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Privilege Claim Is Possible in Leak Probe

 
 
Reply Tue 7 Oct, 2003 11:39 am
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Privilege Claim Is Possible in Leak Probe
The Bush White House apparently plans to review the documents before releasing them. The 'outed' CIA agent is considering a lawsuit.
By Richard B. Schmitt and Maura Reynolds
L.A. Times Staff Writers -
October 7, 2003

WASHINGTON ?- The White House said Monday that it might take up to two weeks to turn over all the documents requested by the Justice Department in connection with its probe of who leaked the name of a CIA operative to columnist Robert Novak.

The drawn-out timetable, which suggests that officials may be considering invoking claims of executive privilege in connection with some of the materials being sought, comes as scores of White House staffers are scrambling to assemble electronic, phone and computer records related to the investigation.

As of late Monday, about 500 staffers had responded to a request from White House counsel Alberto R. Gonzales to turn over the requested records to his office by the end of business today or else certify in writing that they didn't have any pertinent materials in their possession, a spokeswoman said.

The hunt for documents began last week at the behest of Justice Department investigators checking out allegations that a Bush administration official leaked the name of CIA operative Valerie Plame to journalists in an effort to retaliate against her husband, former envoy Joseph C. Wilson IV, for criticizing administration policy on Iraq.

Novak disclosed Plame's name in a July 14 column, suggesting that she might have been responsible for getting her husband selected for a CIA-backed mission to Niger in 2002 to assess foreign intelligence that Saddam Hussein was trying to purchase a form of uranium to make nuclear weapons.

Wilson reported back that the claims about Hussein's interest in African "yellowcake" uranium appeared to be bogus, which has since been verified.

But the allegation was used in President Bush's State of the Union address in January anyway, which in turn triggered Wilson to write a critical opinion piece in the New York Times. Novak's column followed that opinion piece eight days later.

The completion of the document search will mark a new phase of the investigation, potentially putting the White House at odds with the demands of investigators.

Depending on the volume of materials, Bush lawyers face the potentially cumbersome task of sorting through information for relevance, and then having to decide whether to assert a privilege for materials on the grounds of national security or attorney-client privilege.

That has been a flashpoint in the past ?- from President Nixon's initial refusal to turn over his audiotapes during the Watergate affair, to some of President Clinton's aides' resistance to answer certain grand jury questions about the Monica S. Lewinsky sex-and-perjury case.

"They will read through everything that is provided, and make an assessment whether there is anything in there that is potentially privileged," said Beth Nolan, a White House counsel during the Clinton administration and now a lawyer at the Washington law firm Crowell & Moring.

"If something is just sensitive but not privileged, they cannot refuse to turn it over," she said, "but they may want to be prepared for that and know that."

A spokeswoman declined to comment on whether the White House planned to invoke executive privilege, saying it was too early to say. But she reiterated that the administration planned to "cooperate fully" in the investigation.

The whodunit has, to a degree, gripped Washington, and has spawned speculation about who may have tipped off Novak and possibly other journalists.

Over the weekend, the White House, responding to questions from reporters, sought to eliminate two men whose possible involvement had been rumored: I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, who is Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, and Elliot Abrams, director of Middle East affairs at the National Security Council.

"Neither of these individuals were involved in leaking this classified information, nor would they condone it," a White House spokeswoman said.

Previously, the White House had issued a similar denial on behalf of Karl Rove, the president's chief political advisor.

But White House officials have also attempted to draw a distinction between leaking the name of an operative and thereby breaking the law, and calling the attention of reporters to that information after it already has been made public.

Meanwhile, a lawyer for the Wilson family said it is considering a civil lawsuit against unspecified government officials for damages, on grounds including invasion of privacy and emotional distress, among other potential claims.

"There is no question that the Wilsons' legal rights have been violated in a number of ways," said Christopher Wolf, a privacy expert in the Washington office of the Proskauer Rose law firm.

"Whether a civil action to vindicate those rights makes sense at this time is something that we are carefully considering," he said.

Revealing the name of a covert operative is a federal crime, although few cases have been prosecuted under the law. The government must prove that the person who leaked the information knew that the operative's status was classified, and that the name was disclosed intentionally, rather than in casual conversation.

Former prosecutors say leak cases are next to impossible to prove without the cooperation of the journalists who receive them, and so far, in the case of the unmasked CIA operative, they aren't talking.

