kill all conceited morons

@TuringEquivalent,

TuringEquivalent;159827 wrote:

Is this you pretending to be me, HexHammer?

We may share many similar traits, if you look at some of my other posts/threads, then you will witness I take it almost as far as you.

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@kennethamy,

kennethamy;159832 wrote:

It took me a while to figure out that you meant "conceited" not "conceded" morons. For some time I thought you might mean, people who conceded that they were morons. I wish you would learn to spell. It would save time.

I miss spell a single word. Why is this a ******* deal? I don ` t know how to spell, because i miss spell a single ******* word. Is this what you are saying?

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@TuringEquivalent,

TuringEquivalent;159839 wrote:

I miss spell a single word. Why is this a ******* deal? I don ` t know how to spell, because i miss spell a single ******* word. Is this what you are saying?

No. I just said that because you misspelled, I thought you meant something completely different from what you seem to have meant. (Miss Spell is not an annoying girl I know, by the way).

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@TuringEquivalent,

TuringEquivalent;159817 wrote:

This is the creative writing section of the forum, no? Since when is emotions ,rational? I don ` t need to justify emotions, art, poetry for that matter. I embrace those evil sadistic emotions, but i don` t act on it. I will never ever kill anyone until those people harm the people i care for. I would have to **** them up in other ways.

Fair enough...but then maybe those others who you speak of, who don't seem to value logic or honor, also have the right to be emotional and sadistic at times.

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@TuringEquivalent,

TuringEquivalent;159817 wrote:

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This is the creative writing section of the forum, no? Since when is emotions ,rational? I don ` t need to justify emotions, art, poetry for that matter. I embrace those evil sadistic emotions, but i don` t act on it. I will never ever kill anyone until those people harm the people i care for. I would have to **** them up in other ways.

Of course emotions can be rational or irrational. If someone happens to step on my toe, and I blow up, and become angry enough to I hit him even if I do not, my anger at him for stepping on my toe is irrational. Isn't it? Emotions can be irrational even if you don't act them out

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@kennethamy,

kennethamy;159846 wrote:

No. I just said that because you misspelled, I thought you meant something completely different from what you seem to have meant. (Miss Spell is not an annoying girl I know, by the way).

You told me that i ought to learn to spell because i misspelled a single ******* word. It is very clear to me your implicit meaning. You must really be pissed at me for something. Are you angry at me, Kennethamy?

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Pangloss;159847 wrote:

Fair enough...but then maybe those others who you speak of, who don't seem to value logic or honor, also have the right to be emotional and sadistic at times.

Sure, but their creative outlet ought to be confined to poetry, art, or literature. Perhaps even some type of performance art, or underground poetry reading.

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kennethamy;159850 wrote:

Of course emotions can be rational or irrational. If someone happens to step on my toe, and I blow up, and become angry enough to I hit him even if I do not, my anger at him for stepping on my toe is irrational. Isn't it? Emotions can be irrational even if you don't act them out

I sure will act on my emotions. I just would not cut them up into pieces of meat, and feed it back to them. I would probable shout at them for being ******* careless.

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@TuringEquivalent,

TuringEquivalent;159852 wrote:

You told me that i ought to learn to spell because i misspelled a single ******* word. It is very clear to me your implicit meaning. You must really be pissed at me for something. Are you angry at me, Kennethamy?

Well, you're the one ranting about people deserving torture and death for stupidity - such as trouble with maths.

So to be frank, you do invite scrutiny of your own mistakes, even if it is all rather petty.

(It's conventional in English to capitalise "I", by the way).

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@TuringEquivalent,

TuringEquivalent;159839 wrote:

I miss spell a single word. Why is this a ******* deal? I don ` t know how to spell, because i miss spell a single ******* word. Is this what you are saying?

Usually not-so-very-bright-people resort to pitiful attack on spelling, when they don't have any intelligent to say, don't mind them.

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TuringEquivalent;159817 wrote:

I am a spam? Really?

Fine, let me spell it out for you, in my post I critizied a remark that had nothing to do with the topic at hand, therefore I had to consider it spam, and promtly made her aware of that.

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@TuringEquivalent,

What is all this defensive gesturing about spelling and grammar?
As if that wasn't important.

Proper communication is of first and foremost importance when you would wish that another might think your opinions to have any value.

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@wayne,

wayne;159899 wrote:

What is all this defensive gesturing about spelling and grammar?
As if that wasn't important.

Proper communication is of first and foremost importance when you would wish that another might think your opinions to have any value.

