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Embarrassed!?

 
 
sometime sun
 
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Reply Fri 18 Jun, 2010 06:05 pm
@Reyn,
Yes I wonder why people are embarrassed about natural phenomena such as bodily functions.
If it cant be helped it can't be judged and neither can you.

Is embarrassment a judgement of some sort?
Rockhead
 
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Reply Fri 18 Jun, 2010 06:06 pm
@sometime sun,
I think embarrassment is fear of judgment...
sometime sun
 
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Reply Fri 18 Jun, 2010 06:09 pm
@dyslexia,
There will be some I do get I am sure,
I really do have a sense of humour somewhere,
probably located somewhere with the stick up my.......

Thanks and please you can still be funny with me, but if I don't get it I will ask you.
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Twirlip
 
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Reply Fri 18 Jun, 2010 06:15 pm
@Rockhead,
SS, it might be that, as Rockhead has just said, embarrassment is a fear; and further, that is is fear of a possible truth known to others but not (yet) to you (and so it is a transitional state); and that the possible truth in question is about yourself; and that in all these respects, therefore, embarrassment is akin to that fear of a possible truth known to atheists, but not to you or to other theists, a truth concerning our shared identity as human beings, which is (at least part of) what you started to write about in that other thread, the one which was the occasion of the second of your two embarrassments.

Is God, then, an embarrassment?
djjd62
 
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Reply Fri 18 Jun, 2010 06:20 pm
@sometime sun,
what others think of me mostly

i think i'm the coolest kid in the room
ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 18 Jun, 2010 06:33 pm
@sometime sun,
Oh, good grief.

Penance? Restitution?

Cannot you lay your burden down and just talk? via Rockhead's post, I guess not.
djjd62
 
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Reply Fri 18 Jun, 2010 06:39 pm
@ossobuco,


I am not the type of dog
That could keep you waiting
For no good reason
Run a carbon-black test on my jaw
And you will find it's all been said before

I can swing my megaphone and long arm the rest
It's easier and better
To just beat it from the chest
Of desire

I could walk into this room
And the waves of conversation are enough
To knock you down in the undertow
So alone, so alone in my life
Feed me banks of light
And hang your hairshirt on the lowest rung
It's a beautiful life
And I can hang my hairshirt
Away up high in the attic of the wrong dog's life chest
Or bury it at sea
All my life I've searched for this

Here I am, here I am in your life
It's a beautiful life
My life
It's a beautiful life
Your life
ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 18 Jun, 2010 06:40 pm
@djjd62,
I remember feeling his way, a long time ago. See Twirlip's point.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 18 Jun, 2010 06:53 pm
@ossobuco,
I don't mean to mock - I remember the sort of chamber I lived in then. And I don't mean to intimate that if sometime sun opens up, he will just suddenly become me, his total opposite. Very unlikely.

I'd just like to dispell the fear part of it.
sometime sun
 
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Reply Fri 18 Jun, 2010 07:01 pm
@Rockhead,
That is a very good point.
I am my own judge first and I am often brutal with self, so I can see how and why I would fear my own judgement and need for punishment.

And then for me of course there is the waiting judgement of the Higher Power Rational or irrational it is still a very real fear of mine.

And I suppose to be true there is also after the judgements of myself and God the judgements of others, but as long as you can rationally judge yourself the only judgement I would fear form another would mean my death.
And I don't really fear that either just the reason for it, I do so hope that when the time comes it is worth while.

I wonder if people are embarrassed about death at all?

Thank you for your insight
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 18 Jun, 2010 07:04 pm
Back to didge.
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wandeljw
 
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Reply Fri 18 Jun, 2010 07:11 pm
@dyslexia,
dyslexia wrote:

sometime sun wrote:

I don''t understand, please elaborate.

Never mind I saw it was a joke,
not saying I think it is unfunny, but I don't get it.
Does it mean I write to much and stare at my computer to much?

not important, I have a reputation for being flippant and sarcastic.


Wait till you meet gustavratzenhofer, sometime sun!
sometime sun
 
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Reply Fri 18 Jun, 2010 07:48 pm
@Twirlip,
It does make me wonder why and how truth could be an embarrassment?
Surly the lie would be more embarrassing?
Is embarrassment an avoidance of truth then?
Is embarrassment a denial?

God could easily be the most embarrassing thing this universe has ever known.
It is something that wont let us prove It.
Embarrassment is also doubt.
But doubt is fear so same thing.
We are in constant fear even when not doubting or questioning God that His possible previous actions were not something that is easily seen as truthful for the sheer barbarity of the record.
So even if one does not question God's existence they still have to question God's credibility and or actions.
Making it often embarrassing to be associated to something that still wont confirm our truth.
Fear of a lost God.
This is where the bliss and peace of faith solves so very much of the confusion and embarrassment.
The state truly shows there is no need to feel embarrassed as long as you give your best and try to encourage the best from others.
Is embarrassment a marker for morality?
Is embarrassment an internal law?
Embarrassment is trying to tell me something.
Something is not right with me, there is an unbalance.
So you figure out the fear and face it and squash it.
I wonder how people can live with their embarrassment and still not face it.
Which of course is facing yourself.

Is embarrassment a selfish or selfless thing?
It could be telling you to do or be either.

Good to see you, still not secure enough to see what's in 'there', maybe better tomorrow, I will get round to it else I would then be embarrassed all over again.(sun smile)
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sometime sun
 
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Reply Fri 18 Jun, 2010 07:50 pm
@djjd62,
In which case I think you are cool as well (smile)
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sometime sun
 
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Reply Fri 18 Jun, 2010 07:53 pm
@ossobuco,
Perhaps I should then say simple 'resolution' surly when embarrassed there is something that needs resolving?
And for some people to resolve is to pay or try your best to make equal.
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chai2
 
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Reply Fri 18 Jun, 2010 08:39 pm
good heavens, I don't have the time to read all that sometime sun, but I will say that....

I enjoy your posts.

I like your avatar.

I like how you say things like "sometime sun smiling"

I think you should stop beating yourself up, but, I also think you enjoy doing that to yourself.

I have no idea why you feel embarrassed, and I don't think most other people know either.

Just enjoy yourself. Life's short.
Thomas
 
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Reply Sat 19 Jun, 2010 12:22 am
@sometime sun,
sometime sun wrote:
To my mind and feeling I have embarrassed myself twice since being here.

Just twice? I must have embarrassed myself dozens of times since being here. Don't worry too much about it. We're pretty robust here in hashing out our disagreements, but we don't usually carry grudges about them. You'll be alright.
Theaetetus
 
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Reply Sat 19 Jun, 2010 12:32 am
@djjd62,
I once had a professor that kept going on about the number 41 and no one could figure out what he was talking about and what the **** it had to do with metaphysics. I told him if he added one, maybe a handful of people would then understand the answer to life, the universe, and everything. Of course, few people got it, and most couldn't figure out why the professor was so embarrassed. It was probably one of the weirdest things I have witnessed in a university class.
sometime sun
 
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Reply Sat 19 Jun, 2010 01:11 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Yes self inspection is important.

Best wishes.
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sometime sun
 
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Reply Sat 19 Jun, 2010 01:22 pm
@djjd62,
One shared existence of a,
One life.
One home.
One love of light.
One heaven,
Corner stone.

Did you write this?
Who ever did it is really fetching.
Loved it.
Thanks for the participation.
Will have to write you something sometime.

Best wishes.
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