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Usually, clergy enter their vocation motivated by a desire to do charitable deeds and view as colleagues those with the same desire.

what is 'view as colleagues' means what ? this is ambiguous ?

what is 'vocation ' means what ?

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@tintin,

"view as colleagues" means someone who shares the same job. Vocation is another word for job or skill

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In the religious world, vocation has a special meaning.

http://www.cmri.org/98prog3.htm

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What is a vocation? The word is derived from the Latin word vocare, to call, and so a vocation is a calling. In general, everyone has a vocation, a calling for Almighty God gives everyone particular talents and abilities in order for them to provide for the different needs of the Mystical Body of Christ. For many, their calling is to the marriage state: to be good husbands and wives, to be good fathers and mothers, raising children in a God-fearing manner. The word vocation, however, is more commonly used when we speak of a person chosen by God to be a religious or a priest.

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@tintin,

tintin wrote:

please look at this ...

tintin wrote:

Usually, clergy enter their vocation motivated by a desire
to do charitable deeds

That sounds like its not as much about religion, than it is about philanthropy or social work.

tintin wrote:

and view as colleagues those with the same desire.

what is 'view as colleagues' means what ? this is ambiguous ?

associate. See Synonyms at partner.

tintin wrote:

what is 'vocation ' means what ?

vo⋅ca⋅tion

"noun 1. a particular occupation, business, or profession; calling.
2. a strong impulse or inclination to follow a particular activity or career.
3. a divine call to God's service or to the Christian life.
4. a function or station in life to which one is called by God: the religious vocation; the vocation of marriage.

Tintin: instead of saying "means what" its better if you say
"What does that mean?"

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@tintin,

what does 'view as colleagues' mean?

what does 'vocation' mean?

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@JTT,

you guys are so helpful . I am improving a lot. Thanks for the correction and help.....please do correct if I do any mistakes . I want to learn ...I read your posts carefully and value them.

hats of to you guys. Thats why I come back here . I like this place.
Thanks for your time.

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@tintin,

I was told I had a vocation, that is, that I had a calling to be a catholic nun. I considered it, as it was one way to get to be an md, as a missionary. The trouble was, I didn't want to be a missionary.

We were taught that there were three vocations for us students in my girls' high school.
We could be called to be a nun.
We could be called to be married.
We could be called to be a single woman in the world.
So, to me, clearly the word 'vocation' means calling.

I picked the last, since back then, women had trouble getting into medical school as they were expected to drop out to bear a family.

I since became accredited in three fields of endeavor, and other people in those fields would consider me as a colleague - that is, a peer, with equivalent educational background.

Now, I would say, if anyone tells you that you have a vocation, run very fast.

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@tintin,

Hi,
I read the next sentence as ...

Thus, whenever a clergy member gains prominence as a televangelist to the public, most other clergy members no longer view the televangelist as a true colleague.

this is the continuation of the earlier sentence .

what does 'televangelist' mean ? I checked wordweb online
http://www.wordwebonline.com/search.pl?w=televangelist

Not happy with this . I am not quite clear who are these people ..what services they do?..looks like they are religious persons perform some show in TV ? is it correct ? An example would be better here.

thanks

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@tintin,

You are correct so far in your conjecture.

I am not interested in televangelists (tv preachers), so I am not the right person to give you examples. Someone else on a2k will be along soon to help.

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@ossobuco,

>tv preachers.
Thats a good word . That explains the rest. I have seen this kind of program in TV in our country . I'm not much interested though but I understand what does this means Smile

Thanks

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@tintin,

Quote:

1) I'm not much interested though but I understand what does this means

Quote:

2) I am not quite clear who are these people

I think you already know this but when it's a statement and not a question we normally don't use a question form, Tintin, as you have done in 1) and 2) above.

So number 1), revised, would be,

1a) I'm not much interested though but I understand what [does] this means.

For 2), we could keep the question form but it's more emphatic;

2a) normal neutral: I am not quite clear who [are] these people are.

2a) more emphatice: I am not quite clear, who are these people?.

It could be a real question with relatively flat pronunciation or it could have certain words in the sentence emphasized.

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@JTT,

Thanks ..that was helpful . I appreciate your help. that helped me . I have noted the correction . Both the explanations were helpful.

please do correct me in future also . I would like to rectify my mistakes. please bring to my notice if I make any mistakes.

Thanks for your time.

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@JTT,

Huh?

I'll have to look at what you say, JTT, but Tintin and I seem to be communicating.
You and I have different interests. I'm interested in talking with Tintin as a reporter from a place I am interested in, and you are giving him or her english lessons, he or she being pretty sharp.

I suppose that is appropriate, and that he or she is interested in language, but, for me, talking with Tintin is much more interesting.

Maybe, between us all, we can organize this.

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@ossobuco,

Please keep going with your discussions, Osso. I wouldn't think of standing in the way at all. I might even join in, if I've something to contribute.

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@ossobuco,

But, of course, I'm wrong. This was a language thread.

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@ossobuco,

Not a problem, Osso. Conversations and discussions are excellent for language threads.

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@JTT,

I over reacted. Let's keep this going..

I like both the talk and the language.

Time for me to sleep now.

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