JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 09:12 pm
@Fil Albuquerque,
What's interesting is we already had this conversation while we were 'asleep'.......there's only an arrangement to pretend.
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JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 09:12 pm
@north,
Why not?
north
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 09:15 pm
@JPLosman0711,
JPLosman0711 wrote:

Why not?


why not ?
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 09:15 pm
Remember Plato´s Reminiscence ? The old gets new...
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 09:15 pm
What's even more interesting is all that you can do is go back and forth from no'thing' to some'thing......
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 09:17 pm
@Fil Albuquerque,
Yes, otherwise communication would not even be possible.....nor would the phenomena of experience.
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 09:18 pm
But what we really really need to do is break from these confines of proving our existences by finding out who we are, otherwise we just go in circles....
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 09:19 pm
@JPLosman0711,
Well you know...Science is young and pretentious when aiming against Philosophy...(and don´t get me wrong I love Science...)
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 09:19 pm
@north,
Why not? (Bet I can go longer than you....)
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north
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 09:20 pm
@JPLosman0711,
JPLosman0711 wrote:

What's even more interesting is all that you can do is go back and forth from no'thing' to some'thing......


actually , all you can do is go from some'thing to no'thing , apparently
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 09:20 pm
@Fil Albuquerque,
Science and Philosophy are both unnecessary definitions, there is only Be-ing.
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 09:21 pm
@north,
Order is irrelevant...
north
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 09:22 pm
@JPLosman0711,
JPLosman0711 wrote:

Science and Philosophy are both unnecessary definitions, there is only Be-ing.


actually both are intertwined really
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 09:23 pm
@north,
Yes, but they are still definitions with validity through agreement. Definitions that don't even define anything really, I mean what is 'science'? Have you ever seen it? What is 'philosophy'? Have you seen that either? It's amazing how much there isn't, and how much defining hat goes on to that of only conceptual agreements...
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 09:25 pm
@JPLosman0711,
Well that´s where I divide myself from Budism...I am not so sure we have to find anything but what we have...pattern repeatability will be endless and the Universe will never come to a halt...Nirvana is for itself not for us...
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north
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 09:25 pm
@JPLosman0711,
JPLosman0711 wrote:

Order is irrelevant...


disagree

order is irrelvent

since nothing is NOT another word for something

therefore something first
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 09:27 pm
@north,
You are the no'thing' that first defines some'thing'
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Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 09:30 pm
@JPLosman0711,
No...Order is everything...there´s only one order, one phenomena emanating in the Noumena...from one Truth, through ONE BEING, from which you experience the illusion of Be-Ing...
north
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 09:32 pm
@JPLosman0711,
JPLosman0711 wrote:

Yes, but they are still definitions with validity through agreement. Definitions that don't even define anything really, I mean what is 'science'?
Quote:


the search for knowledge

Quote:
Have you ever seen it?


science is EVERYWHERE

Quote:
What is 'philosophy'?


thinking upon

Quote:
Have you seen that either?


I have

in my minds eye


Quote:
It's amazing how much there isn't, and how much defining hat goes on to that of only conceptual agreements...


then back to reality

hence my being at the north pole , without clothes , example

I will freeze to death , really I will

arguments against.....
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 09:36 pm
@north,
Quote:
hence my being at the north pole , without clothes , example

I will freeze to death , really I will

arguments against...


That is one hell of an odd way of defending order but still I agree with it... Mr. Green

Brace for Wittgenstein counter... Cool
 

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