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Oz Election Thread #4 - Gillard's Labor

 
 
hingehead
 
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Reply Tue 8 Feb, 2011 09:55 pm
@msolga,
I was thinking it had parallels to all the facetime Julia got as acting PM under Kevin....
msolga
 
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Reply Tue 8 Feb, 2011 10:02 pm
@hingehead,
Yes indeed!

A thought: Julia was actually a far more effective communicator when she was acting PM.
She was pretty impressive, as I recall.
Maybe too many minders & advisers (with dubious influence) these days?



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msolga
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2011 05:28 pm
Quote:

Rough days on a rolling campaign to nowhere
By Barrie Cassidy
Posted Wed Feb 9, 2011 5:27pm AEDT

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/201102/r715638_5639881.jpg
Opposition Leader Tony Abbott faces off with Channel Seven reporter Mark Riley at Parliament House on February 8, 2011. (Channel Seven)

Have any two political leaders ever simultaneously polarised the electorate in the way that Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott demonstrably do right now?

And has there ever been so much political savagery and manic participation from political partisans in this part of the political cycle, maybe the best part of three years away from the next federal election?

The response to the Prime Minister's tearful tribute to the many people who lost their lives in the Queensland flood was a case in point. Very few people, no matter how wooden or robotic, could get to their feet in a public forum and detail the circumstances of the heart wrenching deaths without breaking up. Yet in Gillard's home town, The Herald Sun ran 23 letters, all but four of them condemning her.

"Crocodile tears." "What a crock." "Oscar winning act." "Oh, par-leeze. Resorting to the old throw a few tears trick." "Oh cripes. I just chucked all over my keyboard."

Nobody other than a mindless partisan could watch and judge Gillard's speech in such a way. Certainly Tony Abbott did not, saying of her that she had shown "a decent heart."

But that is the prevailing political mood. It's ugly. It seems as if the country is in a rolling election campaign with every nuance amplified and argued hysterically, particularly in the social media. Perhaps that's because so many people feel that the last federal election resolved nothing and that surely a second judgement day is just around the corner.

There was a similar response to Abbott's "**** happens" remark. The partisans jumped out of the blocks, seeing it as grossly insensitive; further evidence that he is unfit for high office.

But think of the context. He was talking not about the death of a particular soldier, but the circumstances in which soldiers are killed.

The Defence Minister, Stephen Smith, said on the ABC's AM program "that in the terrible and difficult circumstances of the fog of war…often bad things happen."

That has precisely the same meaning as "**** happens." The difference is, Smith chose his words carefully for national radio. Abbott expressed himself in front of soldiers in the theatre of war, with a camera virtually eavesdropping on the conversation. But the partisans cut him no slack.

However, his handling of the matter is another story.

The Network Seven exclusive would have been exclusively on Seven, but for Abbott's response.

He had nothing to fear. All he had to do was explain the context and reassure the soldier's family that he meant no disrespect. Even government ministers conceded that Abbott had not intended to cause offence.

But given more than two hours notice of the details of the story, he strolled down to a parliamentary courtyard and subjected himself to a viewing of the videotape, with two cameras rolling. Then he gave a cursory response, followed by a bizarre and elongated silent stare, all the while giving the impression that he was tossing up whether he could flatten the reporter and still remain in politics.

Why on earth didn't his office simply demand to privately view the tape, and then calmly and sensibly think through his response? Why was he so ill prepared?

The Coalition was supposed to swagger back into Canberra ready to tear the government apart. But that hasn't happened. When question time finally rolled around, they had nothing. The politics of the levy are slipping away from them. How is it that given the terrible travails of the government since the "new paradigm" evolved, the Coalition has not opened up a substantial lead? And how is it that when Essential Media asked 12 questions related to character traits and capability, Gillard beat Abbott in every one of them?

