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Lessons in Civility: what liberals can learn from the right

 
 
Reply Fri 10 Oct, 2003 12:28 pm
Lessons in Civility
By PAUL KRUGMAN
Published: October 10, 2003 - N.Y. Times

t's the season of the angry liberal. Books like Al Franken's "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them," Joe Conason's "Big Lies" and Molly Ivins's "Bushwhacked" have become best sellers. (Yes, I've got one out there, too.) But conservatives are distressed because those liberals are so angry and rude. O.K., they admit, they themselves were a bit rude during the Clinton years ?- that seven-year, $70 million investigation of a tiny money-losing land deal, all that fuss about the president's private life ?- but they're sorry, and now it's time for everyone to be civil.

Indeed, angry liberals can take some lessons in civility from today's right.

Consider, for example, Fox News's genteel response to Christiane Amanpour, the CNN correspondent. Ms. Amanpour recently expressed some regret over CNN's prewar reporting: "Perhaps, to a certain extent, my station was intimidated by the administration and its foot soldiers at Fox News." A Fox spokeswoman replied, "It's better to be viewed as a foot soldier for Bush than as a spokeswoman for Al Qaeda."

And liberal pundits who may be tempted to cast personal aspersions can take lessons in courtesy from conservatives like Charles Krauthammer, who last December reminded TV viewers of his previous career as a psychiatrist, then said of Al Gore, "He could use a little help."

What's really important, of course, is that political figures stick to the issues, like the Bush adviser who told The New York Times that the problem with Senator John Kerry is that "he looks French."

Some say that the right, having engaged in name-calling and smear tactics when Bill Clinton was president, now wants to change the rules so such behavior is no longer allowed. In fact, the right is still calling names and smearing; it wants to prohibit rude behavior only by liberals.

But there's more going on than a simple attempt to impose a double standard. All this fuss about the rudeness of the Bush administration's critics is an attempt to preclude serious discussion of that administration's policies. For there is no way to be both honest and polite about what has happened in these past three years.

On the fiscal front, this administration has used deceptive accounting to ram through repeated long-run tax cuts in the face of mounting deficits. And it continues to push for more tax cuts, when even the most sober observers now talk starkly about the risk to our solvency. It's impolite to say that George W. Bush is the most fiscally irresponsible president in American history, but it would be dishonest to pretend otherwise.

On the foreign policy front, this administration hyped the threat from Iraq, ignoring warnings from military professionals that a prolonged postwar occupation would tie down much of our Army and undermine our military readiness. (Joseph Galloway, co-author of "We Were Soldiers Once . . . and Young," says that "we have perhaps the finest Army in history," but that "Donald H. Rumsfeld and his civilian aides have done just about everything they could to destroy that Army.") It's impolite to say that Mr. Bush has damaged our national security with his military adventurism, but it would be dishonest to pretend otherwise.

Still, some would say that criticism should focus only on Mr. Bush's policies, not on his person. But no administration in memory has made paeans to the president's character ?- his "honor and integrity" ?- so central to its political strategy. Nor has any previous administration been so determined to portray the president as a hero, going so far as to pose him in line with the heads on Mount Rushmore, or arrange that landing on the aircraft carrier. Surely, then, Mr. Bush's critics have the right to point out that the life story of the man inside the flight suit isn't particularly heroic ?- that he has never taken a risk or made a sacrifice for the sake of his country, and that his business career is a story of murky deals and insider privilege.

In the months after 9/11, a shocked nation wanted to believe the best of its leader, and Mr. Bush was treated with reverence. But he abused the trust placed in him, pushing a partisan agenda that has left the nation weakened and divided. Yes, I know that's a rude thing to say. But it's also the truth.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sat 11 Oct, 2003 12:54 pm
Fire when ready, critic!
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 11 Oct, 2003 01:06 pm
I happen to believe just the opposite, in that the cheap labor Republicans could learn a bit of civility.
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Sofia
 
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Reply Sat 11 Oct, 2003 01:10 pm
Quote:
But he abused the trust placed in him, pushing a partisan agenda that has left the nation weakened and divided. Yes, I know that's a rude thing to say. But it's also the truth.

