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Mexico Calls On the US to Violate Our Constitutional Gun Rights

 
 
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 24 May, 2010 01:25 pm
@oralloy,
The world often calls on the USA to do what is moral and just. Sadly, it all too often declines.
fbaezer
 
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Reply Mon 24 May, 2010 07:17 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

[But it is certainly true that America's right to have assault weapons trumps every single life in Mexico, so if it really did make a difference, that would just be too bad.


The Ugly American has spoken.
roger
 
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Reply Mon 24 May, 2010 07:43 pm
@fbaezer,
I went to your quote link, the article linked to, and all the comments. I did not find what you quoted.
fbaezer
 
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Reply Mon 24 May, 2010 07:53 pm
@roger,
It's the last paragraph of the last Oralloy post before mine, Roger.

plainoldme
 
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Reply Mon 24 May, 2010 07:55 pm
@dlowan,
I think orally is a sock puppet
plainoldme
 
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Reply Mon 24 May, 2010 07:56 pm
@oralloy,
Somehow, I have the feeling that very few agree with your definition of freedom
roger
 
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Reply Mon 24 May, 2010 07:58 pm
@fbaezer,
I apologize. He actually did say that.
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 24 May, 2010 08:01 pm
@roger,
Do you know how to use "Ctrl F", Roger? The 'F' stands for 'find'.

1. On any page, hit 'Ctrl F'. A small box will appear in the top right corner of the page.

2. Type in one word or a few words from the text you want to find. It will become highlighted on the page.
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failures art
 
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Reply Mon 24 May, 2010 09:08 pm
@fbaezer,
fbaezer wrote:

oralloy wrote:

[But it is certainly true that America's right to have assault weapons trumps every single life in Mexico, so if it really did make a difference, that would just be too bad.


The Ugly American has spoken.


Oralloy - You can't honestly mean this. If you do, I think you have demonstrated the lack of good judgment in which should be required to hold the kind of power and responsibility gun ownership comes with.

Your right to own an assault weapon is NOT more important than someone else's life. Especially, since you may own other forms of firearms.

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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 24 May, 2010 10:20 pm
@failures art,
Quote:
Oralloy - You can't honestly mean this.


You have to ask, FA?
failures art
 
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Reply Mon 24 May, 2010 10:32 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

Quote:
Oralloy - You can't honestly mean this.


You have to ask, FA?

Asking is to give the benefit of the doubt.
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 24 May, 2010 11:04 pm
@failures art,
I guess.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 24 May, 2010 11:28 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
The world often calls on the USA to do what is moral and just. Sadly, it all too often declines.


It would be moral and just for us to refuse to give up our freedom.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 24 May, 2010 11:29 pm
@fbaezer,
fbaezer wrote:
oralloy wrote:
[But it is certainly true that America's right to have assault weapons trumps every single life in Mexico, so if it really did make a difference, that would just be too bad.


The Ugly American has spoken.


The free American has spoken.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 24 May, 2010 11:29 pm
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:
I think orally is a sock puppet


I think you've found a new term and are throwing it around every chance you get, despite the fact that you don't understand its proper usage.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 24 May, 2010 11:30 pm
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:
Somehow, I have the feeling that very few agree with your definition of freedom


Nope. There are a whole bunch of us red-blooded Americans who are never going to give up our freedom.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 24 May, 2010 11:32 pm
@failures art,
failures art wrote:
fbaezer wrote:
oralloy wrote:

[But it is certainly true that America's right to have assault weapons trumps every single life in Mexico, so if it really did make a difference, that would just be too bad.


The Ugly American has spoken.


Oralloy - You can't honestly mean this. If you do, I think you have demonstrated the lack of good judgment in which should be required to hold the kind of power and responsibility gun ownership comes with.

Your right to own an assault weapon is NOT more important than someone else's life. Especially, since you may own other forms of firearms.

A
R
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My right to own assault weapons is more important than *everyone's* life.

But there was more to my post than just that.

For instance, there is the fact that even if we did give up freedom in America, the gangs would just get their assault rifles somewhere else. The world is flooded with them.

And there is the fact that the gangs would still kill people even if it really were possible to deprive them of assault rifles.

So really, Mexico is asking us to give up our freedom for no reason at all.

But we will never give up our freedom. Ever.
failures art
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2010 12:53 am
@oralloy,
You're not making any sense here.

Your right to own firearms does not trump any other right, less so the rights other have to be alive.

The fact that gangs will get weapons elsewhere is a lame poit as well. As is, they choose to get their weapons from us because it is the easiest and cheapest way. The point here should be to make it as difficualt as possible to obtain these kinds of weapons. Americans would not be giving up freedom by putting the ban in effect. That's such a vacant statement.

If the inability to own an assault rifle is tantamount to a loss of freedom, then how did freedom exist prior to the assault rifle? If this is the case, then we aren't free until the invention of the laser rifle! This is silly. You do not need the ability to buy an assault rifle to be free.

Your disregaurd for the lives of the Mexicans caught in these violent bloodbaths is chilling.

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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2010 03:24 am
@ebrown p,
ebrown p wrote:
Giving money and assault weapons [EVERY weapon is an "assault weapon" David] to Narcotrafficers,
some of the most evil, vicious thugs ever,
so they can earn great profits while killing families and police officers isn't intolerable?
The inconvenience of Mexicans does NOT enlarge federal jd to violate the Bill of Rights,
but REPEAL of anti-drug laws, acknowledging that government has NO jd to prevent
any citizen from ingesting anything of his choice (if he owns it) will end the smuggling
of drugs into America and end Mexico 's problems as a conduit.





David
failures art
 
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Reply Tue 25 May, 2010 06:17 am
@OmSigDAVID,
While, I don't share your opinion on guns, I think we'd find some common ground on the matter of fighting the drug cartels by removing many drug's illegal status. Namely marijuana.

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