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Oz Election Thread #4 - Gillard's Labor

 
 
msolga
 
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Reply Sun 28 Aug, 2011 06:34 pm
@msolga,
No success in finding the original article ... apparently an "opinion" piece/Glenn Milne blog .
However it appears that every News Ltd (Murdoch newspapers in Oz) has published the apology from the Australian.
Jon Faine (ABC radio 774, Melbourne) attempted to interview Julia Gillard this morning about Milne's allegation/s (whatever they were) , but received a press release from the PM's office as a response. He speculated that there may legal action in the pipeline.

Good ol News Ltd, hey?
How ugly can their anti-Gillard/anti-ALP campaign get? Rolling Eyes
msolga
 
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Reply Sun 28 Aug, 2011 07:12 pm
@hingehead,
Companion piece. Wink :

http://images.theage.com.au/2011/08/23/2575998/566690553-600x400.jpg
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 28 Aug, 2011 07:54 pm
@msolga,
I was trying to figure out why the name, Glenn Milne, rang a bell.
So I did a quick bit of Googling.
Of course!
"The Stephen Mayne/Walkley Awards incident"!
How could I ever have forgotten that? Shocked

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hingehead
 
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Reply Sun 28 Aug, 2011 08:07 pm
Milne's long been a twat

I found the article via twitter on newsbank:
http://iw.newsbank.com/iw-search/we/InfoWeb?p_action=doc&p_theme=aggdocs&p_topdoc=1&p_docnum=1&p_sort=YMD_date:D&p_product=AWNB&p_docid=139695D1AF6C9C18&p_text_direct-0=document_id=(%20139695D1AF6C9C18%20)&p_multi=AUSB&s_lang=en-US&p_nbid=P61V4DSEMTMxNDU4MTQ2MC43MjkxNjY6MToxMjoxNTIuOTEuOS4xOTY


Quote:
PM A LOST CAUSE FOR WARRING UNIONS
Australian, The (Australia) - Monday, August 29, 2011
Author: GLENN MILNE
Julia Gillard has lost all authority within the broader Labor movement

THE real import of the alleged brothel creeping scandal surrounding Craig Thomson has been missed. And it is this: key factions and unions within the Labor movement are now openly indifferent to the fate of either Julia Gillard or the federal government. They simply don't care any more.

Gillard has now lost all authority within the broader Labor movement. By their actions in the Thomson saga they have signalled a judgment that she cannot win the next election. Settling internal scores and power struggles is therefore now more important than whatever happens to a lame-duck PM who can't haul her primary voting numbers out of the pathetically fatal mid 20s.

The Mafia-style dirt-covered shovel -- code for digging your own grave -- dumped on Friday at 3.30am on the doorstop of Kathy Jackson, the union official who had the courage to refer Thomson's activities to the police, may as well have been delivered to the Lodge. For Gillard it is now that bad. She is simply regarded as collateral damage and large sections in the Labor movement are uninterested about whether she's terminally wounded or not as they go about their internal bloodletting. It is about to get worse as elements of the Australian Workers' Union seek to settle up with Thomson's accusers by demonstrating that Gillard herself was implicated, albeit unknowingly, in a major union fraud of her own before she entered parliament.

On Friday, Michael Smith of 2UE contacted me to check the veracity of material in a statutory declaration drawn up by Bob Kernohan, the former president of the AWU, and dealing with the relationship between Gillard and Bruce Wilson, which I outline below.

On Saturday, Herald Sun and Daily Telegraph columnist Andrew Bolt wrote on his blog: ``On Monday, I'm tipping, a witness with a statutory declaration will come forward and implicate Julia Gillard directly in another scandal involving the misuse of union funds. Gillard herself is not accused of any misbehaviour at all. I do not make that claim, and do not hold that belief. But her judgment -- and that of at least one of her ministers -- will come under severe question. She will seem compromised. It could be the last straw for Gillard's leadership.''

