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Barrier Reef oil spill April 4, 2010

 
 
farmerman
 
  2  
Reply Tue 20 Apr, 2010 08:11 pm
@Ionus,
Now you realize that being a misogynist may not be the position you wish to portray. So sounds like you will be separating from your conjoined twin aspendy.

Is it difficult speaking out of both sides of your mouth like you do? You seem to have a lot of experience Your Anus.
Ionus
 
  -2  
Reply Tue 20 Apr, 2010 08:29 pm
@farmerman,
Quote:
Now you realize that being a misogynist may not be the position you wish to portray.
What is wrong with you ? Just because you forget what was said in the post before doesnt mean everyone else will...I am happy to hate libbies as they are emotionally damaged women whinging about not being men and how other women are better looking.

Quote:
Is it difficult speaking out of both sides of your mouth like you do? You seem to have a lot of experience Your Anus.
Oh dear...you really need a trip to the barn at midnight. And please dont talk about your fav obsession...an anus.
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Diest TKO
 
  4  
Reply Tue 20 Apr, 2010 08:45 pm
@Ionus,
Ionus wrote:
Go start it yourself ya lazy PC thug.

You're the one that wants to talk about it so much you came into a thread about a shipwreck and actively try to derail the topic.

There's no bullies here, just you and spendi acting out to get the attention you so crave.

I don't really agree with georgeob1's attitude on this topic, but at least I can appreciate that he's on topic. You were too for a while, but you've wandered off into Spendiville. It's where this is a public forum with spectators all dying to hear your thoughts about females in coal mines, in an otherwise active thread about commercial shipping safety practices and ecological concerns.

I think you hit the reef too.

T
K
O
dlowan
 
  1  
Reply Tue 20 Apr, 2010 09:26 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

Now you realize that being a misogynist may not be the position you wish to portray. So sounds like you will be separating from your conjoined twin aspendy.

Is it difficult speaking out of both sides of your mouth like you do? You seem to have a lot of experience Your Anus.


I think they're the same person. They're so...er...dank.

Ionus only pretends to be Ozzian.

Has anyone ever seen them post AT THE EXACT SAME TIME IN THE SAME THREAD?


Oh wait...you can do that if you have two browsers open at the same time.

Damn.
dlowan
 
  1  
Reply Tue 20 Apr, 2010 09:27 pm
@Diest TKO,
I think they ARE wannabe bullies. They're just failures at it.
dlowan
 
  2  
Reply Tue 20 Apr, 2010 09:36 pm
@dlowan,
Meanwhile, in the world that sane people inhabit, and back to the topic, experts examine and discuss the damage to the reef:



Quote:
T COULD take 20 years or more for the Great Barrier Reef to recover from three kilometres of destruction caused by the grounding of a Chinese coal ship, authorities have revealed.

The Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority says the damage to the reef is significant, with large parts of Douglas Shoal "completely flattened" and marine life "pulverised".

The refloated Shen Neng 1 has been moved to an area behind Great Keppel Island to protect it from incoming bad weather. It is expected to remain there for three or four days while divers check the condition of the hull.

In a briefing yesterday, the marine park authority's chief scientist, Dr David Wachenfeld, said the main concern for the shoal now was that toxic paint scraped off the vessel's hull could be killing coral and other marine life.


Full story here:

http://www.theage.com.au/environment/three-kilometres-of-great-barrier-reef-damage-20-years-to-mend-20100413-s7p8.html



Quote:
Clean-up crews on way to oil spill on island
April 14, 2010


Clean-up crews on way to oil spill on island
April 14, 2010

The damage caused by the ship is shown in this photo taken on April 3 and released by the Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority.
Crews are on their way to a Great Barrier Reef island to clean up oil that's fouling a world famous turtle hatchery and bird sanctuary.

Maritime Safety Queensland says oil believed to have come from the refloated coal carrier Shen Neng 1 has fouled up to a kilometre of the coral key.

The island is just 10 nautical miles (18 kilometres) from where the ship ran aground on Douglas Shoal on April 3, causing up to four tonnes of heavy fuel oil to leak.


MSQ general manager Patrick Quirk says clean-up crews and environmental experts will arrive on the island this morning.

