Capitalism Will Bring World Peace

I think he means that capitalism always is a unjust and immoral way of acquiring wealth.
In essence that the system will be rigged for the benefit of the wealthy.

That's saying that if there is trade, there must be fraud, so the solution to get rid of fraud is having no trade.
I would point out that fraud should rather be restricted, not trade.

Dont be so silly who claimed trade was fraud ? Trade is a natural necessity in any system.

You are rejecting trade, because it brings injustice. Instead of wanting to restrict the injustice itself.
So your solution to the injustice, that production brings, is having no production?
You see there is a product and it is distributed with mostly the concern for greed. Your solution is abolishing greed. But you don't see that's the reason there is a product.
Your logic does not follow, and you reject to listen to opposing opinion.

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You never pointed out an alternative to capitalism. Why would there be trade if not for personal gain?

If I call bull**** will you back up your claim?

Capitalism, or at least the free market system you are likely referring to is necessarily peaceful. Everywhere violence or fraud takes hold, markets break down.

By what definition of "violence" can you call competition "economic violence"? Economic actors compete to convince other economic actors that they can better satisfy their wants. Note that convince necessarily excludes violence.

To me, calling market competition "violent" would be the same as calling debate violent. You conflate confrontation with violence.

I presume that he doesn't conceive of a system that enables trade other than capitalism and is asking you to provide alternatives.

Why oh why do you assume i have no interest in trade..I trade myself? How did you come to this conclusion for heavens sake...

Then let me change the word for you:
You are rejecting capitalism, because it brings injustice. Instead of wanting to restrict the injustice itself.
So your solution to the injustice, that production brings, is having no production?

Look at the thread heading,I reject the term capitalism not the notion of trade, just as you reject my ethical position because i call it socialism.

It is easy to say x has this and that negative effect. As there are negative effects with everything.
As long as you don't point out an alternative, mine is the better option.

I have given you alternatives but you refuse to acknowledge them.

It is easy to say x has this and that negative effect. As there are negative effects with everything.

xris;60178 wrote:

So telling someone not to jump of a cliff is pointless.

Where please? Post links to the threads. I will tell you why they are not better alternatives.

Well, what if there are ten people jumping off the other end of the bridge and you can only tell them or the one guy to not do it.
What's the better alternative?

Can i not trade without the capitalist Ethics being applied.Fair trade is one example, no exploitation of labour,a really free market,no trade barriers.No artificial pricing through selected markets having the strangle hold on commodities and products.No collusion with governments, creating artificial retail pricing.
Capitalism is a mind set of success at any price , social trade is a necessity, a requirement not an excuse to exploit

let them all jump because if that many are attempting to jump they must have good reason.

Let them all jump because suicides are seldom stopped by reason and today's saved is tomorrows quest.With a bit of luck they will all be capitalists.

Socialism is a state of mind, its an ethical way of life.

Ah the last refuge of the rhetoric debater."Why are you not entering into reasonable debate?"

Confrontation when the individual is damaged is violence.Nothing in debate will give me pain but my place of work transported halfway around the world for the benefit of shareholders will cause me extreme pain.

Then you're a nihilist?

Are you actually chastising me because I called for reasonable debate on a philosophy forum?

xris, are you just saying stuff now to disagree with me? If you aren't open to opposing opinion, and are just going to be a bot, your comments are not very helpful.

A nihilist would have no stake either way. Better to have no beliefs, if you can manage it.