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Oh I'm Afraid UnAmerican Nazis Will Incite Violence!

 
 
Reply Sat 19 Sep, 2009 12:16 am
http://www.examiner.com/x-19823-PostPartisan-Examiner~y2009m9d17-VIDEO-Nancy-Pelosi-cries-implies-rightwing-inciting-violence

http://townhall.com/columnists/DennisPrager/2009/08/11/i_thought_dissent_is_patriotic?page=full&comments=true

http://lornakismet.wordpress.com/2009/09/03/finger-bitten-off-during-california-health-protest/

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/09/12/where-are-the-condemnations-of-abortion-protester-james-pouillon/

You can find similar or better cites, but the bottom line is that Nancy Pelosi is a hypocrite

The Left that caterwauls about possible right-wing violence are hypocrites.

If you fall for this shite you are a fool or a partisan a-hole (in which case you will not have fallen for this scam, but embraced it).

Oh, now we are supposed to be so worried about African-American Obama's safety as to put aside our legitimate differences of opinion so as to protect him from the singular insane.

Putting aside the fact that it seems to be OK to incite pro-abortionists to incite a nut to kill an anti-abortionist in Michigan, and a Pro-Obama supporter to bite off the finger of an Anti-Obama protester, can we stipulate that there are nuts who (with scant connection to ideological thought) want to and have tried to kill our presidents --- Democrat and Republican alike.

Wouldn't it be great if there were not left and right wing loons out there saying and doing the most outrageous things?

Cannot be prevented without gutting the Bill of Rights.

The true tests of how insanity has infected either side of the political spectrum are not that difficult to perform.

Google "Bush responsible for 9/11" and you will get over 40 million hits.

Google "Obama not a citizen" and you will get over 26 million hits.

Obviously, we can't ascertain what portion of these hits are in favor of the premise goggled, but I think it's fair to assume that the proportion of those disagreeing with the premise are pretty close to being equal.

It's, I admit, an assumption but not one which, I believe, is farfetched.

Accepting it, we have close to twice as many "truther" hits as "birther" hits.

Which is the more foul assertion?

The president of the US ordered the mass murder of 3,000 American citizens and the destruction of an American icon.

Or

The president of the US faked a Hawaiian birth certificate and, technically, cannot serve the office.

There are far more Democrat 'Truthers," than Republican "Birthers," and yet (not unexpectedly) the Left would have us believe that "Birther" thought is a clear signal of not only the intellectual dishonesty, but danger of the Right.

So we have far fewer "Birthers," than "Truthers," and the latter’s' charge is far more incendiary than the formers', but we have the Left (and Nancy Pelosi) warning us all about Right Wing Violence.

I guess I missed the Pelosi speech when she teared up in response to the UK pundit who suggested we lacked the virtue of a presidential assassin in the Bush years.





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Rockhead
 
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Reply Sat 19 Sep, 2009 12:25 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
pelosi is a repugnant shrill hypocrite imho, but you gotta admit your side has an awful lot of wackos with bibles and guns...
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 19 Sep, 2009 12:28 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
Oh, now we are supposed to be so worried about African-American Obama's safety as to put aside our legitimate differences of opinion so as to protect him from the singular insane.


the world (humans) are too dangerous to allow for free thought/debate. We should have realized that we were in the weeds when political correctness made shreds of the process of discourse. A few observers pointed out where we were headed, but they were roundly ignored.

Fear is approach of manipulation that seems to never fail with Americans, we bite every time.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sat 19 Sep, 2009 12:47 am
@Rockhead,
Rockhead wrote:

pelosi is a repugnant shrill hypocrite imho, but you gotta admit your side has an awful lot of wackos with bibles and guns...


I don't view things as one side against another, but certainly there are kooks who lay claim to right wing virtues.

So what?