Ofcause it's importaint, but you should also in your equation look at the opposit side of the spectre, there are such things as disabilities, people who are word blind (dunno the medical term), thus it would be a discrinating action to attack others disabilities.

It may be more clear with legally blind people, or those who have bad vision, bad hearing, lame people ..etc.

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@HexHammer,

HexHammer;159906 wrote:

Ofcause it's importaint, but you should also in your equation look at the opposit side of the spectre, there are such things as disabilities, people who are word blind (dunno the medical term), thus it would be a discrinating action to attack others disabilities.

It may be more clear with legally blind people, or those who have bad vision, bad hearing, lame people ..etc.

Of course this is entirely true. But the defenses , thus far , have included justifications.
Do you think that mastery of any particular language, spoken or written, does not require intelligence?
Or that such mastery is somehow not worthy of an intelligent persons effort?
The vein of justifications used, might lead someone to think that to be the opinion.

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@TuringEquivalent,

TuringEquivalent;159810 wrote:

I am open to being wrong. What i cannot stand are unjustified irrational claims from nowhere. If someone claim A, then they ought to give a good justification for A. Mass opinions, and talking points do not impress me.

Sure, and that's reasonable.

What I want to offer advice on - that you're certainly free to accept or toss as you see fit - is your reaction to it. It's not a criticism, its simply my thoughts on reacting to this.

Obviously it eats you up inside; pisses you off, makes you angry and even conjures up images of using a carving knife on someone. Although (I'm guessing) you're probably not really going to do this, it illustrates well just how intensely it makes you feel. I can't imagine how this is a good thing for you - do you find the thought of allowing the views of others have this much control over you appealing?

Besides, as I suggested earlier, no matter how completely brainless an opinion sounds it may actually be right!. If we're to have any hope of learning anything, it'll necessarily come from those encounters where an opinion differs. In this case, remember that it's not up to someone else to convince you - if you care about your development you'll take responsibility for learning and consider it, think about it and give real consideration to the distinct possibility that they may not be using the exact words you might want. I think a touch of humility goes a long way towards us understanding and both parties have to take responsibility for it. Often times others won't; because of this are you doing yourself justice by not trying?

Sure, you can let bitterness eat you up; but this would be your decision. There's an opportunity there - in most cases - wisdom comes to those who are willing to irk through the pain of communication and humility lets us release our bias just enough to see what's being said in a new light.

So yea, just some advice. I know this might come off as a bit sanctimonious and self-righteous; mainly because I'm not as good at taking my own advice as giving it. I do consciously try though; and for those times I succeed, I get to reap the benefits. In any case, good luck!

Thanks

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@kennethamy,

kennethamy;159832 wrote:

It took me a while to figure out that you meant "conceited" not "conceded" morons. For some time I thought you might mean, people who conceded that they were morons. I wish you would learn to spell. It would save time.

That's alright. We all know that you have trouble responding to what a person actually means rather than the borderline-retarded literal interpretation.

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@wayne,

wayne;159911 wrote:

Of course this is entirely true. But the defenses , thus far , have included justifications.
Do you think that mastery of any particular language, spoken or written, does not require intelligence?
Or that such mastery is somehow not worthy of an intelligent persons effort?
The vein of justifications used, might lead someone to think that to be the opinion.

I know 4 linguists, 2 of them are naive and utterly stupid but has masterd many languages, 1 is just plain weird and does not understand plain tactics and strategies even though he has played strategy games extremely much as I, he has a brilliant brother who isn't linguist. The last is somewhat intelligent but does not understand logistics.

I myself sucks at language, written as spoken, but does understand a bit of the vocal algorithm applied to language, thus I can immitate the langeguage, but not speak any actual words ..well other than the usual 2 beers please!
But I would claim I'm reasonable intelligent even though I suck at grammar and spelling.

Studying mordern intelligence research, should clearly state that many of the intelligences can work independantly, thus the one has nothing to do with the other, some intelligences can work together ..etc.

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@Night Ripper,

Night Ripper;159914 wrote:

That's alright. We all know that you have trouble responding to what a person actually means rather than the borderline-retarded literal interpretation.

I really had no idea that he meant to write "conceited" rather than, "conceded". But maybe that shows my slowness. Or maybe it shows that I really thought that he could write something like "conceded morons", which, perhaps shows something about him. Besides, on this forum, it is very dicey to conclude from the fact that someone writes something nonsensical that it is an error on his part. Lots of people really do mean to write something nonsensical on this forum. It is, after all, a philosophy forum.

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Night Ripper;159914 wrote:

That's alright. We all know that you have trouble responding to what a person actually means rather than the borderline-retarded literal interpretation.

