1
   

Howard Deans "Foot in Mouth" disease

 
 
Reply Fri 7 Nov, 2003 08:29 am
Howard Dean has been successfully following Jimmy Carter's strategy of telling his audience what ever they want to hear and that may work to win his party's nomination but he just destroyed any chance he ever had of beating Bush-----by alienating the south.

Can Dean sell this to pickup crowd?
By CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER

Howard Dean wants the white trash vote. That's not exactly what he said, but that's clearly what he meant when he said he wanted the votes of "guys with Confederate flags in their pickup trucks." It was a beautiful moment. It produced at the very next Democratic debate the perfect liberal storm: a comedy of class snobbery, regional condescension and political correctness, with a touch of race-baiting thrown in for good measure.

It began with a student at the CNN debate on Tuesday declaring himself offended by Dean's remark. It included the ever-reliable Al Sharpton charging Dean with cuddling up to Stonewall Jackson. It was highlighted by Dean saying, in essence, that he is not a Confederate -- indeed, it seemed, that every candidate was ready to declare undying allegiance to Lincoln and the Union -- but that if the Democratic Party wanted to compete it would have to go after poor Southern whites.

Then, the loveliest touch of them all. Constrained by the ruling Democratic dogma that everyone, even your rebel-yelling racist redneck, is a victim, Dean absolved these yahoos of responsibility by explaining that responsibility really lies with those nasty Republicans who taught them their racism: "I think there are (a) lot of poor people who fly that flag because the Republicans have been dividing us by race since 1968 with their Southern race strategy."

And to show how ecumenical is his belief in outreach, he cited the fact that Jesse Jackson had just last week visited a trailer park full of white, um, folks: "We need to reach out to those people, too."

Those people? All this proved a bit much for John Edwards, whose knowledge of the South is firsthand and not anthropological. Edwards, who grew up white, working class and Southern, made the devastatingly correct observation that Dean's problem is not racism but condescension.

Edwards is too politic to say it, but it's not hard to read the subtext of his rejoinder -- that this snob from the very White Mountains of New England thinks we Southerners are the kind of trash James Carville once said (of Paula Jones) you find by dragging a $100 bill through a trailer park. You could almost hear Edwards saying: Vote for me, another Southern white like Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton -- winners both -- rather than another effete Northerner, this one from the mean streets of Montpelier.

It was quite a show. As always, the Democratic candidates were trying to play Everyman. Edwards, like Gephardt and Lieberman, can carry it off because his humble roots are genuine. Dean has succeeded in playing Everyman by being Angry Man. But anger is a sometime thing, hard to sustain day in and day out, while Dean's Yalie, moneyed blueblood roots (remarkably similar to those of the man he would like to run against) are forever.

They came bursting out with the pickup truck remark. Is he disciplined enough to keep himself from dropping the mask again? I doubt it.

The bigger problem for all of them, however, once they work out their personas, is what are they going to talk about? The recent economic news was a devastating blow to their White House chances. The Democrats tried the "worst economy since the Great Depression" in 1992 and it worked. They have been trying that theme again all through this year. Alas, it becomes an absurdity when the economy grows at 7.2 percent.

It must be admitted that rarely have the authorities in any government applied more stimulus to the U.S. economy: taxes are cut, twice; interest rates are reduced to historic lows; the dollar is cheap; and the deficit, $374 billion and counting, is exerting a massive Keynesian stimulus. Democrats could reasonably argue that any economy that did not respond to this kind of stimulus would have to be termed clinically dead. But they cannot claim it, because they opposed the principal stimulus, the tax cuts, the obvious countercyclical response to the recessionary effects of the bursting of the high-tech bubble in 2000.

My guess is that if the economy is neutralized as an issue by growth in 2004, the election will become a referendum on Iraq. More Americans already believe that the president is doing a poor job on Iraq rather than a good one. If things continue to deteriorate, the Democrats will likely gravitate to the left and to the candidate who was the most opposed to the war in the first place -- and who might most plausibly argue for withdrawal.

Question is: Can Howard Dean sell that to the guy with a Confederate flag in his pickup?

Krauthammer is a Pulitzer Prize-winning syndicated columnist based in Washington, D.C.

Return to top
  • Topic Stats
  • Top Replies
  • Link to this Topic
Type: Discussion • Score: 1 • Views: 1,061 • Replies: 16
No top replies

 
Joe Nation
 
  1  
Reply Fri 7 Nov, 2003 08:42 am
I didn't think Dean handled the other's criticism very well. Al Sharpton, all puffed up, saying 'you can't come to the table of brotherhood with the Confederate flag', Dean should have rejoined "Look you dope, I'm trying to reach all the people, if you reach out to people in the right way you get them to join you and in the process stop doing stupid things like flying the Confederate Flag."

Ah, lost moments.
0 Replies
 
perception
 
  1  
Reply Fri 7 Nov, 2003 09:03 am
Glad you noticed Al Sharpton's bluff and bluster with zero substance-----he is an embarrassment to all African Americans.
0 Replies
 
Joe Nation
 
  1  
Reply Fri 7 Nov, 2003 09:07 am
Oh my gosh we agree on something, perception! I have followed the Rev. Sharpton career for a number of years and prayed, and I do not pray as a general rule, for him to be afflicted with something akin to the deafness I prayed for and got for Rush Limbaugh, only in Al's case I pray for muteness. No luck so far. Cool
0 Replies
 
perception
 
  1  
Reply Fri 7 Nov, 2003 10:33 am
Gee----I hope this isn't the only topic we ever agree upon----I hope(I don't pray) you lefties suddenly find the light switch----until then it appears you will never find your way out of the maze. Very Happy Just kidding Joe---if we really tried to communicate we might find some common ground.
0 Replies
 
Joe Nation
 
  1  
Reply Fri 7 Nov, 2003 10:43 am
Quote:
if we really tried to communicate we might find some common ground.


I think that was what Dean meant.
0 Replies
 
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Reply Fri 7 Nov, 2003 10:45 am
There is no such thing as bad publicity -- there is just publicity.

