@Camerama,
Camerama;108388 wrote:Accidents aren't evil. There has to be a distinction between evil and accidents. Think about it logically, what is an accident? A car crash, an earthquake, etc. you can't define evil in terms of suffering since that is irrefutably subjective. I stubbed my toe, is that evil? Evil is defined in degrees of suffering? The more the suffering the greater the evil? That is an existential view that takes any and all objectivity out of the equation. There has to be another standard for evil.
But I specifically said that accidents are not evil. I said that they were an evil. Suffering, I pointed out is subjective in the sense that people can feel only their own suffering. But that doesn't mean that people suffer only if I believe they suffer, does it. It is "subjective" for them, but not for me. A person clearly in agony is suffering, even if only she feels the suffering. Do you want to say that it isn't a fact about a person who has cancer that he is suffering even if only he feels the suffering? Stubbing my toe is such a trivial bad thing to happen that the word "evil" is too solemn for it. But if I get stomach cancer, then yes. I would call that
an evil, and so would you. It is an objective fact that a person who is in agony had a bad thing happen to him, an evil. As I said, if you don't like the word, "evil" for some reason, just say a very bad thing has happened to that person. Everyone would agree with that.
You seem to think that the word "evil" is synonymous with "wicked". But that is true only about moral, intentional, evil. Cancer is not wicked, but it is pretty bad, nevertheless.