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Trolls, or trolling behaviour ...how do we deal with these isues as an online community?

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 24 Mar, 2010 09:37 am
@spendius,
spendius wrote:
Anybody who can't take JTT has his or her head in a bucket.

JTT is a pussy besides some of the people I know.
He proves that there is a limit
to how much stupidity is humanly tolerable.





David
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 24 Mar, 2010 09:49 am
@Rockhead,
Rockhead wrote:
irony break.

anyone else chuckling that two lawyers have an individual on ignore, but feel competent to comment on said individuals value as a poster?

ok, back to the action...


hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe . . .
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 24 Mar, 2010 10:15 am
@Rockhead,
Rockhead wrote:
irony break.

anyone else chuckling that two lawyers have an individual on ignore, but feel competent to comment on said individuals value as a poster?

ok, back to the action...

I feel certain that JTT's contribution to the community has not elevated since he's been placed on ignore.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Rockhead
 
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Reply Wed 24 Mar, 2010 10:21 am
@Ticomaya,
Everyone has a little troll in them. to what degree I find which poster annoying or insufferable is really nobody's business.

the airing of ones grudges and constant belittling of ones foes gets old no matter what the source.

to do it while openly waving ones ignore list is just silly.

Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 24 Mar, 2010 10:28 am
Word
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spendius
 
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Reply Wed 24 Mar, 2010 11:18 am
@Rockhead,
Quote:
the airing of ones grudges and constant belittling of ones foes gets old no matter what the source.

to do it while openly waving ones ignore list is just silly.


But Rocky--do you not know how many silly people there are in this world. We have a vastly expensive educational system in order to render people silly. And the longer you are exposed to it the sillier you get.

It doesn't always function properly as you and I know but nevertheless it is, on the whole, pretty effective.

So you shouldn't be surprised at the little excresence of silliness to which you draw attention to. It's pretty harmless and if the silliest people can be confined to such a silliness, it is, I would have said, a plus. And A2K, by providing a silliness-sink, should be commended.

It's not as silly as taking a dog for a walk and that's not harmless if the letters in the paper about dogshit are anything to go by. I know somebody who took a boat out upon the bay and had to scrape a load of seafood out of the bowthrusters when he got back. One hopes he didn't skin his freezing knuckles in the performance.

One is supposed to laugh and walk to the pub in the middle of the road.

And they allow us to talk behind their backs. One can say things about them which one's natural politeness would cause one to refrain from doing if one thought they were reading it. That's why they take sneaky peeks. Then it becomes silly city.

And, when they do peek, and somebody has made a snidey remark about them, they have to take it in silence because they can't admit they have taken you off Ignore because that would be a victory for you and that's out of the question.

Like one wouldn't want to say anything about something one had heard through a keyhole.




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ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 24 Mar, 2010 11:23 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
ehBeth wrote:
there are libertarians found throughout the political spectrum.
You simply represent one point on that spectrum.
Maybe; depending on WHAT those alleged libertarians think there shoud be liberty to DO.


Not so much a maybe.

That's the thing about being a libertarian - staying out of other people's business/rights is a bit of a basic principle.

You don't get to decide who can and cannot say they are a libertarian - that'd be stepping on their rights - and admitting that you're not a libertarian in fact.


in the case of the much-missed poster, BoGoWo, he is a proud libertarian socialist (and great community activist here in Toronto)

his political status at FB :
Quote:
Libertarian Socialist (everyone should be totally free to care for everyone else!)



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 24 Mar, 2010 11:39 am
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:
there are libertarians found throughout the political spectrum.
You simply represent one point on that spectrum.
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Maybe; depending on WHAT those alleged libertarians think there shoud be liberty to DO.

ehBeth wrote:
Not so much a maybe.

That's the thing about being a libertarian - staying out
of other people's business/rights is a bit of a basic principle.
SO STIPULATED!



ehBeth wrote:
You don't get to decide who can and cannot say they are a libertarian - that'd be
stepping on their rights - and admitting that you're not a libertarian in fact.
U can analyse the observed facts.


ehBeth wrote:
in the case of the much-missed poster, BoGoWo,
he is a proud libertarian socialist (and great community activist here in Toronto)

his political status at FB :
Quote:
Libertarian Socialist (everyone should be totally free to care for everyone else!)
So if he wants to give u a massage, u can 't refuse ?

He better not try to turn me into a vegetarian !





David
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 24 Mar, 2010 12:40 pm
@Rockhead,
Rockhead wrote:
Everyone has a little troll in them. to what degree I find which poster annoying or insufferable is really nobody's business.

the airing of ones grudges and constant belittling of ones foes gets old no matter what the source.

to do it while openly waving ones ignore list is just silly.

Posting random thoughts online is silly.
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 24 Mar, 2010 12:46 pm
@Ticomaya,
In case you don't have me on Ignore Tico in retaliation for my becoming the Champion A2K Pick-Umer whilst you langished near the bottom of the table, I might say that I thought Rocky's post was quite interesting.
Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 24 Mar, 2010 01:08 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:
In case you don't have me on Ignore Tico in retaliation for my becoming the Champion A2K Pick-Umer whilst you langished near the bottom of the table, ...

I'll view this one post, but then it's back on ignore for you!

Middle to bottom of the pack is where I normally fall in that pick-um game. Meh.

Quote:
... I might say that I thought Rocky's post was quite interesting.

Telling people what you find interesting is really nobody's business.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Wed 24 Mar, 2010 01:29 pm
@djjd62,
djjjd62 wrote:
except in poor sozobe's obama thread, but it became a pissing match ages ago, so i don't feel bad for ******* around in there


Yeah, that was an awesome thread for a good long while, and while it was still topical I put some effort into keeping it civil and on-point. Once "Obama '08?" became "Obama '08!!", though, after a certain amount of celebration anyway, I didn't feel the same urgency and I barely ever check it myself anymore. One of those threads that could have benefited from being locked (about December 1st 2008) but oh well. Doesn't bother me at all at this point anyway.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 24 Mar, 2010 01:36 pm
@sozobe,
Quote:
One of those threads that could have benefited from being locked (about December 1st 2008) but oh well
the interaction between people and ideas is the important thing, not the state of sanitation of the threads. Threads are only a useful tool towards to completing the purpose, and so any thread that gets participation is a successful thread. I am not in favor of locking threads ever except in extreme situations for a short (1 day or less) cool down period.

Even before new a2k I dont remember any thread being locked, this is something that a2k has always done right.
djjd62
 
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Reply Wed 24 Mar, 2010 01:38 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:
Treads are only a useful tool towards to completing the purpose


essential for traction
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sozobe
 
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Reply Wed 24 Mar, 2010 01:38 pm
@hawkeye10,
The purpose was completed.

However, my point is more "oh well."
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JTT
 
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Reply Wed 24 Mar, 2010 01:47 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
I was slow to put him on Ignore.



That a lie, Om, but you were a lawyer. [It still blows me away that someone so facile could have been a lawyer]

Quote:

I gave him plenty of chance to explain n justify his position.
Eventually, I decided that enuf drivel is too much nonsense.
I decided not to take it any more.


You couldn't stand the heat, Sig. You just kept whining about logic when you were illogic personified.

Tico, a dismally lost cause.
Mame
 
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Reply Wed 24 Mar, 2010 03:32 pm
@JTT,
Oooooh, another charming post.

Why do you have to challenge anything and everything you find illogical? Can't you just bypass it? Let it go?

I couldn't care less what you think of me and my logic - you're certainly not worth engaging with so don't even bother telling me. I merely ask you these things as Points to Ponder for yourself. I'm holding up the virtual mirror to you. Do you not see how unpleasant you come across? You always have some derogatory and demeaning crack to make. I just don't understand people like you - at all. Why do you care if someone's posturing or being dishonest or inherently inconsistent? What's it to you?

If you feel you absolutely must, there are polite or even neutral ways of informing someone their position is one or several of the things I mentioned without being so vile - why not take the high road for a change?

Just asking.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 24 Mar, 2010 07:37 pm
@sozobe,
sozobe wrote:
djjjd62 wrote:
except in poor sozobe's obama thread, but it became a pissing match ages ago, so i don't feel bad for ******* around in there


Yeah, that was an awesome thread for a good long while, and while it was still topical I put some effort into keeping it civil and on-point. Once "Obama '08?" became "Obama '08!!", though, after a certain amount of celebration anyway, I didn't feel the same urgency and I barely ever check it myself anymore. One of those threads that could have benefited from being locked (about December 1st 2008) but oh well. Doesn't bother me at all at this point anyway.
McCain was a HORRIBLE candidate for us to use to oppose Obama,
but he won in the primaries, so what coud we do?
(Sorry for the digression; just a brief remark.)





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 24 Mar, 2010 07:40 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:
Quote:
One of those threads that could have benefited from being locked (about December 1st 2008) but oh well
the interaction between people and ideas is the important thing, not the state of sanitation of the threads. Threads are only a useful tool towards to completing the purpose, and so any thread that gets participation is a successful thread. I am not in favor of locking threads ever except in extreme situations for a short (1 day or less) cool down period.

Even before new a2k I dont remember any thread being locked, this is something that a2k has always done right.
Is that possible (locking) now ?
I think that we r better off without locking threads;
from every mountainside, just let freedom ring





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 24 Mar, 2010 07:45 pm
@Mame,
Mame wrote:
Oooooh, another charming post.

Why do you have to challenge anything and everything you find illogical? Can't you just bypass it? Let it go?

I couldn't care less what you think of me and my logic - you're certainly not worth engaging with so don't even bother telling me. I merely ask you these things as Points to Ponder for yourself. I'm holding up the virtual mirror to you. Do you not see how unpleasant you come across? You always have some derogatory and demeaning crack to make. I just don't understand people like you - at all. Why do you care if someone's posturing or being dishonest or inherently inconsistent? What's it to you?

If you feel you absolutely must, there are polite or even neutral ways of informing someone their position is one or several of the things I mentioned without being so vile - why not take the high road for a change?

Just asking.

Blessings be upon Robert
for his endowing us with the ability to IGNORE offensive posters.

I 'm sure that I 'm on plenty of Ignore lists.





David
 

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