OK, we have now bested the lunacy of sexting charges

Did they perpetrate violence against u ?

Did they perpetrate violence against u ?

only twice was it physical, once a girl threw a fairly large rock at my head,

once I was shoved into the mud on the way to the bus.
I was a fat kid, it was mostly taunting, normally the bullies were in a group of 3-5.

I was and am a big believer in non-violence

How does that affect your relationship with the Army ?

U could have had the police on her, regardless of gender, for that use of a weapon.

I did relent and allowed my wife to take the kids out on the range with guns.

What did thay fire ?

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What did thay fire ?

only the boy wanted to go, and IDK. He says that he is going to West Point, loves all things army.

ya, it was a 9mm....they do a lot of paintball too but that is a different thing.

he is 16,

By Richard Cohen
Tuesday, April 6, 2010

After a lengthy investigation, District Attorney Elizabeth D. Scheibel had nine students arrested on criminal charges. At the same time, she alleged that while the teenagers had tormented Phoebe to the point where she hanged herself, teachers and administrators were somehow complicit because they knew -- or should have known -- that Phoebe was being bullied by a coterie of aspiring fascists. Phoebe was a newcomer from Ireland and thus, as anyone with the slightest novelist bent would know, the stranger with no champions, no defenders and, in her mind, no way out.

This appalling story, seemingly concocted for the "Today" show's heavy-eyed audience, has of course created quite a stir because it is about cruelty, which we do not understand; lack of empathy, which we find frightening; and conformity and coercion. But mostly it is about how little we know our kids, the little beasts who live among us and can sleep with a teddy bear by night and text-message a 15-year-old colleen to her death by day. Who are these kids?

You will notice that in all the finger-pointing -- the students, the teachers, the administrators -- not a digit is aimed at the parents. Their children are accused of hounding a classmate to death and the parents apparently knew nothing. Not only that, they are somehow not expected to know anything. The teachers are supposed to know what's going on. The principal. Maybe even the school nurse. But the parents? No. They're off the hook.


Not as far as I'm concerned. This tendency to blame teachers or administrators for all that happens in the schools is both unfair and unrealistic

In announcing the charges, District Attorney Elizabeth Scheibel described "a nearly three-month campaign of verbally abusive, assaultive behavior and threats of physical harm . . . relentless activity directed toward Phoebe, designed to humiliate her and to make it impossible for her to remain at school." The bullying, Scheibel said, "far exceeded the limits of normal teenage relationship-related quarrels."

How does she know -- and do we routinely want prosecutors making these calls? Slate's Emily Bazelon reported that among South Hadley students, "the prevailing sentiment was that, yes, Phoebe had been mistreated but not in some unprecedented way. 'A lot of it was normal girl drama,' one girl told me. 'If you want to label it bullying, then I've bullied girls and girls have bullied me. . . . It was one of the worst things I've heard of some girls doing to another girl. But it wouldn't have hurt most people that much.' "

The criminalization of bullying risks a slippery slope down the age range.

this thread is totally not about sexting

OK, we have now bested the lunacy of sexting charges

The documents did little to end the disagreement over how much school officials knew about Ms. Prince’s hazing. Her parents say that before the start of school in September, Ms. Prince’s aunt told an assistant principal that Phoebe had been bullied at school in Ireland and might need help, according to the parents’ spokesman, Darby O’Brien.