Artificial brain 'ten years away'

What should be headline material is crowded out for celebrity blather and whatnot, be serious



OH MAN I'VE BEEN CALLED OUT I'M SWEATING BULLETS

Actually no

But I think synthesizing an entire genome from scratch and putting it in a cell could be considered creation of life

Whatever criteria you have for creating life will almost inevitably be met in the future, so I guess now's a good time to criticize idly before you have to start backpedaling

Ahh so now its going to be in the future..back to the future again..Its not creating life and you know it..

What should be headline material is crowded out for celebrity blather and whatnot, be serious

Alright, this is still grossly off-topic but how do you define "creating life"

Surely there'd be something in the news, has it?

Do you remember front page news about the synthesis of the polio virus in a lab (1992)?

Neither do I

Oh please you are aware of how we describe life and to recreate life is just as i say

The argument was a developement of the outrageous claims certain scientists make to attract headlines.

I can remember hearing as child they had found a cure by immunisation, most certainly.

New Scientist Space Blog: Life defined - New Scientist I think i would agree with this description even though you might understand it more than I.Don't play the poor downtrodden scientist as if i decry all by a few outrageous claims.Its a simple case of when it happens i will applaud, but it aint happened yet.

I think i will remember if cold fusion is found or when the secrets of life have been discovered.

I somehow doubt you understand this definition, but this is how much of it a synthesized virus (like polio, 1992) would meet:
[INDENT]Life is a thermodynamically open chemical system with a semi-permeable boundary. It contains an information-based complex system with emergent properties, part of which drives a metabolism based on a proton gradient. The said gradient generates the necessary potential difference across the semi-permeable boundary. The information is heritable and coded in such a way as to allow variation and thus evolution.
[/INDENT]So that's like half of it there

I guess the rest of the definition is WOW! magical and there's NO WAY we'll ever pull it off.

In fact, I'd be surprised if the rest were not filled in within the next five years.



What does cold fusion have to do with thread?

"Secrets of life" is too vague, what are you talking about?

We may see life created we may not but up till now we have not.They have constructed a modified genome and placed it back into a living cell.That aint creatinglife thats modifying life.

Coldfusion was another example of claims made rashly.

Well first of all, an entire genome has been created from scratch and it's being prepared for insertion in a cell, which is different and a lot closer to creating life than what you described...

But this thread is about the Blue Brain project, which has already succeeded in replicating an entire neocortical column in software, down to the molecular level. So you can't claim that "because we haven't made a cell 100% from scratch, we can't replicate a brain in software". That's already wrong, because a rat's neocortical column contains several thousand cells.



Most other physicists reacted to claims of cold fusion pretty negatively, and it's no longer considered respectable. You will not see publications concerning cold fusion in mainstream publications. That's the difference between science and magic: we fix our own mistakes. Magicalists don't.

The same goes for the claim to create a human brain,it aint even managed a worm yet, so lets not get carried away

My point about cold fusion, science was convinced initially by another scientists claims,where they not?

What and who is a magicalist?

Stop derailing the thread. This is about replicating a human brain in software. The first stage was already successful, as I pointed out: the replicated neocortical column acted as it should have.



Your confusion could be resolved easily by reading the wikipedia entry on "cold fusion"



You know someone who says that x, y or z isn't possible, appealing vaguely to some kind of magic

Whose quoting some vague notion of magic?

http://www.philosophyforum.com/forum/philosophy-forums/branches-philosophy/philosophy-mind/5313-artificial-brain-ten-years-away.html#post79049
[INDENT]A mammalian brain type computer does not get even come close to resembling a human brain.It may help solve brain disorders but it will never be able to conceive of its own being or have an original thought.
[/INDENT]Oh ... and why not?

In ten years, we will all be a little older. Cable boxes and downloadable movies will have replaced Netflix, arthritic hands will be prevalent among 30 year olds from all of the typing on those tiny iPhone and Blackberry keypads, and scientists will still be promising in their marketing pitches for research grants, that cancer breakthroughs are right around the corner, and humans will all be replaced by robots someday. I'll probably be playing tennis and dancing Salsa.

Rich

How is this quoting magic...:perplexed: