@OntheWindowStand,
OntheWindowStand;146153 wrote:I strongly disagree on the rape. The punishment would far exceed rape (the crime). We were talking earlier too about being sure about murder charges we might be able to get there but rape is something that plently of girls lie about. 25 percent of rapes are classified as unfounded. To know exactly how many are lies is very hard but many FBI officials think it could be as high as 90 percent this is from experience obviously since a survey wouldn't exactly be honest... LOL
I'm really glad you brought this up. Two additions to your sentiment here if I might:
1. The idea that not all accused crimes did actually occur as an indictment (or accuser) says they did.[INDENT]No matter how intense and thorough our investigations are, because they rely on often imperfect evidence in an imperfect system administered by imperfect creatures, there will be times where innocent people are convicted. If this follows, at all, then any advocate for death penalties would necessarily have to admit that they're OK occasionally executing someone who didn't do a thing, else they'd almost have to change their stance in light of this realization.
[/INDENT][INDENT]There are some actions taken that are so permanent, so complete and irreversible that one must take the utmost care to not
ever do them unless 1,000% sure. Given the variables involved, can we ever be?
[/INDENT]2. On the example of Rape, Specifically: There are some inflictions we can place upon others that are, in many ways, worse than almost anything else. This is based on the
duration and level of suffering inflicted.[INDENT]Rape, I believe, has the direct potential (even likelihood) of irreversibly damaging someone for life. And in so doing, prolongs suffering - on different levels - to be 're-committed'; the effects of that injury, again and again. Perhaps a better of this kind of damage might be traumas and misdeeds inflicted on children.
In both cases, there's the very real potential for suffering that is prolonged and lives that are inextricably-altered for the worse for every remaining hour, day, month or year that victim survives.
[/INDENT]Does this justify the death penalty? To me, on an emotional level: Hell yea. On an intellectual level, probably not (reason: See the quandary described in point 1).
Thanks