Big call. But I do have a good deal of knowledge regarding Bolt's claims. On Sunday November 11, 2007, just days before the November 24 election I interviewed Gillard, then deputy leader of the opposition, in my capacity as political editor for News Limited's Sunday newspapers. The interview concerned the embezzlement of union funds -- not disputed -- and later the subject of a court conviction by a former boyfriend of Gillard, Bruce Wilson. I had researched the piece for months. It was the most heavily lawyered article I have ever been involved in writing. The story said that as a solicitor acting on instructions, she set up an association later used by her lover to defraud the AWU. But she has strenuously denied ever knowing what the association's bank accounts were used for.

Gillard, then in her early 30s, was a lawyer with Melbourne-based Labor firm Slater & Gordon. At the time of the fraud she acted for the AWU. She met Wilson, then the West Australian AWU secretary, while representing the union in the Industrial Relations Commission. Wilson later moved to Melbourne to become Victorian secretary of the union.

``These matters happened between 12 and 15 years ago,'' Gillard told me. ``I was young and naive. I was in a relationship, which I ended, and obviously it was all very distressing. I am by no means the first person to find out that someone close turns out to be different to what you had believed them to be. It's an ordinary human error.

``I was obviously hurt, when I was later falsely accused publicly of wrongdoing. I didn't do anything wrong and to have false allegations in the media was distressing.''

What the lawyers would not allow to be reported was the fact that Gillard shared a home in Fitzroy bought by Wilson using the embezzled funds. There is or was no suggestion Gillard knew about the origin of the money. We now await the issue to which Bolt refers.

If it comes, and if it is powerful as Bolt suggests, it will be further evidence that the Victorian Right represented by the AWU is involved in a life and death struggle with the Right as represented by the Hospital Services Union. Thomson was a senior official of the HSU for 20 years before entering parliament via the seat of Dobell.

The HSU split several years ago into two factions. Thomson was supported by Jeff Jackson, Kathy Jackson's former husband. This so-called old guard was the support base for Victorian right-wing power boss, David Feeney. Feeney is now looking for a parliamentary seat because Gillard's abysmal numbers have made his third Senate spot vulnerable.

A defeat for the old guard by way of a successful prosecution of Thomson by police, would leave Feeney powerless and without a base or a seat.

Jackson himself has been accused of using union money on escorts with enemies of the Victorian HSU boss releasing bank statements showing payments to the same Sydney brothel where federal MP Thomson's credit card was allegedly used. Jackson has denied the claims. Ultimately at issue here could be the succession to Gillard, and I'll explain why.

When Kathy Jackson called in the wallopers, the stakes were high. Because a federal defeat for Thomson and his allies would enhance the power base of Victoria's two other factional king makers, Bill Shorten and Stephen Conroy who are both aligned with the new guard in the HSU. And we all know what Shorten's ultimate ambition is.

What a tangled web we weave especially when you consider Thomson is married to Zoe Arnold, a former Transport Workers Union official and adviser to former NSW Health Minister Reba Meagher. Alex Williamson, daughter of HSU national president Mike Williamson, is an adviser to Gillard. And, of course, as mentioned, Kathy Jackson, who blew the whistle on Thomson, was married to former Victorian state HSU secretary Jeff Jackson.

Truly the NSW Disease has arrived in Canberra.

Meanwhile amid all this interbred internecine manoeuvring Gillard attempts to adopt the high ground, attacking shadow attorney-general George Brandis for intervening in the course of justice. On Thursday morning Gillard attacked Brandis for speaking to NSW Police Minister Michael Gallacher at a time when the allegations against Thomson were being assessed by NSW Police. Unfortunately she got her facts wrong because the NSW police only announced they were conducting an assessment four days after Brandis spoke to Gallacher and in fact only got Brandis's dossier three days after he spoke to Gallacher.

A small point but one that indicates the pressure is beginning to show on Gillard as she desperately searches for points of deflection. During the same press conference she also vainly tried to defend Thomson's decision not to make a statement to the parliament on the facts. We all know why; if he lies he's finished as an MP and Gillard is washed up as Prime Minister. Gillard and Thomson are shackled together just as surely as two First Fleet convicts.

Oh, and here's a small postscript on which to end. On September 7 at the Wyong Christian School at 2pm there will be the opening of a new hall built with funds from Gillard's time overseeing the Building the Education Revolution. Thomson is scheduled to attend as the local member. My gut instinct is that both he and the Prime Minister will be otherwise engaged.
Edition: 1 - All-round Country
Section: Features
Page: 014
Record Number: AUS_T-20110829-1-014-519715
Copyright, 2011, Nationwide News Pty Limited
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PM A LOST CAUSE FOR WARRING UNIONS
msolga
 
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Reply Sun 28 Aug, 2011 08:19 pm
@hingehead,
You found it, hinge.
Excellent work!
I think the article has actually been withdrawn from the Australian.

Hmmm, I see why News Ltd is apologising unreservedly.
I see Milne quotes Andrew Bolt. What a surprise. Rolling Eyes
Sleaze & innuendo.
Despicable.
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hingehead
 
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Reply Sun 28 Aug, 2011 09:56 pm
Just saw this and LOL'd

Good news for the ALP - apparently they CAN organise a **** in a brothel.
msolga
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2011 05:11 pm
@hingehead,
Ha!


Hey, check this out.
Freshly published in today's Drum (ABC comment)
Fascinating, absolutely fascinating!

So there is actually quite a bit of satisfaction out there in the electorate with most of Labor's policies.
You wouldn't think so, if you went by what we're told in the media, would you?
Just goes to show how different perceptions can be from the reality. Even in the minds of a mostly satisfied electorate.
How does that happen?
Strange state of affairs, hey?

The question for Labor is how can it capitalize on the approval of most of its policy initiatives in this atmosphere of total negativity & hostility toward the government?

And perhaps someone should send a copy of this piece to our political commentators in the media, to remind them to (occasionally, at least! Rolling Eyes ) comment on government policy developments, rather than continually presenting this government's term of office as some sort of "prizefight" !


Quote:
30 August 2011
Good news PM, there is still some love in the room
Peter Lewis/the Drum/ABC

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/image/2861718-16x9-340x191.jpg

The sad irony for a Government struggling for love is that the disputed use of a credit card to fill the emotional void of person or persons unnamed now threatens to end its rule prematurely.

But the bittersweet truth for the Gillard Government is that, while they are being absolutely smashed politically, the bulk of their policies actually have broad public support.


This week's Essential Report shows that, save asylum seekers and climate change, just about everything the government has done since the last election and is planning to do is if it maintains power is backed by the electorate.


Quote:
Q. Thinking about what the Labor Government has done over the last few years, do you approve or disapprove of the following Government actions?
Total approve -Total disapprove

Increased funding of health services 89% (total approve) - 5% (total disapprove)

Increasing the age pension 78% - 14%

Increasing superannuation to 12% 75% - 13%

Managing the economy to keep unemployment and interest rates low 70% - 21%

Spending on new school buildings 68% - 24%

Introducing a national disability insurance scheme 63% - 13%

Stimulus spending to tackle the GFC 61% - 28%

Paid parental leave 60% - 30%

Introducing a tax on large profits of mining companies 58% - 29%

Building the NBN (National Broadband Network) 54% - 34%

Stopping live cattle exports until welfare concerns were addressed 53% - 34%

Abolished WorkChoices 51% - 33%

Sending asylum seekers to Malaysia 39% - 45%

Introducing a carbon tax to tackle climate change 33% -53%


Critically, key areas fiercely opposed by Tony Abbott are supported with equal vigour by the voting public.

School buildings
- Building an Education Revolution may be seen an acronym for government waste for rampant waste to the Opposition, most punters just see new school buildings.

Superannuation – contingent on the mining tax, but the idea of preparing for an aging population of Baby Boomers and minimising the tax burden for the rest of us, seems like a good idea.

National Disability Insurance Scheme – the Liberals are still to make a call on this one, but the government support for a scheme to revolutionise the delivery of disability services, gets a big tick.

Mining Tax – with BHP earning more than Australia's GDP, support is swinging behind a mining tax, as the collapse in manufacturing make more and more people question whether the slick ads about mining keeping the country strong are more than just self-serving hype.

Stimulus spending – 'Deficit' may be a dirty word in Canberra, but most Australians think the stimulus package played no small role in saving our bacon.

The NBN – the Liberals call it a massive White Elephant, but the public have embraced this 21st century infrastructure project.

