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Oz Election Thread #4 - Gillard's Labor

 
 
msolga
 
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Reply Sat 1 Sep, 2012 01:38 am
@hingehead,
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My inner schoolboy thought it funny she didn't mention eating.

Somehow missed this before, hinge.
My inner schoolgirl thought the very same thing at the time.
But I was much too polite to say! Wink Laughing
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Bootlace
 
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Reply Sat 1 Sep, 2012 01:21 pm
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It's obscene for someone with inherited wealth, whose business is subsidised by government, to criticise low-paid workers
Two numbers pretty much sum up all that is wrong with political debate in Australia: Gina Rinehart earns the annual full-time minimum wage every 53 seconds and, at the peak of the mining boom, the industry contributed only about 0.5 per cent of Commonwealth government revenue.


Nice to see things put in perspective.
The full article here :-
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/opinion/a-bit-rich-ginas-call-a-hard-act-to-swallow-20120831-256cb.html<br />
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 2 Sep, 2012 03:16 am
Just got home not long ago & am catching up with this morning's Insiders on the ABC.
A few (video) segments from the program, for those of you who missed it.:

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The panel discuss Australia's role in Afghanistan and whether it is worth staying involved in the war.

http://www.abc.net.au/insiders/content/2012/s3581096.htm
msolga
 
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Reply Sun 2 Sep, 2012 03:19 am
From Qld. One of the shortest "honeymoon" periods in recent Oz political history?

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The panel take a look at polling in Queensland which shows a massive drop in popularity for the Newman Government.

http://www.abc.net.au/insiders/content/2012/s3581105.htm
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 2 Sep, 2012 03:22 am
Finally....
(I thought Jon Stewart's response was much funnier.)
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Clint Eastwood's address to a chair at the Republican convention in Florida was parodied on The Colbert Report.

http://www.abc.net.au/insiders/content/2012/s3581130.htm
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 2 Sep, 2012 06:45 am
@msolga,
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 2 Sep, 2012 05:06 pm
Well let's hope so.
About time!:

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Government schools are expected to be the big winners when Prime Minister Julia Gillard announces the Government's response to the Gonski report later today.

The Gonski review into school funding recommended the Government spend an extra $5 billion on public and private schools, allocate money on a per student basis, and give more funding to schools in poorer areas.

Gillard to outline school funding shake-up:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-09-02/gillard-to-reveal-gonski-response/4238984
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hingehead
 
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Reply Wed 5 Sep, 2012 09:09 pm
I've just had a thought that I could easily be perceived as proselytising for the ALP govt. Just for the record, they have done some stupid things. The primary reason I will vote for them is because I believe an unfettered LNP govt will be a disaster. Right. That said:

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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 8 Sep, 2012 07:18 pm
Sigh.
Well what can you say to this?
Every single Ausralian internet user should forfeit (even more of) their privacy so that ASIO & the police can fight "terrorists & criminals" more effectively?

Outrageous overreaction, surely?

Neutral

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The Federal Government has proposed a major expansion of national security powers, which would make it easier for law enforcement and intelligence agencies to track what all Australians are up to on the internet.

One of the most controversial proposals is to require internet service providers to retain data on their customers web use for two years. ...


Attorney General makes case for widespread internet tracking:
http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2012/s3582292.htm


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The idea is currently being considered by a parliamentary committee, and Ms Roxon insists there would be strict privacy measures in place to make sure the information is only used by crime-fighting agencies when it is needed.

But the plan has drawn the ire of many, including Greens Senator Scott Ludlum, who says the move to mandatory data collection is an invasion of privacy.

"These proposals are a sweeping expansion of surveillance powers," he said.

Liberal MP Steve Ciobo has taken an even tougher stance.

"I think that this proposal is akin to tactics that we would have seen utilised by the Gestapo," he said.

Ms Roxon says the Government is yet to make a final decision about whether to proceed.

"The intention behind the proposed reform is to allow law enforcement agencies to continue investigating crime in light of new technologies," Ms Roxon told a security in government conference yesterday.

"The loss of this capability would be a major blow to our law enforcement agencies and to Australia's national security."

