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Glenn Beck shoots self in mouth?

 
 
FreeDuck
 
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Reply Sun 30 Aug, 2009 09:05 am
@farmerman,
Sounds like something from The Onion.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Sun 30 Aug, 2009 05:45 pm
a portrait of glenn beck


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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 30 Aug, 2009 06:10 pm
Quote:


An advertising boycott against Fox News host Glenn Beck has succeeded in keeping most major sponsors from running commercials on his show even as the controversial commentator's viewership has grown.

Beck attracted 2.81 million viewers Monday, his third-largest audience since his show launched on Fox News in January, according to Nielsen Media Research data provided by the network. On Tuesday, nearly 2.7 million viewers tuned in, his fifth-largest viewership to date. And the conservative host got a plug from former vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin, who urged people to watch his program in a post on her Facebook page.
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Fox News insists that the boycott has not affected its revenue, because advertisers have just moved their commercials to different time periods. And for his part, Beck appears invigorated by the challenge. “Even if the powers to be right now succeed in making me poor, drum me out … I will only be stronger for it,” he said on the air Wednesday. “And I will use American ingenuity and my ingenuity to pull myself up, and I will find another way to get this message out, on a platform that will be a thousand times more powerful. Because of my faith, I know how this story ends. The truth will set you free.”

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2009/08/as-boycott-continues-glenn-becks-audience-swells.html
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Mon 31 Aug, 2009 04:59 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

THIS JUST IN: Cf Blogowogo clipping a news asource (You go find it, Im going fishing)
Quote:


Outtake:

BREAKING NEWS " CNN and MSNBC reported Saturday (8/29/2009) that conservative television pundit, Glenn Beck, has been admitted to the State of New York-run Manhattan Psychiatric Center for nervous exhaustion. The hospitalization came after Beck’s inner circle had witnessed a month’s-long change in his personality.



“It all started with the crying, ” said fellow Fox newscaster Gretchen Carlson. “I knew something was wrong when he came to me " in tears " after one show claiming Barack Hussein Obama was actually born in Hawaii. Of course we all know that’s impossible. I was shocked that he would hold such anti-American, socialist, Nazi beliefs. Clearly the man was completely nuts. I had Bill O’Relly’s personal bodyguards throw him out of the studio. It was petrified at his liberal views.”



Im sure that this will become fuzzed away like his previous stints have been fuzzed away by over blogging and transmutative reporting. Laughing

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Interestingly, if you Google

+"Manhattan Psychiatric Center" +"Glenn Beck"

nothing comes up on any site remotely resembling a legitimate news site, and I looked hard. I guess some liberals will stop at nothing to discredit political opponents, including making up false stories about hospitalization.
snood
 
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Reply Mon 31 Aug, 2009 05:27 am
Dang, Brandon - did you read the piece? It's clearly satire.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 31 Aug, 2009 05:29 am
@Brandon9000,
did you get the significance of the emoticons yet? I hope you didnt spend alot of your Sunday searching, when this one was the first thing that pops up. Are you Googley facile?
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Tue 1 Sep, 2009 04:50 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

did you get the significance of the emoticons yet? I hope you didnt spend alot of your Sunday searching, when this one was the first thing that pops up. Are you Googley facile?

Let me remind you of the conversation to this point. You said:

farmerman wrote:
..As far as Becks "mental state" he has been hospitalized at least twice while he was on radio and shortly after his CNN days began, These hopsital stays were ostensibly for mental exhaustion (HINT , mental exhaustion= meltdown).

Not a joke, just a false accusation. When I asked you politely to post a link, you first ranted about how you weren't responsible to support your own accusations, and then, when I insisted that you do so, posted that. Therefore, you made a false accusation against a political enemy, and then, when you realized that it was probably not true, lacked the integrity to simply admit it.
msolga
 
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Reply Tue 1 Sep, 2009 05:17 am
Now that I finally have broadband access, I can watch video clips here & elsewhere on internet. So recently I watched a Glenn Beck video, then I watched that fellow advocating flag burning at a Texas Secession rally. And I've gotta say I'm rather gobsmacked. I know anyone can have their 3 minutes of fame on YouTube, no matter how irrelevant they might actually be ... but are folk like these actually taken seriously by more than a handful of people?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 1 Sep, 2009 05:21 am
@msolga,
Yes. There is even more than a handful here on A2K ...
msolga
 
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Reply Tue 1 Sep, 2009 05:26 am
@Walter Hinteler,
If that's so, Walter, it's truly frightening.
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 1 Sep, 2009 05:31 am
@msolga,
Saddening, more than anything else. Even in the heyday of Mr. Bush's administration, the power of such demagogues and the sheep who followed them was more apparent than real. They bear watching, but they're not a real threat to the American system.
msolga
 
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Reply Tue 1 Sep, 2009 05:41 am
@Setanta,
This might sound a rather ignorant question, but I'm wondering .... are such people working in some sort of organized way together, under some broad political umbrella (like the moral majority), or are they just mavericks with similar political leanings?
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 1 Sep, 2009 05:50 am
@Brandon9000,
Are you insinuating that Becks hospital stays were mere publicity cries for attention? Perhaps, I never considered that as an option but Im never surprised at how far he tris to stretch reality and logic.