None of them serve as Speaker of The House.
Rockhead
 
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Reply Sat 19 Sep, 2009 01:02 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
i do the devil's advocate thing a lot, but i ain't gonna defend pelosi.

if that's what you are lookin' for, good luck.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sat 19 Sep, 2009 01:28 am
@Rockhead,
Move on since I hardly expect or require you to argue one way or the other.
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sat 19 Sep, 2009 02:16 am
As usual the hysterics seem to have left out some of the significant details.

From the Washington Post's coverage:

Reports differ on whether the supporter went to confront the opponents intentionally or was just walking among them while trying to cross the street to the pro-reform rally.

Southern California's KTLA-TV, which first reported on the fracas, wrote, "The 65-year-old was apparently aggressive and hit the other man, who then retaliated by biting off his attacker's pinky."

roger
 
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Reply Sat 19 Sep, 2009 02:43 am
@MontereyJack,
And the point is . . . ?
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revel
 
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Reply Sat 19 Sep, 2009 10:51 am
In my opinion Polosi went too far in implying that those were carry swastikas and symbols were Astroturf; on the other hand so did those who were carrying those signs with Obama name on them.

Having said that I can't find any objections to words about people inciting violence except maybe she should practice what she preaches.

Quote:
QUESTION: Madam Speaker, in terms of the political tone, the tone of the debate, Hoyer said earlier this week he thought it was the most vitriolic since '93-'94. And around that time we also saw acts of domestic violence, domestic terrorism. How concerned are you about the tone of the political debate, in terms of people talking about anti-government rhetoric and so on and the possibility of violence?

PELOSI: Well, I think we all have to take responsibility for our actions and our words. The -- we are a free country, and this balance between freedom and safety is one that we have to carefully balance.

I have concerns about some of the language that is being used, because I saw -- I saw this myself in the late '70s in San Francisco. This kind of rhetoric was very frightening, and it gave -- it created a climate in which violence took place.

And so I wish that we would all, again, curb our enthusiasm in some of the statements that are made, so that understanding that some of the people -- the ears that are -- it is falling on are not as balanced as the person making the statement might assume.

But, again, our country is great because people can say what they think and they believe. But I also think that they have to take responsibility for any incitement that they may cause.

source

There is a link to the press conference in the source above.
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Foofie
 
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Reply Sat 19 Sep, 2009 04:16 pm
@Rockhead,
Rockhead wrote:

pelosi is a repugnant shrill hypocrite imho, but you gotta admit your side has an awful lot of wackos with bibles and guns...


The bibles and guns are non-sequitors to one's being, or not being, said "wacko."

People in rural areas might really need to have a gun for protection, since living on the side of a country road is not like living with an alley between one, and one's neighbor (aka, urban resident that can scream for help to a neighbor). And, believing in the bible is no different, in my opinion, than believing that someone who went to seminary can turn "the substance" of a wafer and wine into the body and blood of Jesus.

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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 19 Sep, 2009 04:32 pm
@Rockhead,
Rockhead wrote:

pelosi is a repugnant shrill hypocrite imho, but you gotta admit your side has an awful lot of wackos with bibles and guns...

U gotta admit your side has an awful lot of wackos without bibles and guns
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Diest TKO
 
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Reply Sat 19 Sep, 2009 04:50 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
The Left that caterwauls about possible right-wing violence are hypocrites.

Yeah, let's not forget about the ACTUAL violence that has taken place. The dialog expanded beyond "possible" right-wing violence a while ago.

Not an insignificant detail. People being afraid of more violence and then observing idiots bringing guns to protests and signs that talk about killing tyrants isn't a unreasonable concern. People (like Pelosi) can express that concern in many ways. Even dumb ways.

The concern can still be valid.
K
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 21 Sep, 2009 05:27 pm
@Rockhead,
But are any of them Speaker of the House?
ebrown p
 
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Reply Mon 21 Sep, 2009 05:33 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:EykDDS2hVaRpIM:http://lefteyeonthemedia.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/gingrich-newt.jpg
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