Mon 29 Jun, 2009 11:54 pm
Well, with the need to re-industrialize the United States and the potential and current dangers of both pollution and global warming, what is the best way to go about this? Obviously the proposed carbon tax is a hand out to current industrial entities and will do little to address the problems with pollution. This idea is doomed for failure. The continuation of bleeding tax dollars for highway projects for congested inner city traffic and air travel continues to display a failure to plan for the future. The American transportation system is not sustainable and funds must be shifted to revolutionary transportation systems. These are just a couple of examples of poor planning and the domination of corporate interests in the political realms.

So I ask, how should the country proceed in both industrial development and transportation that addresses both the pollution problem and global warming. Obviously, the subject is of importance to the entire world as different countries share the same water and atmosphere. Should there be a global emphasis on coming to a consensus for the direction of world development? Or should this problem be address on more local basis? What form of government would best be suited to protecting the environment (e.g. libertarian, communist, democratic, republic)?

Anyway, that should be a good place to begin for a very broad topic. If it becomes too broad I will break it up into more focused threads.
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BrightNoon
 
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Tue 30 Jun, 2009 02:05 am
@Theaetetus,
I don't mean to steal your thunder T., but the first thing needed to solve these problems is the realization that anthropogenic global warming is not occuring and that the natural climatic changes that are occuring do not present nearly the threat which Al Gore's animation of Miami underwater would suggest.

Basic evidence of this claim, which I will detail later (its a bit late on the east coast):

1. While there is a correlation between atmospheric CO2 levels and atmospheric temperature, it is not as it appears on cursory examination: as we got in Al Gore's propoganda. Increases in temperature have always preceded increases in CO2; likely because sea water contains more dissolved CO2 than is in the atmosphere and releases more when warmer. This explanation also accounts for the delay between rising temperature and rising CO2 that's evident in the record; i.e. oceans take centuries to warm or cool in response to changing atmospheric temperatures, as water has a very high specific heat.

2. CO2 is a very insignificant greenhouse gas. Water vapor accounts for well over 90% of all greenhouse warming. Moreover, human emmited CO2 accounts for a tiny fraction, well under 10%, of CO2 produced on earth and released into the atmosphere, which comes mainly from geothermal activity and micro-organisms.

3. The 'incredible' and 'unprecedented' rise in atmospheric temperature over the last century and a half is fictional. That data begins around the Monder minimum, one of the coldest periods in the last 10,000 years. In other words, the increase is more of a return to norality than a exceptional event.

4. Even this increase is suspect, because these measurements are based on ground temperature, in many cases at urban sites where there is a definite and well documented 'heat island' effect. In the last 25 years, satellite imagery shows virtually no increase in atmospheric temperature, as woukld be the case in there were greenhouse warming.

5. Finally, there is no a consenses amoung relavent scientists in the field. According to recent polls, almost 40% were either not sure about anthropogenic global warming, or were convinced that it did not exist.

More to come...night
salima
 
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Tue 30 Jun, 2009 03:24 am
@BrightNoon,
BrightNoon;73565 wrote:
I don't mean to steal your thunder T., but the first thing needed to solve these problems is the realization that anthropogenic global warming is not occuring and that the natural climatic changes that are occuring do not present nearly the threat which Al Gore's animation of Miami underwater would suggest.
More to come...night


i dont know if humanity is to blame or not, and that also makes me wonder if we can do anything about it. so we have to look at who is pushing for the proposed changes in trying to curb pollution and how will they benefit by them. some of the policies may be worth doing even if they wont have any effect on global warming. i would really like to think we are not significant enough to cause an ice age-there is such a thing as too much power.
hoping you will share your sources, and looking forward to update.

as far as the government, i am one of those who subscribe to the idea that any form of government would work if it was run by responsible human beings, but that hasnt happened yet. i think any one form of government you might want to choose known to man can botch it up equally well.
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Elmud
 
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Tue 30 Jun, 2009 05:11 am
@Theaetetus,
I wonder if Henry Fords invention would fall into Einsteins quote, "It is appallingly clear that our technology has surpassed our humanity". We have transportation, and that is a good thing, but, very expensive.
salima
 
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Tue 30 Jun, 2009 08:30 am
@Elmud,
Elmud;73592 wrote:
I wonder if Henry Fords invention would fall into Einsteins quote, "It is appallingly clear that our technology has surpassed our humanity". We have transportation, and that is a good thing, but, very expensive.



and in india our technology is surpassing our infrastructure. there are more cars than their are parking spaces and more motor scooters than there are roads. everyone says 'the roads are bad' but i always say it is only bad if you are driving-when i walk they are fine, and i dont see the cows or buffaloes or donkeys having any trouble either. the bullock carts and the tongas (horse drawn carriages) get by just fine. i think rather than building more roads we should get rid of the automobiles. but i know it is only wishfulthinking-in my utopia there are no gasoline engines. and no cars, only large vehicles like buses, trains, semis. i can dream anyway...
Aedes
 
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Tue 30 Jun, 2009 11:57 am
@Theaetetus,
Brightnoon your contentions are rendered moot by a towering opus of research to the contrary.