I sometimes listen to him when Im in the car and theres nothing available on FM . (Seems that the demagogues all have access to the "Clear Channels" so that they etend their wattage for great distances into the hills and hollers.) His pronouncements are, for the most part, wrong headed (although he protests to the opposite) and just illogical. He passes himself off as an expert inreligious thinking, Islam, economics, and several other areas. Hes merely a buffoon who craves the spotlight and his hospitalizations in the last few years may really have been publicity stunts, I dont know.

Ill let you ponder it over, Im going clamming this morning.
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 1 Sep, 2009 06:25 am
@msolga,
The majority of them are mavericks, and of course, demagogues like Beck and Limbaugh are simply out to make as good a living as they can exploiting the fears and prejudices of their audiences. Nevertheless, there are people who work in an organized way. The Project for a New American Century long had a plan to invade Iraq, and urged President Clinton to do so in an open letter in 1997. I used to simply provide a link to the PNAC web site for the evidence for this, but those boys have stopped paying their bills, and the web site is (the last time i checked, at least) inaccessible.

Well, i checked and the Project for a New American Century's web site is apparently back in business. They were founded by former members of the administration of Ronald Reagan, many of whom occupied positions of responsibility in the administration of the second Mr. Bush--such as Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz and many others of the usual suspects who ought to rounded up whenever a political crime has been committed.

Additionally, of course, there are conservative "think tanks" which receive large donations from conservative backers and who articulate the philosophy of American conservatives. Examples of conservative think tanks would be the Heritage Foundation and the American Enterprise Institute. There are, of course, "liberal" (in the narrow and essentially center-right American definition) think tanks, as well. So even with running-dog capitalist, imperialist organizations such as the PNAC, we are talking about "mainstream" organizations. People like Glenn Beck represent the lunatic fringe of American conservatism--or at least attempt to exploit the sentiments of the lunatic fringe.

There are some scarier things going on, though. There are a host of small colleges, of the type which are usually described as liberal arts colleges, but which are anything but liberal. Some are down-right lunatic fringe themselves, such as Bob Jones University, in Greenville, South Carolina. It is a fundamentalist Christian school, and was segregated racially until about 2000 or 2001, even to the extent of forbidding interracial dating. It has been outspoken in its criticisms of Roman Catholicism and the Mormons (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints), claiming that neither of these major churches is Christian. During the Reagan administration the IRS (the Internal Revenue Service, the tax boys and girls) revoked the tax-exempt status of Bob Jones University, on the basis of their racial discrimination, and demanded that they pay back taxes. The university took them to court, and the Reagan administration (unwisely) attempted to quash the court actions. Finally forced to back down, the Reagan administration had to watch as the Supreme Court ruled against Bob Jones University. BJU had argued that their racial segregation and no inter-racial dating policies were sincerely held religious beliefs, and that God intended racial segregation and that the bible forbids inter-racial marriage. They have since had to pay millions in taxes and back taxes, and their contributions fell off. They are still a pretty damned rich college, though, and lots of people still enroll there. BJU was also controversial as a string of political figures from the right, starting with Ronald Reagan, spoke there. Bob Jones III is a little bit wacko--he described George Bush the elder as "a devil," and called Reagan a traitor to God's people for choosing him as a running mate. Within a decade, Jones was shaking Bush's hand and praising him.

It is claimed that BJU has largely withdrawn from politics, and in 2008 the university formally and publicly apologized for its racial policies. They are still not tax exempt, last time i checked, even though continuing to advertise themselves as a religious organization.

There are plenty of such religious colleges in the United States, and there is essentially nothing wrong with that. The problems with BJU were a direct reflection of the problems with Bob Jones, Bob Jones, Jr., and Bob Jones III--they were all nut jobs. Ironically, Bob Jones (the original one) was a supporter of William Jennings Bryan, considered a dangerous socialist demagogue by the Republicans of his day (1890s).

Among other famous (or notorious) institutions of this kind are Oral Roberts University, founded by a televangelist, Oral Roberts, who is essentially the granddaddy of American televangelists. ORU has never been the center of controversies as toxic as those which plagued BJU, but it has not been free of scandal. It has been criticized by other Christians for its materialism, and a law suit was brought by some former professors against Richard Roberts, son of the founder, for peculation and for illegally contributing to the political campaigns of conservative politicians. Robers lost, and resigned.