What's more, tracing phone conversations between journalists and administration officials may also prove exceedingly difficult.

The White House phone system is such that electronic records show only that calls come into or out of a main switchboard, rather than to specific extensions, an administration official said.

In addition, the regularity with which officials maintain separate phone logs varies, another former administration official said.

Some employees have their assistants catalog all calls placed and received, and those lists would have to be turned over, according to Justice Department investigators' document order. Others don't keep such careful records.
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williamhenry3
 
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Reply Tue 7 Oct, 2003 01:33 pm
Re: Privilege Claim Is Possible in Leak Probe
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:

That has been a flashpoint in the past ?- from President Nixon's initial refusal to turn over his audiotapes during the Watergate affair, to some of President Clinton's aides' resistance to answer certain grand jury questions about the Monica S. Lewinsky sex-and-perjury case.


Time grows near for the White House staffers to turn in all documents pertinent to this case. The outcome could be as explosive as the "yellow cake" itself.

If Dubya was smart, he would end this most current "executive privilege"
flap by finding out quickly the person(s) responsible for this leak. Branding Dubya as "smart," however, just doesn't seem quite correct.
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Tue 7 Oct, 2003 06:13 pm
Executive privelige? Secrecy? From this administration? Shocked
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Italgato
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2003 03:00 am
I am sure that Hobitbob is not aware that President Bush learned all about Executive Privilege from President Clinton who used it very skillfully.
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williamhenry3
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2003 06:22 pm
Italgato wrote:
I am sure that Hobitbob is not aware that President Bush learned all about Executive Privilege from President Clinton who used it very skillfully.


Italgato<

Bill Clinton is not running for president of the United States. He is now a common citizen just like you and me.

What he did -- and did not do -- during his presidency will be judged later by historians and not from posters such as you who probably have no inkling of how many times Mr. Clinton invoked "Executive Privilege" during his presidency.

I certainly don't know, so could you please enlighten me and other A2k members with some links to verify the number of times Mr. Clinton asked for "Executive Privilege?"

Since Bill Clinton passed the presidency to Dubya in January 2001, the gentleman with the ranch in Texas is the only president we have, and I suggest that in the context of this thread, we only have one president serving at this time, i.e., Dubya.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2003 06:28 pm
Well it is monkey see, monkey do after all.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2003 06:29 pm
(And it was Richard Nixon who made Executive Privilege forever reknown in the annals of American history).
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williamhenry3
 
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Reply Thu 9 Oct, 2003 10:19 am
Lightwizard,

Once again, I agree with you.
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John Webb
 
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Reply Thu 9 Oct, 2003 11:18 am
Williamhenry3 said " we only have one president serving at this time, i.e., Dubya."

Strange, I thought it was Chaney or Rumsfeld? Embarrassed
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williamhenry3
 
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Reply Thu 9 Oct, 2003 04:18 pm
John Webb<

After Dubya has reassigned duties in his executive department this week, I believe Sec. Rumsfeld could no longer be listed as presidential timber.

I would, however, agree with Vice-President Cheney and National Security Adviser Condoleeza Rice as being Dubya's de facto co-co presidents.


Rolling Eyes
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 9 Oct, 2003 04:35 pm
The problem with this fiasco was highlighted in a Washington Times column that Gato posted in another thread a while ago.

Mostly, leakers are insiders in an administration leaking stuff that embarrasses the administration by calling attention to faults. Except for a few leakers who are simply trying to spin certain information for their administration, most leakers are enemies -- traitors to the administration for whom they work.

In this instance, the leaker apparently thought he/she was helping the administration -- by trying to silence dissent with a warning that whistle-blowers will pay a high price for their disloyalty.

Most administrations strain to find the leakers -- anxious to get rid of them.

But in this case, the Bush administration knows the leaker was a zealot -- and zealots are a needed commodity for a bunch as inept as this group.

So they ain't gonna help unless they are FORCED to.

As I said to Gato in the other thread, my guess is someone is going to be required to fall on his/her sword. And my further guess is that sword falling is going to become epidemic in Washington during the next two years.

This administration is manned by a bunch of impetuous ****-ups. Somebody is going to have to take the blame for the many mistakes they are making -- and the line-up of potential fall-guys is growing by the minute.
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John Webb
 
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Reply Fri 10 Oct, 2003 12:30 am
Frank, in politics, it is not easy extracting resignations from those who know where most of the bodies are buried - and this Administration has their own personal graveyard.

