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Do you believe in ghosts/life after death?

 
 
rosborne979
 
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Reply Mon 21 Jun, 2010 05:21 pm
@Krumple,
Krumple wrote:
Wait a minute, what the hell is a brick doing just randomly placed in a hotel? Oh and this is a show right? How do you know they didn't ask the boom operator to toss the brick? Yes I know, I am skeptical by nature but I am not going to accept the fact that some hotel has random bricks laying around that ghosts like to pick up and throw around. You know if I was a ghost, that is what I would do, hang out in some hotel and toss bricks around.

Here's the scene. The "brick" takes flight at 1:10 into the clip.


The only problem is that it's not a brick. If you slow it down and watch its movement carefully you can see the flutter of wings. It's a bat. And it scared the **** out of the guy on the show... pretty funny actually Laughing
Krumple
 
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Reply Mon 21 Jun, 2010 05:33 pm
@rosborne979,
rosborne979 wrote:

Krumple wrote:
Wait a minute, what the hell is a brick doing just randomly placed in a hotel? Oh and this is a show right? How do you know they didn't ask the boom operator to toss the brick? Yes I know, I am skeptical by nature but I am not going to accept the fact that some hotel has random bricks laying around that ghosts like to pick up and throw around. You know if I was a ghost, that is what I would do, hang out in some hotel and toss bricks around.

Here's the scene. The "brick" takes flight at 1:10 into the clip.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlefiXymoMA[/youtube]

The only problem is that it's not a brick. If you slow it down and watch its movement carefully you can see the flutter of wings. It's a bat. And it scared the **** out of the guy on the show... pretty funny actually Laughing


See this is the problem with these kinds of things/shows. They fuel the ignorance out in the world, because they give credit to these unfounded fears. Just look at the equation. Guy alone, in the dark, in a "haunted" place, with a camera, waiting for something to happen. Of course something is going to happen, because that is the whole reason they are there. If nothing happened it wouldn't be on TV.

Is a blind person ever afraid of the dark? When they hear certain noises at night are their minds wandering and thinking up the worse possible scenario of what is making the sounds? Sometimes for the seeing, relying so heavily on sight is actually a major hindrance to rationality, as absurd as it is to say that, it's true.

rosborne979
 
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Reply Mon 21 Jun, 2010 07:14 pm
@Krumple,
Krumple wrote:
See this is the problem with these kinds of things/shows. They fuel the ignorance out in the world, because they give credit to these unfounded fears. Just look at the equation. Guy alone, in the dark, in a "haunted" place, with a camera, waiting for something to happen. Of course something is going to happen, because that is the whole reason they are there. If nothing happened it wouldn't be on TV.

Of course. It's entertainment. It doesn't exist to study and reveal anything, it exists for entertainment.

What's really interesting is that people lose themselves in the show and forget what it really is. Or they don't want to believe what it really is.
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Tue 22 Jun, 2010 11:11 am
@rosborne979,
Here's the scene. The "brick" takes flight at 1:10 into the clip.

I can't believe nobody on the internet debunked this and recognized the "flying brick" is actually a cute little bat. It's pretty obvious when you look at it a few times.

The camera guy is pretty funny in this video. He spends the first few minutes saying "we're not scared of you", but then when the bat startles him he freaks out and runs for the exit. I'm amazed the camera people who were filming him could hold in the laughter (except I guess they are paid to do that).

The producers of the show sure got their money's worth out of that scared explorer, he gave them some real fear for their "reality" show Smile
IceB0x
 
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Reply Tue 22 Jun, 2010 07:40 pm
@rosborne979,
You obviously know nothing about Ghost Adventures. It's not a lone man. He has a crew of himself (Zak), Aaron, and Nick. On top of that, they sometimes have an extra camera man. There are no bats in the hotel; it was closed up. It's no longer in use, but wasn't abandoned. The flutter before the brick flies is actually a puff of dust from the floor. Not only did the brick fly, but the wood leaning against the wall in the background also fell in unison. A 'bat' throwing a brick would not also cause a large piece of would to fall. Even if it did, how would a bat get it's little feet around a brick? A brick weighs more than a bat.

Specialists debunked it as being a string or thrown. Obviously no one was in the room. The string theory falls because the brick lifted, then had an arched fall. A string would cause it to go straight. It also has a tilt when it is lifted off the ground, which means it had a lot more force than a 'toss.' I'd like to see why a bat would toss a brick, anyway. That's what I think when I see flying bricks. Those darn bats again.

