@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:First, i resent your claim that i have a history of "kvetching." I've complained about the site in the past, but no more than other people who start filling their little panties whenever he makes a change in the format--that's BS, Soz, whether you'll admit it or not.
Again with this "they do it too" deflection. Just because others complain (and quite frankly I have a lot more tolerance for people complaining about real changes as opposed to the verbal abuse from people who ran into a bug) doesn't mean you don't have a lengthy history of calling the "site" things like "shitty" or "lame" whenever you are minorly inconvenienced.
I usually just take it. For example, you used to bitch an awful lot about losing huge posts from being logged out on the old software. That simply happened because you write long posts and your session times out in the meantime (and sometimes also because we didn't have enough RAM) but it was something that I could legitimately take constructively so I ignored the "shitty" et all that you decided to accentuate your complaint with.
We had the "Wilso feature" which was a button to copy the post to clipboard for a while but that wasn't cutting it (hey, if you wanted to remember to copy to clipboard before posting each time you could already do that, it wasn't as usable as it should be) so this new software I made a point to save those as drafts if you get logged out.
That is an example of criticism that I can just do something with to improve. But you frequently heap verbal abuse on the "site" about hiccups I can't do much to improve on.
Quote:Second, i didn't say that Robert started it, i've only said that he's made it about personalities, which is true. I did not start this thread with the object of making nasty personal remarks about other people (such as jackass or douche bag). It is not implicit when complaining about the site that i'm referring to him as a jackass or a douche bag.
Nobody on earth is going to buy this innocent routine. Each and every time you do this I respond to you on your thread about the problems you are having. This is the equivalent of being verbally abusive on the phone with some customer service person and justifying it by not having directed the actual insults at them.
Is it somehow not supposed to be irritating to me that you direct the criticism at the "site"? You know who made it, you know whose work you are criticizing.
I used to hide behind a similar pretext while being a total douche bag on able2know. I would heap on the strength of conviction but justify my caustic remarks by saying I didn't insult the person, I insulted their idea.
Thing is, there's often not the need to insult the idea either. I didn't need to say some post was "stupid" or lob on what I should clearly have known to be verbal grenades and so should you.
You know you are being rude, this is just a deflection of responsibility. And lastly,
if you think being called names is nasty why do you so liberally treat others this way?
Quote:If this is your idea of how a bar owner is entitled to react, for example, i suggest to you that Robert ought to stay out of the bar business, because he'd just run his business into the ground.
I have never once had such an exchange with any client of mine. Oddly enough, the ones who have business relationships with me are invariably more respectful (even as paying clients!) than the anonymous forum user. Maybe it's just that knowing each other's real names precludes most people from being shitty to each other.
My real name is Robert Gentel, please stop being verbally abusive when you encounter site bugs. If there's anything at all I can do to improve things I will usually do so, and when I can't please understand that I am doing what I can and that verbal abuse only makes it more difficult.
