@Ionus,
Quote: You cant read can you. I write unusuable and you read unstable.
Once again...I'm forced to remind you that you have to understand the context in which words have been used...it is very important in order to avoid misinterpretation of things...I know you wrote "unusable"...meaning that I have a brain and I don't use it (according to you)...But when I said "If this is the work of an 'unstable' brain...you're a vegetable..." means that if my brain doesn't function properly, like you already implied, based on my discussion, your brain is in a vegetative state...meaning that you're brain dead. But, let's just use the word you used and apply it to my sentence: "If this is the work of an unusable brain...you're a vegetable
" ...see?
Quote: Obviously you didnt understand any of it so no one is going to believe that.
We can virtually spend all week discussing my credentials, but I won't...because I don't need to...
Let me explain this one more time...Psychology and philosophy are social sciences; Biology and cosmology are natural sciences...and the following five fields of study are also sciences
etymology
history
geography
archaeology
sociology
The reason why theses are called "sciences" is simply because they ALL follow the scientific method...if you can't understand something simple, you are just in denial.
Quote: You know what I read but you cant read correctly what is in front of you ?
I can read, but can you comprehend? You need a lot of explanation with ideas that are self-explanatory.
I wrote:
Quote: No guessing, please...just think rationally.
You wrote:
Quote:This is the equivalent of "I know you are but what am I "?
What else can you see:
Old enough to teach you one or two things about life.
Quote:I give you books written by 4 different Noble prize winners and you give me a counter reference of some dickhead on the net ?
I accept that I was wrong about you taking all those quotes from creationist website...however, I have done all the necessary work to expose you as an dishonest creationist...This is how it's done:
You provided to me a series of quotes taken from a website...which you provided dead links to (I wonder why). I read three of the four articles (one is unavailable), and none of those three says that Science is dogmatic, like you said. The articles center in how sometimes scientists are discriminated by some other scientists. These quotes you have provided are good example of quotes mining, when a quote is taken out of context to suit your own believe.
These are the thesis of this argument:
“--don t let the stigma of scientific dogma rear its repressive head too high because by doing so, it just might suppress real scientific progress.” (paragraph 6)
No mention of science as being a dogma...it means that you have to be scientific in order for science to be science.
Source:
http://www.indiana.edu/~poynter/tre1-2.html
Another quote:
“I'm troubled that MANY RESEARCHERS ARE BECOMING LESS PRODUCTIVE because they divert their skills away from the goals of producing quality science and technology. Too many people in the scientific community now are driven by motives aside from the desire to make practical or basic discoveries. The accoutrements of success"large laboratories, significant funding, travel to many meetings at home and abroad"have overshadowed the joy of discovery. And too many scientists feel tempted to cut corners due to competitive pressures and the rapid pace of contemporary science. Science advances most productively when we focus on scientific merit rather than on the potential for attracting fame or increased funding.”
Does this paragraph say that science is dogmatic?
Source:
http://www.winstonbrill.com/bril001/html/article_index/articles/1-50/article19_body.html
Antony van Leeuwenhoek
was an unlikely scientist. A tradesman of Delft, Holland, he came from a family of tradesmen, had no fortune, received no higher education or university degrees, and knew no languages other than his native Dutch.
This would have been enough to exclude him from the scientific community of his time completely.
Yet with skill, diligence, an endless curiosity, and an open mind free of the scientific dogma of his day, Leeuwenhoek succeeded in making some of the most important discoveries in the history of biology. It was he who discovered bacteria, free-living and parasitic microscopic protists, sperm cells, blood cells, microscopic nematodes and rotifers, and much more. His researches, which were widely circulated, opened up an entire world of microscopic life to the awareness of scientists.
Source:
http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/history
This one doesn't say that science is dogmatic...it just implies that there were biased people who were very selective...that doesn't mean that the process that led van Leeuwenhoek discover the existence of micro organisms ,"sperm cells, blood cells, microscopic nematodes and rotifers, and much more" were biased or dogmatic... in order for van Leeuwenhoek to make these scientific breakthroughs, he had to followed an unbiased system of sets of rules. This set of rules the scientific method.
I have never argued that there are no discrimination in science...there is discrimination in all fields of study...but the method implemented to find whether something is true or not based on facts (things that we agree are true) is not biased...people can be biased...but not the method...the method determines whether something is biased or not.
If you try to refute this, I'll present to you two or our quotes from a previous post:
You said:
Quote:There is always a differing opinion, as in a dogma.
I said:
Quote:There are different opinions, indeed...but THEY’RE NOT ALL VALID (like in religion)...but only the one that has been rigorously tested and submitted to the most scrutiny and supported with evidence will be considered true...not absolute truth...because nobody knows what the nature of reality is. In the end, the only thing that counts is the data...don't you agree with that...or will I have to explain this again?
You see that I actually agreed with you that science has different opinions but they are not all valid? That if you applied the scientific method properly, this will sort out any disagreement between the scientists? Which means if you're able to do that within science, science is not a dogma...
Let me give you another example of what I mean:
If some English professors are corrupt and don't follow the guidelines on how to teach some students how to read, understand sentences, annotations and connotations, doesn't mean that the whole English department is corrupt, or the guidelines that would lead to an enrichment of knowledge for the students in this field doesn't work...it just means that there are good English professors and bad English professors.
Quote:It was probably only you on a different site
You have no way out...you're quite the comedian.
Quote:Some of us dont live in awe of your cut and paste ability, and use libraries.
But some of us like it...I've already received positive feedback.
Quote:and use libraries. Say it with me ...libraries...good boy.
Liiiieee...breaaad...reaseess.
Quote:If your main argument is to tell me I am a Creationist when I am not, then others can see how pathetic that is even if you cant.
No, my main argument is to expose you that you are either a creationist in disguise or you have a very serious identity crisis....let me explain it to you further:
These are quotes taken from our initial conversation:
I wrote:
Quote:From what I know, nobody has returned from the dead.
You wrote:
Quote:Not in the experience of two others and I.
These are other quotes from you:
Your said:
Quote:Evolution is half thought out ?
Quote:The Laws of Thermodynamics are vague ?
Quote:The Speed of Light is a maybe ?
Only an uneducated creationist would say something like this...someone with no knowledge of natural science...just the insane ideas of some creationists.
Quote:I repeat, name me one change in evolution that was not an accident.
This is very entertaining...you thinking that evolution is my weak topic...but let's make a deal...lets address all the arguments that still unclear to you, and I'll explain to you why evolution is deterministic...deal?
Quote:You need to be proudless and clevermore. Dumbest dipshit yet.
If it swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck...but if you think like a creationist...then you're a: