not resist when they took his wallet, but they smashed him in the back of his head anyway and he ended up getting 30 stitches. My cousin is in his mid-70's, but he is also a retired police detective and is very familiar with guns and knows how to protect himself, but when someone is standing behind you with a gun under your ribs it's best not to argue. I envy the mostly gun free countries like Scotland, it will never happen in America because of paranoid people like David here.

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@Pepijn Sweep,

Pepijn Sweep wrote:

I was not aware of slavery in Europe ...

Its gone; the nazis n the commies.

Pepijn Sweep wrote:

Fact is our minimum wages stayed the same the last twenty years (nominaly) due to an un/checked capitalist economy.

U have laissez faire capitalism? Where?

Pepijn Sweep wrote:

Social well/fare and medical care are worse now than before. This is western Europe we talk about. We have major problem motivating our youth to take part in society. In sub/urbs the violent American rappers become very populair.

Pepijn Sweep wrote:
Guns are spreading like the plague. You want more of this ?
Yes; MUCH more. I desire that ALL pontential victims be well armed, to the detriment of predators.

Pepijn Sweep wrote:
Spend your money on education and a good police/force and support minorities ! Viva La Bama !

Thay have enuf support already.
I am not going to support them,
but the fact is that most of violent crime
has been inflicted upon those minorities
by members of their own groups.

David

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@Green Witch,

Green Witch wrote:

I have always felt safer traveling in Europe than in America -

I have always FELT safe, no matter WHERE
I 've travelled. On a night when I was shot at, I FELT perfectly safe
and was not thinking of security considerations.
How one FEELS about safety does not necessarily correspond
with the facts of how safe one actually IS.
I 'll bet u $1 that your cousin FELT safe 5 seconds b4
his robbery began.

Green Witch wrote:

mostly because of crimes and guns.

Criminals usually expect their victims to be unarmed,
especially where gun control laws exist.

Green Witch wrote:

America is infested with criminals who easily obtain weapons

Thay can MAKE their own guns, if it comes to that.
I read of a group of criminals in prison who built a fully operational submachinegun
one-part-at-a-time in the prison workshop and assembled it in private.
What is the limit of what thay can do with free access to the hardware stores of America ??

Green Witch wrote:

and are happy to use them. The worst thing in Europe is some little kid might pick your pocket.

There r no robberies in Europe?

Green Witch wrote:

I have a cousin who was recently robbed at gun point in Atlanta, GA.
Two guys came up behind him and stuck a gun in ribs just after
he took money out of a cash machine. My cousin did not resist when
they took his wallet, but they smashed him in the back of his head
anyway and he ended up getting 30 stitches.

Yeah; sometimes after the criminals r captured, thay admit that thay
killed the victims because it was fun, after the victims offered no resistance.

Green Witch wrote:

My cousin is in his mid-70's, but he is also a retired police detective
and is very familiar with guns and knows how to protect himself,

Really? Did he scan the area for apparent bad guys b4 he used the ATM?
Will he use ATMs the same way in the future, or will he adapt his technique ?

I suspect that thay 'd have been a little less likely to have done that
(robbed him or bashed him)
if thay knew that all of the passers-by were likely to be well-armed.

Green Witch wrote:

but when someone is standing behind you with a gun under your ribs it's best not to argue.
I envy the mostly gun free countries like Scotland, it will never happen in America
because of paranoid people like David here.

The Founders were not "paranoid" when thay wrote the Bill of Rights.
I 've said many times: I have been personally armed since the age of 8. Since then, I have upgraded.
My quest is not for myself, but for my fellow citizens. I want to live in a world wherein I am surrounded
by well-armed citizens (openly and covertly), as a matter of course, on a daily basis.
This supports a culture of Individualism, anti-collectivism, anti-communitarianism, and anti-authoritarianism.

Freedom is good. Authoritarianism is bad.

David

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Dave, I too cannot wait until the gun ban in this city is destroyed. Then I can't wait to vote out Daley.

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@OmSigDAVID,

Both nazies as communists were not welcome by the majority. We called it victims of the occupation.

I live in Amsterdam, Capital of the Kingdom of The Netherlands. We have a so/called mixed economy. Liberal to the multi/nationals who hardly pay taxes. Here it´s the working/middle class who pays the bills. Tax/evasions for wealthy people now through the Dutch Antillen.

I see it around me every time; members of a minority getting discriminating looks or worse in the streets. But we should try to include every-one. Everybody is part of a minority. Even Forbes 500 is a minority...

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@maporsche,

maporsche wrote:

Dave, I too cannot wait until the gun ban in this city is destroyed.
Then I can't wait to vote out Daley.

There is only one weekend between us and our goal. Justice Alitio 's law clerks
are probably working on that decision, polishing it up, as we speak.

Hooray!

David

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@Pepijn Sweep,

Pepijn Sweep wrote:

Both nazies as communists were not welcome
by the majority. We called it victims of the occupation.

Very true; horrible. I view gun control the same way. Many innocent people have been killed because of gun control.
In America, when government was being created after we threw out the English (my ancestors)
the Founders said to the new government: OK, u can exist, but on condition that there no gun control. It was agreed,
but 2 centuries later government inflicted gun control upon the innocent population. We are getting rid of it now!!!
We are enforcing the original agreement.

Green Witch wrote:

I live in Amsterdam, Capital of the Kingdom of The Netherlands.

I visited your city a few years ago. I LOVE your city! I had a wonderful time; beautiful canals.
I was able to get along in English. Good Food. I loved your zoo in Amsterdam.
It was a very enjoyable experience! I visited the Ann Frank house and saw her diary.
HOORAY FOR AMSTERDAM!

Green Witch wrote:

We have a so/called mixed economy. Liberal to the multi/nationals who hardly pay taxes.
Here it´s the working/middle class who pays the bills.
Tax/evasions for wealthy people now through the Dutch Antillen.

I wish that we financed all government operations thru sales taxes and thru importation tariffs; nothing else.

Green Witch wrote:

I see it around me every time; members of a minority

The Moslems ?

Green Witch wrote:

getting discriminating looks or worse in the streets.

Well, u know there are so many people and thay all have their own personal opinions.
I learned long ago that not everyone agrees with me about everything.

Green Witch wrote:

But we should try to include every-one. Everybody is part of a minority. Even Forbes 500 is a minority...

Sometimes u can do that; not always, depending on who thay are and what thay intend to DO.

WELCOME, WELCOME to the forum, Pep !

David

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We shoud return to how we were
in the early 1900s: carrying a gun was like wearing a watch; no controversy.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

I think people should have a choice. Or a car, or a gun... Maybe less car/accidents would compensate the casualties with the guns.
Don´t you think the western governments should let banks go bancrupt ? or nationalize at least ? Now the tax/payer is supporting white/collar crime and gambling.

Thanks for the welcome ! I see we don´t agree 100% but that´s what Forums are for I think !

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@OmSigDAVID,

You attributed Pepijn Sweep's comments to Green Witch. She might not like that.

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@roger,

roger wrote:

You attributed Pepijn Sweep's comments to Green Witch. She might not like that.

U r right.
That has never happened b4; I owe her an apology; an accident.

Thank u for calling my attention to that error.

David

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@Pepijn Sweep,

Pepijn Sweep wrote:

I think people should have a choice.

Me too, no one should be forced to own a gun.

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Don´t you think the western governments should let banks go bankrupt?

Yes, for sure. No doubt about it.

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or nationalize at least ?

Hell NO!

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Now the tax/payer is supporting white/collar crime and gambling.

Yes they are, and it's a huge problem as far as I'm concerned.

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@roger,

How do U think I feel to be called a witch... I am new on your forum so I thought it just a nick-name, belonging to someone else I find out.

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@Pepijn Sweep,

Pepijn Sweep wrote:

How do U think I feel to be called a witch... I am new on your forum so I thought it just a nick-name,
belonging to someone else I find out.

Will u settle for a Wizzard ?

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

I am seriously aiming at MAGISTER at some small University

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@maporsche,

Pepijn Sweep wrote:

I think people should have a choice.

maporsche wrote:

Me too, no one should be forced to own a gun.

nor a car

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