caesarian selection

as long as it's not mandatory, i don't see a problem with it, not being a women, and not ever planning on having kids, i don't really have a strong opinion either way

He also didn't talk until he was four, and dumped his first wife when he became a celebrity.

But none of this has anything to do with arguments for "natural childbirth"!

sometime sun - meet chai2

http://able2know.org/topic/145129-1

pretty standard

pregnancies usually run 39 - 40 weeks = 10 lunar months

kids are so rarely planned

it was an example of brain development not emotional development.

And do you think a child more healthy if it speaks before they are four?

I may not know the facts but don't babies come when they are sick of the womb?
When they are ready to and ABLE to leave.

You really should here implement a thread, sorry, topic evaluator that keeps you from saying the same thing twice.
Thanks for the link though.

I wonder if it messes up their zodiac sign.

They were supposed to be a saggitarius, but they come out a scorpio.

If a child must be a C-section for the sake of the baby's health, or the mother, so be it.

But a birth, I feel, isn't a thing of convenience.

I think that the vast majority of the time nature knows what it's doing.

BTW, I'm going to respond on the outcome of the birth I started the other thread about, over there.

There are some times when the woman is just too little and the baby is too big. (My son was born to a 4'9" queen-of-the-world. He was only 2 pounds 11 ounces and was STILL too big.)

Doctors say CS is easier on the babies. Probably true. We do value babies more than we value mothers. Fathers run a distant fourth or maybe fifth if there are other children involved.

Pain freaks some people out. Some people have never had any pain in the entire lives, never fallen off a bicycle or been hit by mistake with a baseball bat or tennis racket, never banged their thumb r e a l l y hard with a hammer so that there were clouds of red and blue and yellow in their eyes ---- those people have a hard time with labor. They think it's going to kill them.

(They could be right. According to the Lancet in April of this year,
women giving birth in the United States die at more than four times the rate of those in Italy and double that of Britain.)

So much for the US having the best health-care in the world.

Here's how I see it. The woman having the baby gets to decide how her body will be utilized in bringing the baby into the world.
IF she wants to go through labor, hooray, she'll be tougher for it.

If she wants to squat in a swimming pool with twelve of her best naked friends or sit in a special birthing chair in the middle of an ashram while clouds of incense fill the air.
OR
If she wants to have a CS, even if she wants to have it on the birthday of her dead mother,
as long as it doesn't affect the health of the baby,
Okay by me.

Joe(Bring on the new life, raise up the newborn)Nation

isn't that partly a reflection of the very high rate of interventions such as cesarians?