These are rough days for a government still finding its way and crippled by a history of wasteful spending, and yet the opposition seems incapable of exploiting any of it.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/02/09/3134481.htm
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2011 05:33 pm
@msolga,
Interesting. I will have to go back and look at that story. In the U.S. the coverage of her, what little there was, was positive.
msolga
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2011 05:42 pm
@realjohnboy,
Good morning, rjb.
It's the silly feuding season here. Not much substance to be found in the media.
Lots of people appear to not have accepted the result of the last election.
And it looks like ongoing petty nit-picking (of the two party leaders), over the most trivial of things, is the order of the day.
Really exciting. Neutral
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2011 05:54 pm
@msolga,
By the way, thanks for weighing in on the Egypt thread. I follow whatever my friend JPB says closely. She is good as are a few other folks. It goes down hill quickly after that.
msolga
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2011 05:58 pm
@realjohnboy,
Yep, she's been good, I agree.
Thanks, rjb.
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hingehead
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2011 06:47 pm
@msolga,
Thanks for posting that Olgs - I thought 'finally a journo showing some intelligence' then I read the byline! It's boyfriend! (as me and Mrs Hinge refer to Barrie Cassidy - courtesy of a work colleague who talks about her regular sunday morning get together with her craggy-faced 'boyfriend'.
msolga
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2011 07:13 pm
@hingehead,
Ha!
Please inform Mrs Hinge I share her affliction ... I'm very partial to ol craggy features myself. Smile

How could I not be?
He's one of the best!
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laughoutlood
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2011 09:11 pm
@hingehead,
Quote:
It's boyfriend!


Without context this excerpt could cause consternation in other corridors of grammar discussion.
hingehead
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2011 09:19 pm
@laughoutlood,
Should I have used a capital 'B'?
laughoutlood
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2011 09:42 pm
@hingehead,
Not at this juncture.
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 12 Feb, 2011 11:17 pm
Quote:
Video:Clarke and Dawe back on deck
Source: 7.30 Report
Published: Thursday, February 10, 2011 7:56 AEDT
Expires: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 7:56 AEDT

John Clarke and Bryan Dawe return for 2011 with their take on Tony Abbott's media stoush.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/video/2011/02/10/3135743.htm
hingehead
 
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Reply Sun 13 Feb, 2011 06:00 am
@msolga,
Freaking brilliant - did you catch the Bolt apologistic calisthenics on the insiders this morning.
msolga
 
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Reply Sun 13 Feb, 2011 06:04 am
@hingehead,
But that end bit was a bit disconcerting!
Agh.

No, I didn't catch Andrew, hinge.
So what was he apologizing about?
(He has quite a bit to apologise for, so it could be any number of things.)
hingehead
 
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Reply Sun 13 Feb, 2011 06:12 am
@msolga,
He may as well have been a paid Liberal party spin doctor - Channel 7 played the ultimate gotcha - reprehensible beyond all excuse. Tony was ambushed more than any other politician ever.

I was actually motivated to comment on Bolt's blog - but reading the 'approved' comments I'm guessing I won't get published.
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/media_is_as_silent_as_abbott_was_but_with_less_exucse/#commentsmore


I watched Julia live on 24 re COAG on health reform. She's back in town.
hingehead
 
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Reply Sun 13 Feb, 2011 06:13 am
@msolga,
Can you move a bit closer so I can respond properly?
hingehead
 
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Reply Sun 13 Feb, 2011 06:15 am
@msolga,
My comment that won't ever appear on the Bolt blog.
Quote:
Andrew, you were particularly sad today - obfuscate all you like, Tony Abbott was definitely not disrepecting our soldiers, but that reaction tells the electorate exactly what they can expect from Mr Abbott - calling it a Latham moment is apropos, one can envision Tony and Mark toe to toe on a rugby field playing mirror images of that painful 30 seconds. Don't ever call yourself a journalist if you can't see that your heart was ruling your head this morning in your reactions.

msolga
 
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Reply Sun 13 Feb, 2011 06:27 am
@hingehead,
So those ABC Marxists have been at it again on the Insiders?
What a disgrace!Razz

And as for Andrew Bolt... slithery, slimy little devil, isn't he?

Quote:
I watched Julia live on 24 re COAG on health reform. She's back in town

I hope so.
Not a moment too soon, hey?

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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 13 Feb, 2011 06:29 am
@hingehead,
Quote:
Can you move a bit closer so I can respond properly?


I still recovering from watching that once! Laughing
 

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