Senator Ludlam says Ms Roxon has effectively pre-empted the work of the committee and declared the Government's support for the plan.

"The proposal is absolutely outrageous (and) I can't understand why the Attorney-General hasn't at least waited for the committee to do its work," he said.

He says it would effectively mean the roll-out of real-time surveillance of everyone in Australia.

Data-retention plan likened to Gestapo tactics:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-09-05/data-retention-plan-likened-to-gestapo-tactics/4243402


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Proposed national security laws allowing web histories to be stored prompted a protest from hacker group Anonymous in which they stole customer information from an Australian company, so what are the laws and how do the people whose information has been stolen feel?


7:30 Report VIDEO:Anonymous attack protests web laws, catches innocents:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-01/anonymous-attack-protests-web-laws-catches/4170448

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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2012 01:55 am
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Prime Minister Julia Gillard has revealed that Australia's embassy in Moscow complained about the jailing of the punk rock band Pussy Riot last month.

Interesting.
Pity Australian governments have not been nearly so forthcoming in defending their own citizens in political strife & danger abroad ... like David Hicks, Mamdouh Habib (at Guantanomo Bay) & more recently, Julian Assange.

Gillard in Russia for APEC summit:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-09-07/gillard-touches-down-russia-for-apec/4249800
Builder
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2012 03:43 am
Let's just stay on track with vetoing the TPP. Everything else is by the wayside for mine, Miss Olga.

This is way worse than anything else on the plate at this point in time, for mine.
msolga
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2012 04:00 am
@Builder,
Could you tell us a bit more about your concerns, Builder?
Builder
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2012 04:19 am
@msolga,

Try here first. There's no shortage of links out there.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120822/12211720127/infographic-shows-why-you-should-be-worried-about-tpp-what-you-can-do.shtml
msolga
 
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Reply Sun 9 Sep, 2012 04:49 am
@Builder,
Thanks, Builder.
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hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2012 12:38 am
David Maher on young Tony Abbott's time as a student politician (now I get 'mad monk')

Long before he became an energetic, hardline, right-wing parliamentarian, Tony Abbott was an energetic, hardline, right-wing student activist. Here, David Marr details the federal Opposition Leader's years as a reactionary Catholic warrior on campuses across the country.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/early-elections-20120903-2593o.html#ixzz262vsccBI
msolga
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2012 05:49 pm
@hingehead,
I read that yesterday hinge & was going to post it here, too.
But you beat me to the punch.
Abbott appears to have a few things in common (aggression-wise) to Mark Latham, doesn't he? (Though Latham actually had some policies up his sleeve.)
I predict a rash of warm, caring Tony stories very soon .. in the Womens Weekly, etc ... about how much he cares very deeply about "women's issues" & what a great dad he is to his daughters, etc, etc, etc .... bet you they're being written as I type! Wink
hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2012 06:21 pm
@msolga,
Indeed they do. They played rugby against each other too, I recall. No love lost. Both Sydney uni alumni, although Latham shares my background, outer western suburbs, public school, single mother, as opposed to Abbott's 'shorey' privileged position.

Am wondering what Abbott, as a person, is like - empathy-wise. We view him through the prism of others, but he seems to lack in this area.
msolga
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2012 07:53 pm
@hingehead,
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Am wondering what Abbott, as a person, is like - empathy-wise. We view him through the prism of others, but he seems to lack in this area.

You think so? Wink
I'm thinking Maher's article holds the clue.
With his boyo mates at university (who referred to him with great affection as "Abbo") I suspect that there'd be major empathy going on!
He was a head-kicker way back then & I'd reckon politically he's remained a head-kicker.
He appeals to head-kickers (like Alan Jones& co) because they see his ruthless aggression as strength, he's an all or nothing, black & white, no shades between sort of person .... as opposed to more wishy-washy "thinkers" & people who are prepared to reconsider their positions, consult & listen to others ...
I doubt that he's capable of empathizing with people who aren't cut from the same cloth as he is, he'd have no respect for them because he knows what's right. And he's prepared to do anything to win (as Wilkie has told us).
He's as inflexible & as certain of himself as Santamaria was, & on a very similar mission.
His problem is that he can't come right out & declare what he really thinks/stands for because he'd alienate too many voters, particularly women.
I think that's why he sometimes gets himself tied up in verbal knots, trying to sound "reasonable" to others he has little respect for ... also why he avoids indepth interviews, Q & A, etc (he should never had done that Leigh Sales interview! Wink ).... because he can't allow himself to be himself, to be spontaneous, to say what he really thinks. That's just one of the reasons everything he says is so tightly scripted, I think.