I don't believe in ghosts, although I still think there is no true valid way of figuring it out. Obviously if several specialists have no true answer, neither do people who aren't specialists.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 22 Jun, 2010 07:45 pm
Something launches that brick. It is visible as it sends it off. I watched thet sequence enough times to see it.
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Tue 22 Jun, 2010 08:21 pm
@IceB0x,
It was a bat. And the bat didn't throw the brick, it just took off, like all bats do.

Are you really telling me that there are no bats in that hotel because it's closed up? Do you know how small a hole bats can get into?

Given the choice between it being a "flying brick" hurled by a ghost, or a normal every day cute little bat hiding in a dark and dingy basement... it was a bat. Sheesh.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 22 Jun, 2010 08:50 pm
IceB0x
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jun, 2010 12:15 am
@rosborne979,
Oh, you confused a brick with a bat? I see the resemblence. I know bats can climb in any holes, I'm just saying it wasn't a bat unless they're square, lift up, and fall down in an arch.
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IceB0x
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jun, 2010 12:17 am
@edgarblythe,
Ahah! Thank you, edgar. I knew it was a brick, and thankfully I also noticed the wood moving in the background. I have to admit I never noticed anyone there, though.
roger
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jun, 2010 02:15 am
@IceB0x,
You mean, you saw a recreation that was plainly labeled as a re-creation and think it disproves anything about the original?
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Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Fri 2 May, 2014 03:50 am
@IceB0x,
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I was just interested in how many people believe in them, and also why.


offcourse! and why= because the evidence is overwhelming!
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Fri 2 May, 2014 08:15 pm
This thread just surfaced tonight. When it was originally posted, in 2010, I had had one "ghost" experience which I am still dubious about.

However, I came home from work during the warm winter of 2011. The date was probably 7 December 2011, as I taught an evening class that met one day a week, on a Wednesday. Despite the fact that it was mild night, without wind, the house was very cold and drafty. I asked my son about the draft and he said there were drafts where there never were. I stood next to the pellet stove and a draft tore past me.

I went upstairs, plugged in the space heater and tried to warm the bathroom. It failed to work. The water I drew for my bath never warmed up. I took one of the coldest baths of my life.

In the morning, the bathroom was tropical. The mirror was covered with condensation. At that point, I said to myself that there was a ghost here.

Was it safe to undress in front of him, I asked myself, then laughed. How can one hide from an incorporeal ghost? Besides, how did I know it was a he? Who was he? I asked my cousin and my brothers if a family member had died. They said no. I asked friends from throughout my life whether anyone we knew had died. They, too, said no.

I remember what Donna, a friend who became an astrologer, had advised me about ghosts. She told me to say to a ghost, if you come in the name of God, come. I trusted the ghost and said nothing but the temperature fluctuations continued while spills and puddles failed to dry, sometimes lasting up the three days before I wiped them up.

The 18th of December is the birthday of the love of my life. I never celebrate it but I think of him on that day. A few weeks before his birthday, I volunteered to usher at Shakespeare and Company. I strongly felt the need to be out of the house on that day. While I was worried about snow in the Berkshires, it never happened. The weather was more like a sunny day in late September or early October.

While I was eating breakfast and loading the dishwasher, I remember when LOML and I doubled with his best friend. We went tobogganing. I hadn't thought of that day in years and I could not remember his friend's last name. I spent most of the day trying to recall it.

That evening, after the play and the drive home, I googled LOML. His obituary came up. He had died about two weeks earlier on the second of the month. I walked around in shock. It took two days for me to remember the friend's name. I knew they had had a falling out when they were in med school and had stopped speaking. I wondered whether the friend knew. I googled him and found his work address. Using some lovely French stationery, I wrote him a letter. He never responded but that means nothing.

After I mailed the letter, on a Wednesday evening, after teaching, I parked my car in the yard. I felt a presence near the stairs leading to the deck. I was afraid that his ghost would have manifested himself in a visible form. Would I see the 25 year old medical student I last saw or the man who died at 65? I turned to where the invisible presence was and said his name and that I had loved him very much. I said I had contacted his friend and then I told him to go where he had to go, that I could not "hang out with a ghost." I heard an audible pop.

It took about 18 months for the mourning to end. Every once in a while, I still find myself directing thoughts toward him. "I wish you weren't dead."
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Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Mon 19 May, 2014 12:34 am
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Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Tue 20 May, 2014 12:12 am
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Messages from the dead: The drowned son who returns for bedside chats. The astronaut who spoke to his father's ghost. Impossible? This spine-tingling series may make you think again

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