More likely, if compelled, they will find a patsy who knows nothing. How about bin Laden? Rolling Eyes
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williamhenry3
 
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Reply Fri 10 Oct, 2003 12:28 pm
Frank<

Dubya and members of his administration seem to think this "leak" problem will go away. Their attitude is much like the Nixon administration in the Watergate era.

Dubya thinks if he's quiet long enough, the press will forget the outing of the CIA spy and the fact that it places her life, her family and her peers in harm's way. This is to say nothing about the fact that Plame's career --
one with impeccable credentials -- has been ruined.

He prefers instead to traverse the country trying to fan a smokescreen which says we are right and in fact are winning the war in Iraq. He is forgetting that he declared this war "won" some six months ago. He is too fearful to face unfriendly audiences, preferring instead to speak to military folks and school children.

Meanwhile, alas, the Kobe Bryant case and the Roy Horn mauling are getting more press play than Dubya. All the while, more Americans are being killed in Iraq, and in his twisted brain, Dubya comes out saying we are doing better over there than expected.

The people of the nation, however, and its press are not going to let Dubya off the hook so quickly on this "leak" episode. He best find the leaker(s), deal with them forthrightly, and get on with the country's business.

Trying to "cover-up" the leak will topple his administration, just as Watergate eventually did Nixon's.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 10 Oct, 2003 02:44 pm
williamhenry3 wrote:
Trying to "cover-up" the leak will topple his administration, just as Watergate eventually did Nixon's.


Now wouldn't that be nice.

Let's keep our fingers crossed.
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John Webb
 
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Reply Sat 11 Oct, 2003 04:33 am
Williamhenry3 said "All the while, more Americans are being killed in Iraq, and in his twisted brain, Dubya comes out saying we are doing better over there than expected. "

Two more dead yesterday and four more injured, months after the war ended. If this is "better than expected, what in Heaven's name was his worst case scenario?
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williamhenry3
 
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Reply Sat 11 Oct, 2003 01:14 pm
John Webb wrote:
Two more dead yesterday and four more injured, months after the war ended. If this is "better than expected, what in Heaven's name was his worst case scenario?


John Webb<

His "worst case scenario" probably would be losing the White House in the 2004 election -- or, finding himself personally in a face-to-face "shoot out" with Saddam Hussein like the one depicted in the film High Noon.

To get the correct answer, I suppose you'd need to ask Dubya.
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John Webb
 
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Reply Sun 12 Oct, 2003 12:25 pm
In the light of the latest Baghdad Bomb, which is reported to have killed and injured more unprotected Iraqis helping the Bush agenda, one can anticipate a rapid drying-up of Iraqi cannon fodder.

Still, the good news is that that Turkey, against the wishes of their voters and many Iraqis, will be helping to send some U.S. forces home before the Presidential election, by putting 10,000 of their own troops into Iraq.

Surely the eight billion dollars in aid from American taxpayers, reported on TV last night, cannot have influenced their decision?

And should this money be declared as a Bush campaign contribution? Rolling Eyes
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Brand X
 
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Reply Sun 12 Oct, 2003 12:39 pm
It may have influenced their decision but it wasn't a condition required for the loan.

The loan is to bolster their debt and buy their support for the war, but they can't recieve any installments until the IMF completes it's review of Turkey's progress in implementing their economic reforms.

The bombing casualties would have been much worse had the security in place not taken action before the car reached it's planned destination, closer to the building.
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williamhenry3
 
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Reply Sun 12 Oct, 2003 05:07 pm
John Webb wrote:
In the light of the latest Baghdad Bomb, which is reported to have killed and injured more unprotected Iraqis helping the Bush agenda


John Webb<

Yessiree, things are getting better in Bagdhad, just like Dubya has been preaching this past week.

Trouble is Dubya has been unable to silence both the hostilities and the press. The press, even FOXNews, keeps on reporting these bloody bullets over Baghdad.

Will the Turkish troops be in place by Thanksgiving so all Americans can enjoy Turkey this year?
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Sun 12 Oct, 2003 05:22 pm
All in favour of sending Bush and Cheney over to see things first hand? I think the folks in period I study ahd the right idea: when you went to war, your leaders were out front!
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