Be that as it may, we don't even need to invoke anthropogenic global warming to justify policy changes. The economic and political benefits of eschewing fossil fuels and the health benefits of decreasing pollution are justification enough.
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Theaetetus
 
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Tue 30 Jun, 2009 01:01 pm
@Theaetetus,
Bright Noon,

Sure Al Gore has been a major spokesperson for global warming, but that does not mean that he is the definitive voice of the issue. Most top atmospheric and oceanic scientists agree that humans are contributing to climate change. But in many ways that is besides the point, and fails to see the major issue with environmental change--pollution. Most of the processes that contribute to global warming also foul finite resources like air, water, and land.
RDRDRD1
 
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Wed 1 Jul, 2009 09:58 am
@Theaetetus,
Bright Noon wishes not to have this discussion. When he can establish his superior climate science credentials, fine. Until then, if he chooses not to discuss the topic he ought to be polite and move on.

Leaving aside the protests of the Flat Earth Society and borrowing a page from Lovelock, I think we're on the verge of accepting "sustainable retreat." We have to begin exploring ways to grow smaller, to curb consumption and to achieve some equitable balance with the "have nots."

A big part of the future involves decarbonization, shedding the carbon economy. It is entirely possible once some powerful lobbies are pushed aside and, the best part, there's a great deal of wealth to be generated in the process. We don't have to go to sackcloth and ashes to achieve this.

That said, we have to recognize that we're going to begin feeling what's happening in the most distant corners of the world as we never have before. Can't be stopped, can't be helped. That's because climate change is just one element of a web of inter-related challenges that will have to be met if we're to maintain our institutions and way of life. These include desertification, deforestation, air/land/water pollution, resource exhaustion, species extinction, nuclear proliferation, terrorism and global security imbalances (there are others).

How are we going to solve these? In part by recognizing the common threads in their creation and growth - overpopulation, over-exploitation of resources and the stubborn continuation of 19th century capitalist industrialism in a 21st century environment.

And what if we don't solve these and soon? Here's an excellent, 3-part documentary on what lies in store:

CBC Radio | Ideas | Features | Climate Wars

The author, Gwynne Dyer, has served as an officer in three navies, the US Navy among them. He has a doctorate in war studies from the University of London. He has been a lecturer at the Royal Military Academy, Sandhurst (Britain's West Point) and at Oxford. He brings a deliberately calm and understated approach to his work. Dyer, relying on an incredible number of interviews with the best and brightest political, scientific and military minds, explains what the Pentagon and British Ministry of Defence understand - that, the effects of climate change already happening along with the associated and looming freshwater crisis, will likely cause a collapse in global food stocks, particularly in the more populated and also nuclear-armed nations of China and India.

Listen to these, if you dare. You're bound to find them fascinating - and disturbing.
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Elmud
 
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Wed 1 Jul, 2009 07:28 pm
@salima,
salima;73662 wrote:
and in india our technology is surpassing our infrastructure. there are more cars than their are parking spaces and more motor scooters than there are roads. everyone says 'the roads are bad' but i always say it is only bad if you are driving-when i walk they are fine, and i dont see the cows or buffaloes or donkeys having any trouble either. the bullock carts and the tongas (horse drawn carriages) get by just fine. i think rather than building more roads we should get rid of the automobiles. but i know it is only wishfulthinking-in my utopia there are no gasoline engines. and no cars, only large vehicles like buses, trains, semis. i can dream anyway...

I guess what stands out to me, other than the obvious pollution ,especially in the big cities, that automobiles produce, is the human lives that are lost, and the animals that you see laying along side of the roads. These two thousand pound missiles not only produce poison into the atmosphere, but they kill as well. I just don't think they're natural. But, I drive one too. Maybe one day, we'll have a different way of transportation.
BrightNoon
 
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Wed 1 Jul, 2009 11:28 pm
@Elmud,
I am not a climate scientist, but the arguments and facts that I presented were taken from a report created by climate and other scientists. Below is the report. Rather than summarize again some of the material, I'll suggest that you look it over yourselves.

http://www.oism.org/pproject/GWReview_OISM600.pdf

Associated with the report is a petition signed by these scientists, who demand that these findings be acknowledged.

The following is a very incomplete list of the signatories in very small font, containing only those people with last names beginning with A and B. For a full list, see the main site: oism.org

Earl M. Aagaard, PhD, Charles W. Aami, Roger L. Aamodt, PhD, Wilbur A. Aanes, M. Robert Aaron, Ralph F. Abate, Hamed K. Abbas, PhD, Paul Abbett, Wyatt E. Abbitt III, Ursula K. Abbott, PhD, Bernaard J. Abbott, PhD, David M. Abbott Jr., Frank D. Abbott, Paul Abbott, Donald W. Abbott, Douglas R. Abbott, David J. Abbott, Eugene Abbott, Refaat A. Abdel-Malek, PhD, Riaz F. Abdulla, PhD, Albert S. Abdullah, DVM, Alan E. Abel, Jason Abel, Janis I. Abele, Joseph M. Abell, Robert E. Abell, Gene H. Abels, MD, Philip H. Abelson, PhD*, Wayne Aben, Jerrold Abernathy, Marshall W. Abernathy, Grady L. Ables, Earl Arthur Abrahamson, PhD, Robert C. Abrams, Carl M. Abrams, Alan V. Abrams, MD, Paul B. Abramson, PhD, Jose L. Abreu Jr., Joe L. Abriola Jr., Ahmed E. Aburahmah, PhD, Austin R. Ace, David A. Acerni, John W. Achee Sr., Billy R. Achmbaugh, Paul Achmidt, Daniel T. Achord, PhD, Ernest R. Achterberg, Ava V. Ackerman, DVM, William L. Ackerman, John R. Ackerman, Gene L. Ackerman, Richard E. Ackermann, Terry D. Ackman, Donald O. Acrey, Lee Actor, Humberto M. Acuna Jr., Robert K. Adair, PhD, William G. Adair Jr., Daniel Otis Adam, PhD, Brian D. Adam, PhD, Chris Adam, Anthony F. Adamo, George Baker Adams, PhD, Neil Adams, PhD, Leonard Caldwell Adams, PhD, Phillip Adams, PhD, Harold Elwood Adams, PhD, Gail D. Adams, PhD, Roy Melville Adams, PhD, Louis W. Adams, PhD, John Edgar Adams, PhD, Gerald J. Adams, PhD, Wilton T. Adams, PhD, William M. Adams, PhD, Brook W. Adams, Lewis R. Adams, William John Adams, Steven W. Adams, John Adams, William P. Adams, Dwight L. Adams, MD, Dell H. Adams, Ann S. Adams, Bryan C. Adams, Anthony W. Adams, MD, Richard L. Adams, William W. Adams, Eugene Adams, Walter F. Adams, Henry J. Adams, Richard Ernest Adams, Donald Adams, Opal Adams, Howard J. Adams, Richard W. Adams, MD, George F. Adams, Kent A. Adams, Daniel B. Adams Jr., N. Adams, Steve W. Adams, William D. Adams, Roy B. Adams, Jim D. Adams, William J. Adams Jr., Albert H. 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Theaetetus
 
  1  
Wed 1 Jul, 2009 11:56 pm
@Theaetetus,
The problem though, is that when society produces these "greenhouse gases," they often produce many other toxic by-products that do harm the environment and doing irreparable damage to ecosystems. For example one major pollutant given off from burning coal is sulfur dioxide.
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RDRDRD1
 
  1  
Wed 1 Jul, 2009 11:58 pm
@BrightNoon,
Why don't you read some of the critiques of this petition? Try to find out how many of those signatures have been gamed or are simply people with no more expertise in this than yourself. The only person you're convincing is yourself and that appears to be pushing on an open door.
BrightNoon
 
  1  
Thu 2 Jul, 2009 12:09 am
@RDRDRD1,
Why don't you show me some evidence that any of these signatories were 'gamed,' or present some of the critiques, or provide links to them? Is there such evidence? Are there such critiques? The only evidence for enthropogenic global warming that I've ever seen, as opposed to statements in the media which claim without references that there is evidence, consists of computer models, which thus far have spectacularly failed to accurately model reality as we observe it at present. Call me crazy, but I'll take actual, empiric observation over theoretical modelling anyday. Moreover, a computer model is only as good as the assumptions built into it; as they say in the computer industry, garbage in, garbage out.

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Theaetetus;74212 wrote:
The problem though, is that when society produces these "greenhouse gases," they often produce many other toxic by-products that do harm the environment and doing irreparable damage to ecosystems. For example one major pollutant given off from burning coal is sulfur dioxide.


That's very true. However, there are ways to reduce emissions of truly toxic substances without abandoning fossil fuels. Exceptng nuclear power, which is a perfectly safe and incredibly efficient source, there is nothing which can replace fossil fuels any time soon. Frankly, I don't think its possible for humanity to bridge the gap, so to speak; i.e. to replace fossil fuels before before an energy deficit arises and reduces societal complexity. Of course, abandoning fossil fuels prematurely because of imaginary threats makes the problem so much worse.

I'd recomend watching Chris Martenson's 'Crash Course,' parts 17a, 17b, 17c, and 18.

Chris Martenson | chapters - The Crash Course - chapters, Crash Course, Economy, Energy, environment, Peak Oil, videos
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Theaetetus
 
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Thu 2 Jul, 2009 12:25 am
@Theaetetus,
You are focusing solely what comes out of the media. The media is often run by corporate interests (e.g. G.E.'s hands in NBC). They do not report on most environmental news because they do not employ employees that are capable of doing true scientific reporting. They are not running around trying to get interviews with oceanic and atmospheric scientist that have been studying this phenomenon for decades. Instead, they are receiving much of their information from press reports sent out by government agencies, politicians, and corporations. As a former editor-in-chief of a newspaper, I know how much trash fills press releases, and how much editors and writers rely on that bogus, self-serving information.

I just did a quick seach on Google Scholar for that paper that had the link posted, "Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide," and it showed a measly 39 citations. If it actually had as much academic backing as that list of signers would suggest, it would have a stirred a far more rigorous debate. And the ones that do mention it, only do so in passing, rather that offering rigorous rebuttals or an expansion of the ideas presented.
BrightNoon
 
  1  
Thu 2 Jul, 2009 12:34 am
@Theaetetus,
I'd imagine there aren't many citations because the arguments are extremely simple. The main argument is simply that, according to the record as obtained from tree ring and ice core data, along with surface temperature readings, increases in CO2 have historically followed temperature increase, and thus could not have caused those inceases. What else can one say? It's pretty basic logic; causes precede their efffects; ergo, rising CO2 cannot be the cause of rising temperature. The other main argument is that, while there is not a good correspondence between industrialization and temperature rise according to the data, there is a strong correspondence between solar activity and temperature. Again, this is pretty simple. Correllation is not causation, but lack of correllation is obviously NOT causation. I don't think either of us are really qualified to examine this in detail, but from my perspective, these basic facts, drawn from peer reviewed studies, are very convincing. Moreover, until someone proves that these people were conned, a huge number of very highly educated people agree.

EDIT: I misunderstood you. I thought you meant that the paper made only 39 citations of other papers. It made 132. You meant that it was cited only 39 times? Well, what can I say. I don't know if that's significant or not.
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Theaetetus
 
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Thu 2 Jul, 2009 01:49 am
@Theaetetus,
The paper has been sited in other works only 39 times. Sure the paper may cite over 100 other sources, but it is easy to cherry pick statistics--I know, I have done it before on papers in the past. The fact that it is only cited in 39 other works, and none of them from what I could tell, were major scientific papers. If something vehemently opposes what much of the scientific community has churned out for 30 years, many more people in academia would address the paper.

With that said, I would spend more time to read the paper if I thought it was worthy of my time. It is printed in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons. That raises flags. The paper itself is not really scientific. It may use analysis, but it does not seriously address experimentation, because all the paper represents is a literature review, which are very easy to skew by picking and choosing data to make the case stronger.

But don't you think that this paper would receive more attention if that many people in the scientific community had signed the petition?
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RDRDRD1
 
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Thu 2 Jul, 2009 07:41 am
@Theaetetus,
Brightnoon, why is it you claim not to be able to find what's right before your eyes? Among other sites, including your own government's, you can readily find the IPCC and you can then read their consensus reports. It's a bit disingenuous for you to demand that others post hundreds of pages of corroborative information when you're patently unwilling to look at what's readily at hand anyway. No one is going to persuade you that the earth is not flat.
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Aedes
 
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Thu 2 Jul, 2009 07:48 am
@BrightNoon,
BrightNoon;74210 wrote:
I am not a climate scientist, but the arguments and facts that I presented were taken from a report created by climate and other scientists. Below is the report. Rather than summarize again some of the material, I'll suggest that you look it over yourselves.
And I'd suggest you take a few minutes to see how many of those people are actual climate scientists. Very very few of them. :sarcastic:

Here's a tally so far, going in order:
Earl M. Aagaard -- no publications
Charles W. Aami -- no publications
Roger L. Aamodt -- 49 total publications, mostly about zinc metabolism
Wilbur A. Aanes -- 16 articles about injuries in horses
M. Robert Aaron -- 17 publications about digital/analog signal conversion
Ralph F. Abate -- no publications
Hamed K. Abbas -- 63 publications about toxin biosynthesis in fungi

Shall I go on? That's a daunting tally of expertise on climate change...
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kennethamy
 
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Thu 2 Jul, 2009 08:14 am
@Elmud,
Elmud;73592 wrote:
I wonder if Henry Fords invention would fall into Einsteins quote, "It is appallingly clear that our technology has surpassed our humanity". We have transportation, and that is a good thing, but, very expensive.


