Definition of Reality

MMP2506
People who are raised to believe that the world exists a certain way, no matter how irrational it may be, have a very hard time conceptualizing the mere possibility that there are other ways. It is quite frightening to them.

MMP2506
Therefore, all we can do is try do ease the transition as slow as possible and hope to change as many perspectives as we can along the way.

yes. i have tried to signal this many times in this thread. It can be very frightening.

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People who are raised to believe that the world exists a certain way, no matter how rational it may be, have a very hard time conceptualizing the mere possibility that there are other ways. It is quite frightening to them.

Many of us feel we are intellectual open minded philosophical types who revel oh so delightfully in the excitement of having our 'concepts' of the world turned upside down. We occassionally catch ourselves being a bit competitive, but hey ho all is playful discovery. And most of the time perhaps it is ......... right up to the moment when our world is 'really' turned upside down. Then we discover that we weren't quite so open minded as we thought. We suddenly confront a chasm or a truth that knocks us for six.

If you recognise some truth in this, then consider how a person would react if they got an inkling that a catastrophic chasm or truth were coming their way? Catastrophic in conception/relationship/perception/being of reality and identity. It is possible to use our intuition to tell how excited or fearful someone is.

MMP2506
This is why many phenomenologists view anxiety and angst as the beginnings of authentic being. These feelings are proof that there is indeed something wrong, that needs fixing, and it is human nature to fix what it wrong. Thus a more rational view of the world must be adopted out of survival.

yes i strongly agree ... though crucially i would add

Thus a more rational or irrational view of the world must be adopted out of survival. Depending on the person and their circumstance.

fundamental relations between things, witch in their turn, themselves . . .

yes i strongly agree ... though crucially i would add

Thus a more rational or irrational view of the world must be adopted out of survival. Depending on the person and their circumstance.

Speaking of words, the correct spelling for this in the usage you are intending is "which" not "witch." A "witch" is a "bruxa". Or is it "bruja"? I'm not sure.

I'm not making fun. Your English is far better than my Portuguese, but I thought you might want to know, for future reference.

well MMP2506 i, like many others recognise the cultural supremacy of rationality from the post enlightenment as creating a great deal of angst.

No. How is, "I want two eggs, sunny-side up" a code? It does not need to be deciphered by an English speaker.

No. How is, "I want two eggs, sunny-side up" a code? It does not need to be deciphered by an English speaker.

No. How is, "I want two eggs, sunny-side up" a code? It does not need to be deciphered by an English speaker.

An English speaker/listener can also be described as an English coder/decoder. The "code" metaphor is a fair offering in this context, I think.

But it would by a non-English speaker.:bigsmile:

The problem for many is their world works too well for them; many times it takes a massive re-realization for one to understand the irrationality in which one is living.

This is why many phenomenologists view anxiety and angst as the beginnings of authentic being. These feelings are proof that there is indeed something wrong, that needs fixing, and it is human nature to fix what it wrong. Thus a more rational view of the world must be adopted out of survival.

Thank you, Morpheus. Is it the red pill or the blue pill I'm supposed to take? I can never remember.
I am decoding your words to mean that you think you are right in your view, and others are wrong.


Or, it is evidence of simply being dissatisfied with one's life.
If you are authentically unhappy with your life, of course something is wrong. This doesn't strike me as particularly deep or profound. Kind of a no-brainer, really.

I thought angst had more to do with the realization that one always has choices: to either continue to walk along the cliff edge, or to throw oneself off.

I thought angst had more to do with the realization that one always has choices: to either continue to walk along the cliff edge, or to throw oneself off.

I fail to realize the logic in this...

...The difference between an adult and a child clearly demonstrates the opposite...the older you are the less free you realize you are...

I would agree with you, however, I assume he is operating under a different definition of free will than you are. Just a heads up!