Are you proud?

But his enjoying watching the team on the tele and feeling a sense of comradery with his peers, isn't good reason enough?

It might be. For instance, if he might get into trouble unless he had such a diversion. The circumstances are important. Perhaps all you mean is that there is no reason not to do it. But that there is no reason not to do it does not seem to me a reason to do it.

What I mean is that we do many things, which, I don't think, we need to provide a good reason for doing. He enjoyed watching the game and feeling a sense of comradery. What if there's nothing else to it? He just enjoys it. No underlying reason like he might get into trouble otherwise. At this point, how would you conclude?

He did it because he likes doing it. That doesn't mean he has a reason for doing it, though.

He did it because he likes doing it. That doesn't mean he has a reason for doing it, though.

What I'm saying is that you are pragmatically justified.

And that means?.............

It's been a while since I read it, but I remember William James having "true" mean "whatever it is best for us to believe is true" or something like that. So by pragmatically justified, I meant that if it is better to have pride in your sports team, then you are justified.

You could argue that that isn't what justified means, but then what would be the real world difference of that argument? It wouldn't change whether it was better to root for the team or not. Unless you had a hang up about doing things that weren't justified in your own strict sense.

Better than not having pride? By what criterion? That I feel better? How better?

(I put it in politics because it is our politics that show our national wills and enforce (enforce is a good word) enforce good virtue upon those who would be unvirtuous, you wont cant get away from your law, politics is your law or law in the making.
What is your future becoming? what history are you trying to get away from?)

Are you proud of your country, your place of birth, your birthright as a citizen?

What makes your country better than mine?

What makes it worse?

What brings you shame of your country nationality vote?

What dose your country contribute to the world and what does it steal?
(what would you give back? Elgin marbles, Macdonalds, etc)

Are you a citizen? Are you proud of your contry and dose it make you who you are? (prideful, shameful, veto)

Is your country better than mine?

What is the best counrty in the world?
(you can pick your own just give a reason)

Where would you choose to hold or be held nationality wise?

I mean, how do you make any judgments about your daily activities? Can you quantify how much better going to a movie or eating some tasty food makes you feel?

With sports in my experience, it's instinctive. So the choice is between watching sports and not watching sports. How far you take your fandom is an issue of course. I would hope that people can treat pragmatic justification and strict justification differently.

Have you seen the film, The Big Fan?