"We have helicopter taking off from the Gladstone airport at seven o'clock. We have staff on those helicopters who are specialists in beach clean up," he told the ABC.

"It is important we get to the oil as soon as we can."

Mr Quirk said he was hopeful the clean-up would be able to remove much of the oil.

"It hasn't come ashore in large globules or carpets.

"Our advice from the rangers on the island is that it's at the top of the tide line in patches, and that gives us some comfort.
:


http://www.smh.com.au/environment/conservation/cleanup-crews-on-way-to-oil-spill-on-island-20100414-scc9.html



Scientists study damage:
Quote:


Marine scientists dive into study


Scientists from the Australian Institute of Marine Science are conducting a thorough investigation of damage done to the Great Barrier Reef by the recently grounded coal carrier, Shen Neng 1
.
The AIMS research vessel, the 24-metre Cape Ferguson, has carried a team of marine scientists to the Douglas Shoal, where the ship ran aground.

The damaged coal carrier was moved to safe anchorage last week, making the grounding site on the Great Barrier Reef accessible for the AIMS team, which will assess the scale and severity of the physical damage as well as the level of contamination from anti-foulant paint.

AIMS cruise leader, Dr Andrew Negri said a multi-beam sonar was being used to map the sea floor to quantify physical damage to the structure of the reef.

“This instrument can resolve the seabed to less than 10 centimetres, which means it will accurately record the damage caused by the ship’s hull,” Dr Negri said.

He said the scientists were diving with video cameras to record footage of the impact on reef organisms such as corals, sponges and algae.

Specialised cameras that can be towed by the ship were being used for areas too deep for divers.

Dr Negri said paint used on the hulls of most large vessels to reduce the growth of algae and barnacles usually contained toxic chemicals, including heavy metals and herbicides, which often scraped onto the reef if a ship was grounded.

The team was taking samples of the sediments for analysis to provide the Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority with a rapid baseline contamination assessment of the site.

Dr Negri said previous ship groundings had contaminated up to one hectare of the reef. Movement of the Shen Neng 1 since it was first grounded on Easter Saturday, means the area of physical damage and contamination may be much larger.

The Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority, James Cook University and Queensland Parks and Wildlife Service are providing support to the AIMS team during the investigation.



http://www.psnews.com.au/Page_psn21314.html


Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 20 Apr, 2010 09:46 pm
@Diest TKO,
With the assurance that you have never and will never wander off topic, I return to topic. You do know it was an all male crew and the damage has been exagerated with the "cause" being taken up by women because they hate it when things are not protected. First the reef then them. It is the thin end of the wedge People !
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Ionus
 
  -3  
Reply Tue 20 Apr, 2010 09:48 pm
@dlowan,
Quote:
I think they're the same person.
Of course if someone agreed with you the same accusation could be made. But no-one agrees with you do they ?
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Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 20 Apr, 2010 09:50 pm
@dlowan,
Quote:
I think they ARE wannabe bullies. They're just failures at it.
And I think you are a lesbian bully misandrist. A successful bully.
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georgeob1
 
  -1  
Reply Tue 20 Apr, 2010 11:16 pm
@dlowan,
dlowan wrote:

Does he DO non-inane?

Ignore the ****** if he wearies you.

I do.


It appears to me that you don't really ignore him at all : instead you willingly leap on the bait.

I think Spendius has exaggerated appetities for whimsy and irony, but I don't find it offensive (or inane). Sometimes it is even thought-provoking and quite amusing. For those wishing to stick strictly to the subject (too often merely repeating childish rants ("It does."; "Does not"; "Yes, it does."; "Does not."; etc.), I suppose it is frustrating. However strict adherence to that rule would yield too many boring, colorless threads.

None of us have met, and none of us is able to seriously help or injure the other. Why should anything said here make any of us angry? I'll concede I occasionally get a bit irritated at people who are uninhibited by their ignorance and lack of judgement, and use the forum and its anonymity to achieve a bullying voice and stature they never could realize in real life. However thise exceptions are generally rare, and most posters maintain a degree of cordiality, even in disagreement. Msolga is generally a commendable model for us all in this area, and I do respect her for that.
msolga
 
  2  
Reply Wed 21 Apr, 2010 12:39 am
@georgeob1,
Quote:
For those wishing to stick strictly to the subject (too often merely repeating childish rants ("It does."; "Does not"; "Yes, it does."; "Does not."; etc.), I suppose it is frustrating. However strict adherence to that rule would yield too many boring, colorless threads.


