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You are a monster!

 
 
Linkat
 
Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2009 11:30 am
My 10 year old wanted her own email address - after setting strict rules on who she could email to and what to watch out for we allowed her. So I get a call from another mom - her daughter received an email from mine. It said - I don't like you. You are a monster. I could tell the mom felt bad about calling me, but her daughter was very upset (understandably about this) and of course I'm shocked - not my sweet loving little girl. But I didn't want to be that mom and tried to think why the h*ll she would write that.

Turns out she didn't - little younger booger sister did. She thought it was funny and a joke. Why the heck would that be funny? Any way I straightened it out and little booger is going to apoligize today. Ironically little booger loves this girl.

Why the h*ll would a kid think this was funny? Any other thoughts with kids now emailing more and more internet crap that I should talk with them about (besides what I've mentioned above)? I trust my older daughter to be appropriate and want to give her some privacy about this - I don't feel comfortable about reading her emails so please provide your thoughts on this.

 
DrewDad
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2009 11:46 am
@Linkat,
http://cdn-www.i-am-bored.com/media/5919_hentaiyahooanswersquestion.jpg
panzade
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2009 11:50 am
@DrewDad,
holy mackerel
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Linkat
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2009 11:54 am
@DrewDad,
too bad I can't view it
fbaezer
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2009 12:01 pm
@DrewDad,
The Mother's fault.
She shouldn't be cleaning her son's room in the first place.
But then, she also should be appreciative of Hentai.

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Diest TKO
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2009 12:03 pm
@Linkat,
Linkat wrote:

too bad I can't view it

The dickgirl comics?
K
O
sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2009 12:05 pm
@Linkat,
Scary.

One of my friends on Facebook just asked other moms from our area what our rules are -- her 12-year-old wanted a Facebook account, she wasn't sure. I didn't comment because another friend has let her 8-year-old have his own FB account and I think that's stupid.

Sozlet has an email account, she doesn't use it much though. She mostly uses it for communicating with grownups, like grandparents and teachers.

That's scary stuff though. Seems like a great moment to talk about how dangerous the Internet can be, both directions. Something about tone is probably called for -- telling them to be sure to be very very clear and not leaving room for error/ misunderstandings.

For privacy, I dunno. I let sozlet have an email account with the understanding that I'd check it often. The FB discussion about kids on FB talked about that too -- the people who let their kids have an account check it frequently. I don't think I'd give sozlet complete privacy on email until later. I'm less concerned about what goes out than what comes in -- who she's talking to, what she's getting. She's just not sophisticated enough to recognize a lot of possible dangers. We've talked about that as it's come up, and that's been useful. One of those training wheels sorts of things -- give 'em a little freedom while monitoring, then a little more, then more, etc.
Linkat
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2009 12:13 pm
@Diest TKO,
I had no idea whatever the picture was - if this is the case - actually might be nice I can't view it.
Linkat
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2009 12:16 pm
@sozobe,
Yeah I did the safety talk and they have a whole big thing about that in school as well - signing stuff about not giving out names, addresses and talking with people you don't know, etc.

I don't want to not give her privacy, but even with the straight talk is allowing this ok? She isn't a risk taker and actually pointed out to me an email she received from some one she didn't know - ended up being a response from the email service about her sending to an incorrect email.
Linkat
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2009 12:18 pm
@sozobe,
Oh and I agree about facebook. I wouldn't allow it.

Maybe around the privacy thing - I'll look at the inbox to review more for who she is receiving stuff from (ensure it is only friends and family) and not read anything. I do think she would tell me if she got something unsolicted.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2009 12:23 pm
@Linkat,
Linkat wrote:

I had no idea whatever the picture was - if this is the case - actually might be nice I can't view it.

It's somebody relating a story about how their mom threw out their comics, and how he got revenge by posting a bunch of sexually explicit stuff on his mom's Facebook account, and that she wants to throw him out of the house.

Then he says he's 31 and has never had a job....
Linkat
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2009 12:31 pm
@DrewDad,
Oh kay - very disturbing.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2009 12:47 pm
"
Then he says he's 31 and has never had a job....
"

Unless he stands to inherit some big bucks, he is in for a rude shock when his parents are gone.
ebrown p
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2009 12:54 pm
@edgarblythe,
Thats what scratch tickets are for.
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sullyfish6
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2009 01:00 pm
Link -
Used to be we'd tell our kids that they didn't have to SAY everything they thought or felt.

Nowadays, we need to tell kids not to WRITE (i.e. post or email) everything they think or feel.

All 3 of my grandkids have gotten into trouble for writing things on- line.
They lost privileges for a while and know that they are being monitored closely.
Linkat
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2009 01:09 pm
@sullyfish6,
I agree - this wasn't a case of writing something about what they felt - and my older daughter does know better. It is about my younger daughter not understanding that you can't tell that what she wrote was a joke and couldn't have been known as a joke. My younger daughter actually adores this girl - she did not realize that it would be taken as not liking her as it is so much the opposite. I think I need to teach her the art of sarcasim.

I pointed out to her if she received such an email from a friend how it would make her feel.
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engineer
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2009 02:30 pm
@Linkat,
Linkat wrote:

I trust my older daughter to be appropriate and want to give her some privacy about this - I don't feel comfortable about reading her emails so please provide your thoughts on this.

I told my oldest that he could have an email account, myspace, facebook, but I could log on anytime I wanted, I would read any text he sent and I would advise him appropriately. Then I did it, often with him in the room. If I did it when he wasn't home, I would either leave a note or make some comment so that he would know I was looking. Not only did that police his usage, it policed his friends since they all knew I watched his account. Several times I saw that he was on the edge of some teenage crap where some early advice would go a lot way. He is really a great kid and I have a lot of respect for his level of maturity, but I think I saved him some angst a couple of times and I made him take down some stuff that was too personal. Teens really overshare on these sites.

It's great that your daughter has earned your trust, but things can move really fast among teens on the Internet. She could really get in over her head in one of these girl wars (I saw one between a bunch of honor students that involved falsified quotes and lots of cutting and pasting out of context that would blow your mind) and might be afraid to come to you until serious damage has been done. Please look over her shoulder.
Linkat
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2009 02:40 pm
@engineer,
Thanks - I am definately going to ponder this even considering below.

As she isn't on a FB or other site - not allowed - just sending emails to grandparents and friends, I'm not quite as concerned. Also, being such a close knit group - there is only 9 kids in her class and she is only emailing the girls (total of 4 girls) and her grandparents. I do look when she is on, but more to see who is in her inbox and who is listed by names in address book.

You can see that us parents are very close as well as the first incident was made known. I am keeping younger girl from sending any emails at this point without one of us parents their first and she is not allowed to send from her sister's address - only ours.
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NickFun
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2009 03:15 pm
Your daughter is 10 years old. There are predators out there. I think you should monitor her email regularly. You wouldn't want to regret it later.

Sorry to sound so morose but that is the state of the world right now.
ebrown p
 
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Reply Thu 22 Oct, 2009 03:21 pm
One of my family members posted a video to Facebook that involved a not to subtle reference to a sex act (you certainly wouldn't want your daughter seeing this video). One of the responses was from my 7 year old niece complaining -- "My daddy won't let me watch this video... could you post another one for me?"

At that moment I decided that my daughter will not be getting a Facebook account for the next 16 years or so.
 

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