Yes, let us return to the pollution in the city streets caused by horse transportation. That pollution of horse feces all over the place, was many times worse than carbon, and now, with the many-fold increase in population, and the need for more transportation, would be overwhelming, and impossible to tolerate. So we would not have efficient transportation, and also, far worse pollution. Good thinking!
RDRDRD1
 
  1  
Thu 2 Jul, 2009 09:44 am
@Theaetetus,
Assuming we're going to continue this discussion without allowing Brightnoon to derail it (we accept you don't believe it but we're not here to prove anything to you), I thought I'd bring up the subject of the emerging economies and the Third World and how they intend to argue environmental ethics and justice.

An article in today's Times of India reveals how they're going to focus on "carbon space" in conjunction with presenting the West's profligate energy use as a plague of gluttony and greed for which they, and the Third Worlders, are paying the price. It's a clever but apparently effective tactic to draw the Third World into their fold, leaving the West isolated. Here is the thrust of the argument:

"If the current fleet of 25-40 million gas-guzzling sport utility vehicles (SUVs) in the United States were to shift to more fuel-efficient cars such as those available in Europe, more than 1.6 billion people in the world currently living in the dark can be provided electrification without any increase in the levels of greenhouse gases that lead to climate change.

"Phasing out the oversized, power-packed SUVs, considered the hallmark of a Midwestern dream in the US, would reduce global emissions by a whopping 36 million tonnes of carbon dioxide annually, according to the World Bank's yet-to-be-released World Development Report 2009.


"This is only one example of the "duplicity" of the industrialized nations that the WDR highlights to prove that "carbon space" is inequitably powering the luxurious lifestyles of the rich at the cost of the poorer nations. Carbon space is an individual's or a country's share of greenhouse gas emissions in the atmosphere.

"The report, the draft overview of which was seen by TOI, now points out that the 1 billion people living in the high income countries are using 63% more carbon space than is their fair share on a per capita basis if one were to analyze the emissions since 1990.

"India, for decades, has demanded at the UN climate negotiations that it must be given a greater 'carbon space' in the atmosphere to allow its 600 million poor access to electricity. The industrialized nations have argued that if India grows and powers its poor, the already limited space left in the atmosphere to spew out GHG gases would lead to irreversible and dangerous climate change."

What India is planning is to take our cherished Western ideals of fairness and equity and club us over the head with them. Instead of vague promises of such and such a percentage reduction in emissions by this date or that, the Indians are shifting the focus to "carbon space."

The Indians are relying on two studies released this year that have identified the amount of carbon dioxide the earth's atmosphere can handle before triggering unacceptable warming (the 2 degree target). They looked at pre-industrial levels, how much has been added since and then worked out a remarkably specific estimate for the permissible balance.

Once you've reached that point the only question remains who gets how much of the remaining capacity? The Indians want to fix quotas. And they want it done on a per capita basis. The snag is that would require the West to implement an immediate, 63% carbon emissions reduction.

The worst part of India's argument (for us anyway) is that it doesn't seek redress for emissions imbalances of the past. They can point to our greed and gluttony instead to reinforce their argument for a per capita allocation of the remaining "carbon space."

Here's the rub. I know, you know and the Indians along with everyone else knows that the West isn't willing to shut down tomorrow to achieve the identified 63% emissions cuts. So, how do we respond?

Can we ethically claim that we need those SUVs to fetch our groceries? Can we ignore them and maintain that we must continue to have a superior claim to the remaining carbon space? Do we fall back on might is right?

It strikes me that there are a few arguments available to the West. One is to tell India (and China) that it bears responsibility for the inevitable effects of its 1.3-billiion strong overpopulation. Another might be to argue that, if they won't see it our way on overpopulation, quotas ought to be allocated taking into account several factors, including each nation's landmass. Living in an enormously underpopulated country like Canada, that last one has an obvious appeal.

But in all seriousness, this climate change debate may force us to devise a new philosophy for how we all shall interact in the future.

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Kennethamy, nobody is talking about a return to horsedrawn anything. You're setting up straw men to show you can knock them down. Anything serious to say?
 

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