Abolishing WorkChoices – the policy that dare not speak its name; and isn't it refreshing to see Peter Reith back out on the hustings?

Now some of you will accuse me of giving some of these policy initiatives a positive spin, but that's the job of government; and on each of these issues a proposition duly presented gets endorsement.

So what's going wrong? Where's the disconnect? There's no shortage of theories floating around.


Credit the Opposition: for running negative at every turn. The fury and white noise that defines this Parliament leaves little room for considered policy debate and there is no doubt that Tony Abbott has been dogged in keeping attention on Labor's few policy negatives.

Blame the media: for reporting it like it's a prizefight. There is no doubt that the traditional conventions that governments sets the media agenda has fallen away; that's because a minority government is only ever one vote away from oblivion.

Look in the mirror:
for your failure to communicate your positives and your propensity to get waded down in the negatives. And throw in a little self-reflection for your lack of a story that holds all these popular measures together.

And rail against the Gods: for making the whole show how unwieldy, because sometimes governments are just cursed with tough luck.

But do not kid yourself that the broad policy agenda is the problem. This is not a love-less relationship, just one that needs a little TLC.

Peter Lewis is a director of Essential Media Communications (EMC).


http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/2861686.html
hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2011 08:34 pm
@msolga,
No doubt the Bolts, Akkermans, Albrechtsens of the UnAustralian will be saying that's a paid political ad courtesy of the ABC.

I've also seen a number of analysts bemoan the fact that there were no infrastucture or productivity investments during the boom times of the Howard years - a point Keating made prior to the 2007 election.

We live in hope.

Interesting that the pokie bill and plain packaging of cancer sticks weren't asked about - I'd be interested to see where the public sits on those issues. I wonder if labor could shake up a few country electorates by campaigning on the LNP killing the NBN - it's very loved out here in the boosh.
msolga
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2011 09:47 pm
@hingehead,
Quote:
No doubt the Bolts, Akkermans, Albrechtsens of the UnAustralian will be saying that's a paid political ad courtesy of the ABC.

Well of course they would.
It's their job to say that.
I doubt Rupert would keep them on the payroll if they suddenly changed their tune, even considered another perspective. Neutral

Me, I just needed to be reminded of what this minority government had actually achieved, under extreme duress.
It was an eye opener to see the policy details listed like that, along with the approval/disapproval ratings.

I think we've all been a little bit brainwashed by the non-stop media negativity ... & the focus on the Abbott-instituted endless bunfight, at the expense of all else.
Even Kate Grenville, on last night's Q&A, was almost apologetic about defending Labor .. "Well someone has to speak up for the government here ..." (or something along very similar lines.)

It is almost as if it's a faux pas, totally removed from the commonly perceived wisdom, to give the government any slack, any credit ....

The point is, the government has produced some good policies which people appear to be happy with ... yet at the same time all we hear from the vocal detrators is that the PM is a "liar" & that she is "ruining the country" & "must be stopped".
I'm certain there would be considerable community anger if some of those Labor policies (pension increases, health initiatives, etc) weren't honoured by a new Liberal government, if it came to that. <shudder>

Weird stuff, very strange.

Quote:
I've also seen a number of analysts bemoan the fact that there were no infrastucture or productivity investments during the boom times of the Howard years - a point Keating made prior to the 2007 election.

Yes, me too.
And I can recall Keating saying that.

Quote:
Interesting that the pokie bill and plain packaging of cancer sticks weren't asked about - I'd be interested to see where the public sits on those issues. I wonder if labor could shake up a few country electorates by campaigning on the LNP killing the NBN - it's very loved out here in the boosh.

Probably because neither have actually happened yet, or that's my best guess. But I'd be interested to know, too.

Now that's an interesting thought, hinge. How would country voters respond if they believed a Liberal government could jeopardize the NBN? They would definitely not be pleased, but would that alter their voting intentions in these brainwashed times?
Hard to tell.

I was very disappointed in the approval ratings of the carbon reduction policy. I don't think too many understand how it will actually work. Though I suspect quite a few of them would be very pissed off if their tax breaks were removed by Abbott & co!