Mock Dean all you want -- but Bush and this motley crew has got to go -- and Dean may be the only real alternative available next November.

He seems to be doing what these others simply don't have the balls to do.
0 Replies
 
perception
 
  1  
Reply Fri 7 Nov, 2003 11:01 am
Frank

Regarding replacing Bush-----I hope your expectations haven't reached the point where your brain will implode if it doesn't happen.

Just think of all the money we will save on administration transition expenditures and the sheer pain of watching everything down to janitors reshuffled in Washington. Can you imagine also how sick you will be when after he gets his inauguation dose of reality( the big briefing) and he doesn't change a thing. I don't want you come apart because for someone who enjoys a good game of golf----you can't be all bad.
0 Replies
 
patiodog
 
  1  
Reply Fri 7 Nov, 2003 11:18 am
Dean has already mentioned cutting social security benefits (which will eventually have to happen to keep the system alive, along with raising the taxable level of income for social security and raising the -- that is, my -- retirement age, but it's political suicide, which will surely bite him in the ass with the nation's most influential voting bloc - senior citizens. He'll either have to abandon the idea (risky, since some opponent will surely dredge it up) or stick with (even riskier, because of the number of avid voters he will alienate).

I kind of doubt the economy will be a non-issue unless we start to see some new jobs. 7% growth with no new jobs is great -- if you've already got money and security. Without jobs, though, there's a still a big political weapon to be used against Bush.

Thing with Dean, though, is that his biggest supporters are toward the left of his party, whereas the election -- as always -- will determine on where the undecideds (whoever the hell they are) land and who old folks think best represent their interests.

But I'm probably wrong...
0 Replies
 
Portal Star
 
  1  
Reply Fri 7 Nov, 2003 03:30 pm
I think Dean's too far left to win the race, although that's good for the primaries. He's nearly socialist, and certainly won't get the "bubba" vote. I wish they were running someone more moderate against Bush.
0 Replies
 
patiodog
 
  1  
Reply Fri 7 Nov, 2003 03:55 pm
It's very early yet...
0 Replies
 
ebrown p
 
  1  
Reply Sun 9 Nov, 2003 07:49 am
Portal Star,

Dean is nowhere near socialist! (I know becuase *I* am nearly socialist and Dean seems quite conservative).

From a historical perspective Dean's policies are pretty moderate. I think you are just getting confused by comparing them with the current administration.)
0 Replies
 
Portal Star
 
  1  
Reply Sun 9 Nov, 2003 12:40 pm
hmm... He wants gov't-provided medical care for everyone, affirmative action, and I think welfare. He's socialist in terms of wanting many strong government sponsored social programs, funded by redistribution of tax money. He's not -a- socialist, but he's close to socialism is his views.

Why are you a socialist? Do you want socialism implemented in America?
0 Replies
 
ebrown p
 
  1  
Reply Sun 9 Nov, 2003 12:58 pm
hmm...

I think most Americans want medical care for everyone (how to get there is a bit of a question).

Affirmative action is controversial, but supporting it to some level is also not an extreme or fringe position today.

Dean is left of center - no doubt, but he is *very* close to the center. Kusinich for example is considerably further left, and less electable than Dean.

All of these positions are well within the mainstream. Charging Dean with "Socialism" is reactionary and displays a certain political ignorance.

And as for my political position... well that's for another thread.
0 Replies
 
Portal Star
 
  1  
Reply Tue 11 Nov, 2003 11:26 am
I have a feeling he'll go a lot father left than he's letting on if he get's elected. No, he's not toward center. On a ten point scale where 5 is median, ten is racidal right and 0 is radical left, I'd say he's a 2.

Hmm, yes we'll have to talk about that in another thread.
0 Replies
 
ebrown p
 
  1  
Reply Tue 11 Nov, 2003 11:43 am
Maybe, but a lot of us feel this way 'bout Bush.
0 Replies
 
Portal Star
 
  1  
Reply Tue 11 Nov, 2003 02:56 pm
I'm not sure. I think bush supports some social programs and government regulation of business, so I wouldn't say he's as far right as dean is left, but that's a personal judgement. If he gets elected for 2nd term, he'll probably do everything in his presidential power to eliminate abortion. He'll probably also continue involving our military in nation non-war international affairs.
0 Replies
 
 

Related Topics

Obama '08? - Discussion by sozobe
Let's get rid of the Electoral College - Discussion by Robert Gentel
McCain's VP: - Discussion by Cycloptichorn
Food Stamp Turkeys - Discussion by H2O MAN
The 2008 Democrat Convention - Discussion by Lash
McCain is blowing his election chances. - Discussion by McGentrix
Snowdon is a dummy - Discussion by cicerone imposter
TEA PARTY TO AMERICA: NOW WHAT?! - Discussion by farmerman
 
  1. Forums
  2. » Howard Deans "Foot in Mouth" disease
Copyright © 2024 MadLab, LLC :: Terms of Service :: Privacy Policy :: Page generated in 0.03 seconds on 05/03/2024 at 10:25:58