Liberty University is another such institution. The controversial televangelist Jerry Falwell, with an outspoken conservative political agenda, founded the college, which later achieved the honor of university status. Because, apparently, televangelists like to seek their greater glory by founding such institutions, they are often inextricably linked to the fund-raising activities of their founders. The SEC, no less, investigated Falwell and his college. (The SEC--the Securities and Exchange Commission, investigates investment fraud.) There were and continued to be serious questions about the bond issues at the school, and eventually, using funds from private contributors, LU bought out their debt, and separated themselves from Falwell's televangelist empire. LU claims to be "training champions for Christ" (taken directly from their web site).

The one i think is most scary is Patrick Henry College (named for a famous Virginia Patriot, alleged--but never proven--to have said "Give me liberty, or give me death!"). They are a fundamentalist Christian "liberal arts" college in Virginia which intends to train Christian soldiers to work in government. During the recent Bush administration, a number of their graduates were employed in minor positions, and a great many of their students got summer jobs as interns in the executive branch, as well as in the Congress. Their stated goal is to put as many of their Christian soldiers into government as possible, for the express purpose of forwarding their notion of God's plan by means of the government. Them boys is the real scary ones. To their credit, they are not affiliated with any of the bible-thumping televangelists, and i know of no legal or moral scandals which attach to the institution.

To a large extent, the American conservatives are in disarray these days, and that is because of a leadership vacuum. Most conservatives are, of course, normal, decent, honest and honorable people who are troubled by the turn to the extreme right which the Republican Party took, and who, although they may listen to people like Limbaugh and Beck, tend to think for themselves. Limbaugh and Beck rely on the lunatic fringe, the "ditto-heads" (an epithet for Limbaugh's supporters, and a badge which they proudly wore) who want someone apparently clever to do their thinking for them.
msolga
 
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Reply Tue 1 Sep, 2009 07:23 am
@Setanta,
Thanks for such a detailed response to my question, Setanta. You know, the more I learn about US politics, the more confusing & complicated things become! Seems (to an outsider) that there's an extremely visible, vocal & established extreme right in the US, with a variety of manifestations, but little representation in the media (that I'm aware of, anyway) of left-of-centre ideas via their political organizations & spokespeople. I would like to ask more questions, but really don't want to divert the thread too much from its original intention.
One last comment: I find it interesting (no, amazing, really) that the likes of Limbaugh and Beck apparently have such high visibility in the US mainstream media .... which gives their views a "respectability" I suspect they would otherwise not enjoy.
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Tue 1 Sep, 2009 07:46 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

Are you insinuating that Becks hospital stays were mere publicity cries for attention? Perhaps, I never considered that as an option but Im never surprised at how far he tris to stretch reality and logic.

I sometimes listen to him when Im in the car and theres nothing available on FM . (Seems that the demagogues all have access to the "Clear Channels" so that they etend their wattage for great distances into the hills and hollers.) His pronouncements are, for the most part, wrong headed (although he protests to the opposite) and just illogical. He passes himself off as an expert inreligious thinking, Islam, economics, and several other areas. Hes merely a buffoon who craves the spotlight and his hospitalizations in the last few years may really have been publicity stunts, I dont know.

Ill let you ponder it over, Im going clamming this morning.

Again, post one real link which supports your claim that he was hospitalized for mental exhaustion. I've asked this repeatedly and you still haven't been able to. Support the accusation you made.
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panzade
 
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Reply Tue 1 Sep, 2009 07:48 am
@msolga,
kudos to set for a nice overview.

There is delicious irony in the fact that an Aussie, Rupert Murdoch, intensified the polarization of American media outlets by starting the Fox network and Fox news, a direct competitor to Ted Turner's CNN.

Glenn Beck of course resides on Fox News

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Murdoch
msolga
 
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Reply Tue 1 Sep, 2009 07:58 am
@panzade,
Quote:
There is delicious irony in the fact that an Aussie, Rupert Murdoch, intensified the polarization of American media outlets by starting the Fox network and Fox news, a direct competitor to Ted Turner's CNN.

Glenn Beck of course resides on Fox News


Yes, I find Rupert's role in this very interesting, indeed! He enjoys making money & wielding (a lot of) power & influence. So you, in the US, got Fox News & the likes of Glenn Beck .... & the UK got the News of the World. You have to ask: why is he pushing this deliberate ultra right wing , dumbed down agenda?
panzade
 
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Reply Tue 1 Sep, 2009 08:14 am
@msolga,
Because it makes scads of money and he is foremost a very good businessman . However, I've heard he really likes Obama and calls him a rock star. Probably because he will give Fox News juicy fodder to garner rating points.
msolga
 
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Reply Tue 1 Sep, 2009 08:19 am
@panzade,
Dunno that it's simply the money thing, Panzade. I suspect he could still make quite a bit of $$$$ without unleashing dangerous political weirdos.
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