It's not the truth. It's a biased opinion. What partisan agenda was pushed? The nation has been strengthened, not weakened. And that's the truth.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sat 11 Oct, 2003 01:12 pm
My truth is bigger than your truth! Nyah, Nyah! Laughing
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sat 11 Oct, 2003 01:14 pm
Seriously, this has been going on since the country was created. Some of us had better go back and read the periodicals of the days of Washington, Adams, Jefferson, et al. Not to mention the scandals of 1876 (one hundred years into the Republic and those dang journalists were not just nipping at the heels of the politicians, they were biting off their feet!).
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Sofia
 
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Reply Sat 11 Oct, 2003 01:22 pm
I know. I feel compelled at times to stick some positive amid the nabob cacophony.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sat 11 Oct, 2003 01:29 pm
I have to work on being that cockeye optimist myself sometimes -- Bill Maher says to be more cynical and sometimes I think he's right. No, he's left. No, he's right. Who the hell knows?
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sat 11 Oct, 2003 01:31 pm
And I didn't know we had Indian dignataries on the forum. Are they all named Bob? Laughing




(Nay Bob)
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Sofia
 
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Reply Sat 11 Oct, 2003 01:36 pm
Laughing
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sat 11 Oct, 2003 01:38 pm
Anyone here watching HBO's new "K Street?" I posted something about it and I'm still trying to figure out what Clooney and company are trying to do. Very experimental and difficult to follow.
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Sofia
 
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Reply Sat 11 Oct, 2003 01:50 pm
Lightwizard wrote:
Anyone here watching HBO's new "K Street?" I posted something about it and I'm still trying to figure out what Clooney and company are trying to do. Very experimental and difficult to follow.


I am completely hooked! K Street used to be the one I watched, while perched for Carnivale. Now, K Street is the draw. I'm sort of amazed at the view Matalin is allowing. Did you see the scene where someone told her they were surprised that, after her idealistic, important career, she'd chosen to slum as a lobbiest/PR rep? They characterized her as having sold out. Her answer--"I've got kids to feed..."

I don't know how much of an inside view we're getting--but it's much more than anything we've had before.

Me: enthralled.
You?
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sat 11 Oct, 2003 02:08 pm
I'm hooked just because I'm fascinated at where it seems to be going. There's little delicious tidbits like the one you described and then the last episode that sprang backwards two months kind of threw me off.

I love Matalin's candor about lobbying and how much money there is to be made. They're both onery partisans so it sure puts a new twist on opposites attract, huh!
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Sofia
 
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Reply Sat 11 Oct, 2003 05:06 pm
It is starting to seem like a new campaign/PR tool of some notable politicos.
Boxer made some brownie points, and Schuman (?Dem NY), specifically. Both anti-Saudi. That was a good show--and it pissed me off to see the Matalin/Carville firm bending over backwards to justify their Saudi bedfellows... Evil or Very Mad

Hey. Maybe we should start a thread to commiserate. Very Happy
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Sat 11 Oct, 2003 05:45 pm
I'm hooked on most HBO original films, series, etc., but have found Carnivale, K Street, and the movie with Maggie Smith, filmed in Tuscany, to be uniformly unwatchable! Go figure!
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sat 11 Oct, 2003 05:45 pm
I started one in TV and then moved it to Politics but it got buried:

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12273
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Sofia
 
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Reply Sat 11 Oct, 2003 06:18 pm
SHUT UP!! :wink:
Nice to see your flower, Tartar!
Do you mean you didn't like My House In Umbria??? Get out!

<um, no. don't get out. hang around.>

LW, thanks for the link. We'll have to go there are criticise Tartar! Laughing
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sat 11 Oct, 2003 06:33 pm
Didn't care that much for "My House in Umbria," and "Carnivale" has to unfold -- they have the atmosphere and time frame right but the storytelling is just getting started. It is a series, after all. As to "K Street," I have no idea where it's heading yet and Clooney himself said they were creating and writing it as they go along. I still want to give it a chance. Well, this should be over on the proper thread although I am ribbing Sofia for "taking a break."
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sat 11 Oct, 2003 06:34 pm
(I'll admit they have a tough bill to fill trying to come up to the level of "The Sopranos," "Six Feet Under" and "OZ!")
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Brand X
 
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Reply Sat 11 Oct, 2003 06:43 pm
I agree, K Street meanders. Carnivale reminds me of a David Lynch movie which I like, the bizarre. OZ is so intense, Sopranos good too.
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