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IYO – what age should a child walk/cross a busy road alone?

 
 
chai2
 
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Reply Fri 21 Aug, 2009 02:20 pm
@Linkat,
maybe she was a midget that took good care of her skin.
Linkat
 
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Reply Fri 21 Aug, 2009 02:23 pm
@chai2,
Thanks, that solves the problem - case closed.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 21 Aug, 2009 02:46 pm
I'm only wondering about the cell phone.

Might well be that the situation as very different here in Europe/USA - but at the age of 7 (or 8) school children make the "bicycle licence" - that means, they can walk in traffic already.
joefromchicago
 
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Reply Fri 21 Aug, 2009 02:51 pm
@Linkat,
Linkat wrote:
Also, realizing the maturity of the child, on average, what age would you think is old enough?

That depends. How much do you like the kid?
Linkat
 
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Reply Fri 21 Aug, 2009 03:06 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
We don't allow our children to walk in traffic at all. Neither do we allow the adults to walk in traffic - don't you guys have any sidewalks?
Linkat
 
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Reply Fri 21 Aug, 2009 03:07 pm
@joefromchicago,
Well I like my kids fine. But I'm talking about this other little un
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Fri 21 Aug, 2009 03:12 pm
I think that's also a question of nationality. In Germany most first graders go
to school by themselves which includes crossing busy roads. I remember that
we learned in kindergarten how to cross a road with a rhyme:
"First look to the left,
then to the right,
and get safe to the other side". (It rhymes better in German).

My own daughter was around 12 years old before she crossed a road by herself,
mostly due to lack of opportunities since she was driven to and from school and other activities.

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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 21 Aug, 2009 03:59 pm
My sister and i walked to school, about a mile, every day. The only hard part was crossing the state highway at the end of the street, and once you were over that, it was small town residential all the way. We were taught about checking for traffic before crossing long before we were sent off to school.
FreeDuck
 
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Reply Fri 21 Aug, 2009 05:04 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

I'm only wondering about the cell phone.

Might well be that the situation as very different here in Europe/USA - but at the age of 7 (or 8) school children make the "bicycle licence" - that means, they can walk in traffic already.


I'm thinking that it might be a tad more dangerous here because we have such a car-centric culture. People really don't walk as much here as they do in Europe in general, and our drivers are much less cautious about pedestrians, perhaps because they aren't used to seeing them very often.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Fri 21 Aug, 2009 08:58 pm
@chai2,
chai2 wrote:

maybe she was a midget that took good care of her skin.


Laughing Laughing
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 22 Aug, 2009 01:35 am
@Linkat,
Linkat wrote:

We don't allow our children to walk in traffic at all. Neither do we allow the adults to walk in traffic - don't you guys have any sidewalks?


Yes, in cities like Cologne etc since about 1250. But sometimes you have to cross streets and roads.
Ceili
 
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Reply Sat 22 Aug, 2009 01:58 am
I've just recently returned from the UK and Ireland. Trust me when I say "car centric" is hardly an American ideal. Cars are king no matter where you go, the only difference... narrower roads. In most of Canada, not all..., pedestrians have the right of way. This is not common. But no matter who has the rights, no matter what country or time zone, 3500 pounds of metal doing 60 km/h is pretty much going to eradicate life.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 22 Aug, 2009 06:48 am
@Ceili,
Ceili wrote:
But no matter who has the rights, no matter what country or time zone, 3500 pounds of metal doing 60 km/h is pretty much going to eradicate life.


Exactly that's why children learn about that already in kindergarten and the first year at school here.

We've got signs (large "traffic signs") just now on all major roads and streets: "Attention! First Graders!" for car drivers at the more dangerous ways to school. And cars - like this police car - have stickers "School has started"

http://i27.tinypic.com/2i7s70p.jpg

Besides that, local schools started with "walking busses" last year for first graders, which certainly improves the children's independent mobility.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sat 22 Aug, 2009 06:59 am
@FreeDuck,
I agree with this, re: the cell phone complicating the street-crossing issue.

I regularly crossed the street by myself from age 5 or so. No disasters.

I've been really struggling with this re: sozlet. I think she's ready for more (she can cross small side streets on her own), E.G. doesn't and most moms I've consulted (I've consulted MANY) agree with E.G. The consensus around here seems to be 4th grade, or about 9-10. That's when they start middle school, and many middle-schoolers walk home (and then are allowed more freedom to walk around in general).
FreeDuck
 
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Reply Sat 22 Aug, 2009 07:06 am
@sozobe,
I've definitely gotten admonishing looks and even one dropped jaw from other parents about Duckie crossing our street (very busy, but with crosswalk, no light) by himself when he goes to visit a friend who lives down the street on the other side. But he's perfectly capable and extremely cautious. Every kid is different -- Ducklet is not very cautious and I think she will probably be able to do it around 4th grade or so if she continues to mature. And I think that's what it comes down to. You know your kid and what they're ready for so it has to an individual decision. Isn't Sozlet turning 9 soon?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 22 Aug, 2009 07:12 am
@sozobe,
I think, this really might be a cultural thing.

One of our godsons started 'high school' ("Gymnasium") this week, aged 10.
He drives there with his bike, crossing two major roads in quite a large city (Dortmund). Those of his class who live farer away come by public transport (bus/tram/underground), on their own (though with [reduced] 'pupil tickets').

His sister, aged 6, started primary school the same day: the first two weeks or so, her mother accompanies her (on bike as well walking) to her school (only one major road to cross. Then she'll do it on her own. (They trained the school way in kindergarten.)

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boomerang
 
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Reply Sat 22 Aug, 2009 07:37 am
Maybe it was a parent on the other end of the phone saying "When you get to the curb, STOP!, now look left.... Do you see any cars?.... Now look right...."
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vikorr
 
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Reply Sun 23 Aug, 2009 04:10 am
I recall reading a study about 10-15 years ago that children are unable to tell the direction that sound is coming from until about 9 years of age.
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Linkat
 
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Reply Mon 24 Aug, 2009 11:46 am
@Setanta,
And I bet you walked in snow storms and up hill each way.
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Linkat
 
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Reply Mon 24 Aug, 2009 11:48 am
@Walter Hinteler,
We have a saying here - when our kids are bothering us, we tell them to go play in the traffic.

So your comment about walking in traffic hit a funny spot for me. It gave a picture of children walking directly in traffic along with the cars.
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