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Unsafe Voting Systems

 
 
McTag
 
Reply Tue 14 Oct, 2003 10:56 am
An article in The Independent, today.

"We're ploughing into a brave new world here," he says, "where there are so many variables aside from out-and-out corruption that can change elections, especially in situations where the races are close. We have machines that break down, or are tampered with, or are simply misunderstood. It's a cause for great concern."

Roxanne Jekot, who has put much of her professional and personal life on hold to work on the issue full time, puts it even more strongly. "Corporate America is very close to running this country. The only thing that is stopping them from taking total control are the pesky voters. That's why there's such a drive to control the vote. What we're seeing is the corporatisation of the last shred of democracy.

"I feel that unless we stop it here and stop it now," she says, "my kids won't grow up to have a right to vote at all."

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=452972
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Tue 14 Oct, 2003 12:21 pm
This is very interesting--and not a little scary. Of course, we know that there are those Republicans--Tom DeLay, Karl Rove--who create the impression that they will stop at nothing to win elections. I'm sure they consider themselves ethical, but recent history makes that open to debate...
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Reply Tue 14 Oct, 2003 01:00 pm
I'm actually less worried about computers breaking than I am about people miscounting. Computers will break pretty randomly. The odds are that in general, if we use the same computers and the same software everywhere, the same number of Republican votes will be lost as democratic votes. But if we have people counting, the odds are that those people will have an opinion about who wins, and will be more likely to consistantly misplace only a certain type of vote, subconsciously. So I would prefer just about anything to counting votes by hand, no matter how crappy it is.

If there was tampering, however, that's a different story.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 14 Oct, 2003 01:06 pm
rufio wrote:
I'm actually less worried about computers breaking than I am about people miscounting. Computers will break pretty randomly. The odds are that in general, if we use the same computers and the same software everywhere, the same number of Republican votes will be lost as democratic votes. But if we have people counting, the odds are that those people will have an opinion about who wins, and will be more likely to consistantly misplace only a certain type of vote, subconsciously. So I would prefer just about anything to counting votes by hand, no matter how crappy it is.

If there was tampering, however, that's a different story.



Since about 15 years I'm one of those, who is counting votes (for EU-parliament. federal, state, county and town elections as well as for plebiscites).
At least 10 persons from at least four different parties plus two civil servants, all counting done in public - I've never heard that anyone even got an idea how to cheat.
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