Labor is not exactly winning on selling it's real achievements on that one, is it?
msolga
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2011 10:11 pm
And now for some comic relief after all that seriousness ..

He wouldn't do it, would he?
"Sell his arse" to become PM, I mean?
Surely not! Wink

HaHa, decide for yourself!

Here's what Tandberg & some AGE "letters" page contributors think.:


Quote:
http://images.theage.com.au/2011/08/29/2589906/art-tandberg1-420x0.jpg


IT MUST be hard for an honest man like Tony Abbott to have people telling the same ''lies'' about him. His great consolation is that such lies get him what he most loves - publicity.

John Walsh, Watsonia


SO ABBOTT would put everything on the table to be prime minister. Must feel good to confess.

Vanda Drazenovic, Sandringham


I WAS relieved to hear that Abbott has flatly denied the assertion that he once stated he would be willing to sell his arse to be prime minister. Who on earth would want to buy it ?

Ron Huttner, Armadale


http://www.theage.com.au/national/letters
msolga
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2011 10:16 pm
@msolga,
Quote:

Abbott rejects sell-out claims
Updated August 28, 2011 18:15:06

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott has rejected claims he told independent MP Tony Windsor that the only thing he would not do to become prime minister is "sell his arse".

Mr Windsor made the claim during a series of interviews marking the anniversary of the independents' decision to back a Labor minority government.

He says he felt alarm and pity when Mr Abbott revealed how badly he wanted the top job. ...<cont>


Abbott rejects sell-out claims:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-08-28/abbott-rejects-call-about-selling-arse/2859090/?site=sydney
hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2011 10:31 pm
@msolga,
Quote:
Labor is not exactly winning on selling it's real achievements on that one, is it?


I guess it's tough when the people you're selling to rely on outlets opposed to you or that feed off news cycles generated by media outlets opposed to you.

I can't believe how little traction that extra 1 million people won't have to fill in a tax return has got. That's just nuts.
hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2011 10:32 pm
@msolga,
Why not? He sold his soul, his arse will follow.
msolga
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2011 10:43 pm
@hingehead,
You may have a very valid point there, hinge! Smile Wink
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2011 11:38 pm
@hingehead,
Quote:
I guess it's tough when the people you're selling to rely on outlets opposed to you or that feed off news cycles generated by media outlets opposed to you.

I can't believe how little traction that extra 1 million people won't have to fill in a tax return has got. That's just nuts.

Oh I know, I know, I know !
(sigh)

This situation is sounding so much like US Tea Party propaganda tactics that it's really giving me the creeps.

People who would actually benefit (& quite rightly so) from legitimate, perfectly respectable government policies which would make their lives more manageable, are complaining about how much more difficult this government is making their lives.

They are being used, cynically manipulated, by the powerful interests who couldn't give a **** about their lives. For the obvious reasons.

An extremely depressing state of affairs, the consequences of which they'll only fully comprehend when they have actually elected a more conservative government ... which will only then reveal its real agenda.

Honestly, some times you could weep.

The trouble is, their decision on the next election day is going to effect all of us.

On the credit side, Peter Lewis's article in the Drum now has something like 107 responses.
They all turned up at pretty much the same time.
I posted my response hours ago & was wondering if there was no interest at all ...
I guess Auntie's understaffed.
So what else is new?


Good news PM, there is still some love in the room:
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/2861686.html
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dlowan
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2011 03:05 am
@msolga,
I thought it was his arm?
msolga
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2011 05:57 am
@dlowan,
Smile

No, it was definitely his arse he was offering to sell in exchange for the independents' endorsement.

Why would Andrew Wilkie & co be interested in buying his arm? Razz

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msolga
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2011 06:09 am
Goodness me, that discussion still appears to be up & running!
286 comments so far.

Good news PM, there is still some love in the room:
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/2861686.html
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msolga
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2011 06:29 am
Smile

Today's Nicholson:

http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2011/08/30/1226125/853092-110831-nicholson.jpg
msolga
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2011 06:34 am
@msolga,
Today's Moir.:

http://images.theage.com.au/2011/08/29/2589743/port-300811-moir-600x400.jpg
 

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