Sometimes a even vague reference to the topic would be most welcome, though! This thread has taken a number of divergences from the strict subject of the topic without any major complaint. I don't think that is what people have been objecting to at all.

Quote:
None of us have met, and none of us is able to seriously help or injure the other. Why should anything said here make any of us angry?


Well, I do recall, a few pages back, you telling another poster here to "piss off!" in no uncertain terms, George! Plus a bit more in a later post! Wink
Do you think your more tolerant attitude toward Spendius (compared to the other poster) might have something to do with both of you holding similar conservative political views?

Quote:
I think Spendius has exaggerated appetites for whimsy and irony...


Quite a few A2K people have similar appetites & I really appreciate it when they do it well & are entertaining. It's just that some do it a whole lot better than others & some can't seem to understand when others have had more than enough.


dlowan
 
  1  
Reply Wed 21 Apr, 2010 01:15 am
@georgeob1,
Spendi is easy to ignore.

His damage is less so.

When threads becomes just little blips, followed by ongoing appeals for him to exercise some basic decency, it gets wearing.

He may not make you angry, or anything else, but it is clear that he wearies and distresses others. You may not give a rat's arse about that, but it becomes hard for some of us to see.

Even if we take the best interpretation of his intent, (and it is very hard to do so when he repeats his inanities wearily, like the ridiculous sandbank thing) he has been asked by Msolga repeatedly to desist. Anybody with a shred of decency would do so.

He's a bully and a troll. Not to all, but to some. If his intent was truly to be anything other than that, he would respect others' feelings and confine his postings to where they are appreciated.

dadpad
 
  1  
Reply Wed 21 Apr, 2010 01:38 am
You lot are your own worst enemies.
Just dont respond, ...at all. Ever.

Its actually frustrating me to watch.
msolga
 
  1  
Reply Wed 21 Apr, 2010 01:47 am
@dadpad,
Whether we respond or not, dp, it distorts a discussion. Others respond (often negatively) & it is very difficult to get back on track.
Some of us are actually involved in particular discussions be cause we WANT to have them, we are interested. Maybe because the subject is important to us.
dadpad
 
  1  
Reply Wed 21 Apr, 2010 02:04 am
@msolga,
you just responded.

DONT respond. AT ALL, EVER.
msolga
 
  2  
Reply Wed 21 Apr, 2010 02:06 am
@dadpad,
But I just responded to YOU, dp!!!!! Very Happy
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msolga
 
  1  
Reply Wed 21 Apr, 2010 02:19 am
@dlowan,
Quote:
Meanwhile, in the world that sane people inhabit, and back to the topic, experts examine and discuss the damage to the reef:

Quote:
IT COULD take 20 years or more for the Great Barrier Reef to recover from three kilometres of destruction caused by the grounding of a Chinese coal ship, authorities have revealed.

The Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority says the damage to the reef is significant, with large parts of Douglas Shoal "completely flattened" and marine life "pulverised".

The refloated Shen Neng 1 has been moved to an area behind Great Keppel Island to protect it from incoming bad weather. It is expected to remain there for three or four days while divers check the condition of the hull.

In a briefing yesterday, the marine park authority's chief scientist, Dr David Wachenfeld, said the main concern for the shoal now was that toxic paint scraped off the vessel's hull could be killing coral and other marine life.


Full story here:

http://www.theage.com.au/environment/three-kilometres-of-great-barrier-reef-damage-20-years-to-mend-20100413-s7p8.html

Quote:
Clean-up crews on way to oil spill on island
April 14, 2010

The damage caused by the ship is shown in this photo taken on April 3 and released by the Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority.
Crews are on their way to a Great Barrier Reef island to clean up oil that's fouling a world famous turtle hatchery and bird sanctuary.

Maritime Safety Queensland says oil believed to have come from the refloated coal carrier Shen Neng 1 has fouled up to a kilometre of the coral key.

The island is just 10 nautical miles (18 kilometres) from where the ship ran aground on Douglas Shoal on April 3, causing up to four tonnes of heavy fuel oil to leak.