I recall that Latham's aggression, his "character flaws" became a big issue at the time. I'm wondering if Abbott's will, too.
Depends on Rupert's media outlets, as usual, I guess? Neutral
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2012 09:46 pm
Very good news!
Well done, GetUp! Very Happy

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Government to legislate to stop super trawlers
By chief political correspondent Simon Cullen/ABC News
Updated 4 minutes ago


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The Abel Tasman will now be prevented from fishing in Australian waters for up to two years. (Greenpeace)

The super trawler Abel Tasman will be prevented from fishing in Australian waters until new scientific research is carried out, in a bid to appease community concern about the ship.

Cabinet signed off on the plan last night in the face of growing unrest on the Labor backbench which would have culminated in a private member's bill being put forward to ban the trawler.


Seafish Tasmania brought the trawler to Australia to fish for a near 18,000-tonne quota of jack mackerel and redbait.

Environment Minister Tony Burke had already imposed restrictions on the trawler to try to limit the number of dolphins, seals and sea lions being caught.

But now he says he will introduce legislation to Parliament today that will extend his legal powers under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act (EPBC), allowing him to order more scientific research to assess the impact of the trawler on Australia's oceans.


"There has never been a fishing vessel of this capacity in Australia before and the EPBC Act needs to be updated so that it can deal with it," Mr Burke said.

"If we get this wrong there are risks to the environment, to commercial operators and to everyone who loves fishing and they are risks I am not prepared to take."

Mr Burke says the legislation will give him the power to stop the Abel Tasman fishing in Commonwealth waters for up to two years while an expert panel is set up to assess the environmental impact.
Destructive or sustainable?

The size of the Margiris, now named Abel Tasman, has sparked fears it will decimate fish stocks.

But Australia's fishing regulator says the trawler's quota is based on sound science.

So will the super trawler devastate a region, or will its catch be a drop in the ocean?

ABC News Online takes a look at both sides of the debate here.

He says research will be undertaken in an "open and transparent" way to restore public confidence in the process.

Mr Burke says the issue was not the size of the ship's fishing quota but rather its ability to stay for an extended period of time in the same area which increases the risk of large-scale localised by-catch.

The Abel Tasman was seeking approval from the Australian Fisheries Management Authority to operate in Australia.

Chief executive James Findlay has previously defended the Abel Tasman, arguing there was no reason to single out this particular ship.

"With catch limits in place, there is no evidence that larger boats pose a higher risk to either the fish stock or the broader marine ecosystem," Mr Findlay wrote last week.

"The net on this boat is similar in size to nets currently operating in the Australian fishing fleet - the only reason the boat is so much larger than other fishing boats is that it has the factory and freezer storage on board."
'Unprecedented campaign'

The ship's presence in Australia has sparked a fierce campaign from conservation and community groups, including GetUp!.

Its environmental campaign director, Paul Oosting, has welcomed the Government's intervention.

"This super trawler would not have just killed fish, it would also have killed a significant number of protected species," he said.

"For example, under the proposed conditions for fishing the super trawler could have legally killed up to 10 seals a day.

"That is not acceptable."

The Abel Tasman is operated by a joint venture between Seafish Tasmania and a Dutch fishing company.

Seafish Tasmania has a quota of nearly 17,800 tonnes for the 2012-13 financial year out of a total quota in the fishery of 36,300 tonnes.


Government to legislate to stop super trawlers:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-09-11/government-to-legislate-to-stop-super-trawlers/4254626

hingehead
 
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Reply Tue 11 Sep, 2012 07:15 pm
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