I really had no idea that he meant to write "conceited" rather than, "conceded". But maybe that shows my slowness. Or maybe it shows that I really thought that he could write something like "conceded morons", which, perhaps shows something about him. Besides, on this forum, it is very dicey to conclude from the fact that someone writes something nonsensical that it is an error on his part. Lots of people really do mean to write something nonsensical on this forum. It is, after all, a philosophy forum.

(All this reminds me of a funny joke from Neil Simon's play, The Odd Couple: one of the odd couple is Felix Ungar, and he leaves a note for the other one of the odd couple, Oscar, and initials it, "F. U.", and Oscar, who gets the note tells Felix that he wishes he (Felix) would not send him notes, because it took him (Oscar) two hours to figure out that F U stood for, "Felix Ungar".).

One of the very typical facts about reading the philosophical meanderings of some is just that you may be unable to decide whether what was written was a misspelling. or some other trivial error, or whether the writer really meant it. I often find that problem with your posts.

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@HexHammer,

HexHammer;159917 wrote:

I know 4 linguists, 2 of them are naive and utterly stupid but has masterd many languages, 1 is just plain weird and does not understand plain tactics and strategies even though he has played strategy games extremely much as I, he has a brilliant brother who isn't linguist. The last is somewhat intelligent but does not understand logistics.

I myself sucks at language, written as spoken, but does understand a bit of the vocal algorithm applied to language, thus I can immitate the langeguage, but not speak any actual words ..well other than the usual 2 beers please!
But I would claim I'm reasonable intelligent even though I suck at grammar and spelling.

Studying mordern intelligence research, should clearly state that many of the intelligences can work independantly, thus the one has nothing to do with the other, some intelligences can work together ..etc.

Intelligence cannot be measured by one's failing, rather by one's success.

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@wayne,

wayne;159922 wrote:

Intelligence cannot be measured by one's failing, rather by one's success.

Eh? ..uhmmm, back in the days there was a standard war between Beta Max and VHS, Beta Max was the superior stuff, but VHS came out by cleverly appealing to the porn industry, which formed a huge sales basis.

Imsambard Kingdom Brunell proved a broader rail track (more spacing between the rails) would provide a smoother trainride, but as too much of the old track was already laid, his superior tracks could not be laid.

Germans in WW2 spend too much time on quality on the tanks, thus only producing a low number of tanks, whilst most others would outproduce germany with their crude tanks, some even of utterly bad quality ..but the sheer mass was a heavy weight on the scale.

..too often you see an ignorent red neck form a big buisness, where such red neck will hire highly intelligent people, I know several personally who have come from nothing to be big buisness men, it's about know the principles of how things works, what is relevant and irrelevant.

Philosophers often run into a mental maze wher they get lost in insignificant and totally irrelevant matters, that's why they often prove utterly bad leaders ..and specially CEO's.

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@HexHammer,

HexHammer;159926 wrote:

Eh? ..uhmmm, back in the days there was a standard war between Beta Max and VHS, Beta Max was the superior stuff, but VHS came out by cleverly appealing to the porn industry, which formed a huge sales basis.

Why VHS was better than Betamax | Technology | guardian.co.uk

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@Night Ripper,

What Twirlip said!

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@Night Ripper,

Night Ripper;159930 wrote:

Why VHS was better than Betamax | Technology | guardian.co.uk

Ah, Jack Schofield. I have dim memories from years ago of time and time again seeing him grabbing the wrong end of any stick going, and learning to just ignore his opinions.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this long and boring article on Betamax versus VHS seems entirely concerned with appearing interesting by claiming to be right while everybody else is fooled by an "urban myth", and never actually for one moment addresses the question whether the technical quality of Betamax was better than that of VHS, as the "myth" claims. I'm none the wiser.

The only sentence in the article (I've just re-read it, to check that I wasn't being unfair, or simply stupid) that even glancingly refers to the actual point at issue is this one:

Quote:

Even if Betamax had been "technically superior", it wouldn't have mattered.

How informative! Not. And he doesn't even give any references for the interested reader to follow up, to check the supposed evidence for what he is saying.

(He gives a reference to The Best Urban Legends That You'll Ever Need - UrbanLegends.com for a claim about market availability - not technical quality - and even that URL doesn't work, nor does a search at the urban legends website turn anything up.)

(I know nothing about the Betamax vs. VHS controversy, and have no axe to grind. For all I know, he might be right. He just doesn't convince me, and I have long-forgotten memories of being annoyed by his superficial journalism before.)

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