MSQ general manager Patrick Quirk says clean-up crews and environmental experts will arrive on the island this morning.

"We have helicopter taking off from the Gladstone airport at seven o'clock. We have staff on those helicopters who are specialists in beach clean up," he told the ABC.

"It is important we get to the oil as soon as we can."

Mr Quirk said he was hopeful the clean-up would be able to remove much of the oil.

"It hasn't come ashore in large globules or carpets.

"Our advice from the rangers on the island is that it's at the top of the tide line in patches, and that gives us some comfort.

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/conservation/cleanup-crews-on-way-to-oil-spill-on-island-20100414-scc9.html



Scientists study damage:
Quote:

Marine scientists dive into study

Scientists from the Australian Institute of Marine Science are conducting a thorough investigation of damage done to the Great Barrier Reef by the recently grounded coal carrier, Shen Neng 1
.
The AIMS research vessel, the 24-metre Cape Ferguson, has carried a team of marine scientists to the Douglas Shoal, where the ship ran aground.

The damaged coal carrier was moved to safe anchorage last week, making the grounding site on the Great Barrier Reef accessible for the AIMS team, which will assess the scale and severity of the physical damage as well as the level of contamination from anti-foulant paint.

AIMS cruise leader, Dr Andrew Negri said a multi-beam sonar was being used to map the sea floor to quantify physical damage to the structure of the reef.

“This instrument can resolve the seabed to less than 10 centimetres, which means it will accurately record the damage caused by the ship’s hull,” Dr Negri said.

He said the scientists were diving with video cameras to record footage of the impact on reef organisms such as corals, sponges and algae.

Specialised cameras that can be towed by the ship were being used for areas too deep for divers.

Dr Negri said paint used on the hulls of most large vessels to reduce the growth of algae and barnacles usually contained toxic chemicals, including heavy metals and herbicides, which often scraped onto the reef if a ship was grounded.

The team was taking samples of the sediments for analysis to provide the Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority with a rapid baseline contamination assessment of the site.

Dr Negri said previous ship groundings had contaminated up to one hectare of the reef. Movement of the Shen Neng 1 since it was first grounded on Easter Saturday, means the area of physical damage and contamination may be much larger.

The Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority, James Cook University and Queensland Parks and Wildlife Service are providing support to the AIMS team during the investigation.


http://www.psnews.com.au/Page_psn21314.html

dlowan
 
  1  
Reply Wed 21 Apr, 2010 02:31 am
@dadpad,
Yeah, I agree.

Mea culpa. It just gets me sometimes, and I agree, responders are the actual key.
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dlowan
 
  0  
Reply Wed 21 Apr, 2010 02:32 am
@msolga,
One of the pieces I quoted expressed concerns about other islands as well. Not sure which ones.


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spendius
 
  -1  
Reply Wed 21 Apr, 2010 03:00 am
@farmerman,
It's really revealing fm that a modicum of agreement between myself and Ionus in a few areas causes you to say-

Quote:
So sounds like you will be separating from your conjoined twin aspendy.


and in six years on the evolution threads, where I have been more or less on my own against a group of fellow travelling, left-wing fanatics, I never once stooped to such a crass inanity.

I can prove that it is you who is the misogynist. It's easy but I refrain from doing so to protect you and others from the scientific truth on the matter. Just read Prof. Greer's books. She's now congratulating women for getting divorced (kicking their husband into touch in English) and I don't blame her and I don't blame the women for getting rid of silly sods like you who think that all you have to do is assert others are misogynists and your exploitation of women is excused. Julie Burchill was asked on Newsnight once what she thought of marriage. She said that all she ever felt was a little local irritation. She moved in with another woman and is as happy as can be I gather.

You Yanks have been scientifically clocked at 7 minutes.

Is the US female beautification industry the equivalent of a poodle primping parlour but costing an unquantified number of billions of $$$$. For 7 minutes once a month. In the dark. One customer for ever and ever and all he ever does he explain what a big-shot he is.

If I was a woman I would be organising a mass sex strike. They have vibrators and sperm banks now you know. There's only the Pope left to prevent it. I hardly could watch the golf in the Masters for the tears in my eyes from laughing at the tubby chaps in shorts milling around letting the pros get their kicks for them. "Get in the hole".
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