JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 08:41 pm
@north,
Right - validity through agreement, but if this is the case - that 'communication' you speak of could have been defined in any way. Why this way?
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 08:42 pm
@Fil Albuquerque,
Yes, the most 'fun' part is finding the answers!!!!! Such goodies!!!
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JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 08:45 pm
Sleep creates confusion.....
north
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 08:46 pm
@JPLosman0711,
JPLosman0711 wrote:

Right - validity through agreement, but if this is the case - that 'communication' you speak of could have been defined in any way. Why this way?


well , why not really ?
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 08:47 pm
@north,
No, the question is why define them to begin with - if they are what they are, where does this apparent 'need' to define come into play?
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 08:48 pm
@JPLosman0711,
ENTROPY IT IS THE BEST YET SIMULATED FACT IN THIS UNIVERSE...HOW USEFUL IT IS FOR MEANING...AND AGAINST "NIRVANA"...
north
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 08:50 pm
@JPLosman0711,
JPLosman0711 wrote:

No, the question is why define them to begin with - if they are what they are, where does this apparent 'need' to define come into play?


understanding them
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 08:51 pm
@Fil Albuquerque,
Yes but I believe we are all trying to achieve nirvana.......this cycle is starting to bore me to be honest.....this is my 4th time....
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 08:52 pm
@north,
What is going to happen is what's going to happen, what good does understanding do?
north
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 08:56 pm
@Fil Albuquerque,
Fil Albuquerque wrote:

ENTROPY IT IS THE BEST YET SIMULATED FACT IN THIS UNIVERSE...HOW USEFUL IT IS FOR MEANING


none , that I can see

Quote:
..AND AGAINST "NIRVANA"...


Nirvana disappears
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 08:57 pm
@JPLosman0711,
Perfection dreads itself...even if it not...simulating entropy seams to confirm this "need" of Being for phenomenological expression of itself...the need for dynamic, for infinity, although not beyond but quantity since all quality already exists...pattern repeatability "spices up" the boredom of Everythingness...One forgets and one learns...exactly as one is supposed...
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 08:58 pm
@north,
It disappears through forgetfulness(thank god)
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north
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 08:59 pm
@JPLosman0711,
JPLosman0711 wrote:

What is going to happen is what's going to happen, what good does understanding do?


change
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 09:01 pm
@Fil Albuquerque,
Right - this would conclude the 'need' for a finite instrument(human body, animal, plant etc) the phenomena of experience itself would indeed prove useless if it were constantly certain.
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JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 09:02 pm
@north,
Who wants change? Who would want it? Who defines a 'change' from lack thereof?
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 09:09 pm
One gets 'tired' due to the need for future planning of an 'easter egg hunt' for further prove of existence, if not for sleep - one would 'run out of' plans and no longer be able to prove it's existence and die.
north
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 09:11 pm
@JPLosman0711,
JPLosman0711 wrote:

Who wants change?


life

Quote:
Who would want it?


life

Quote:
Who defines a 'change' from lack thereof?


who ever the observer is that notices
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 09:11 pm
@JPLosman0711,
Yes...that seams plausible.
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 09:11 pm
@north,
Right, so isn't all of this really at YOUR discretion?
north
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 09:12 pm
@JPLosman0711,
JPLosman0711 wrote:

Right, so isn't all of this really at YOUR discretion?


no

it still has to be provable

hence my polar example
 

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