7
   

California state budget now shows a $27 billion deficit

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Tue 21 Jul, 2009 06:34 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Our state government finally passed the budget that took effect July 1, 2009, but they're still playing games with revenue by borrowing $4.4 billion from cities and counties, and increasing the income tax collections from workers, and delaying paying state workers from June 30 to July 1 to transfer that expense into next fiscal year. The good news is, they finally learned that they had to cut expenses, and started on that road - trimming a little here and a little there. This will surely put them in worse trouble as the year progresses, because tax revenue will continue to fall as our economy struggles to keep workers.

It's a good thing all those propositions they tried to get voters to approve in February were all defeated, because they're still playing games without making harder choices to cut expenses. They're going to face bigger problems for next fiscal year.
hawkeye10
 
  1  
Reply Tue 21 Jul, 2009 07:29 pm
@cicerone imposter,
California has been stealing from local government for a long time....you folks should be able to go to court and put a stop to it.

Quote:
"Clearly it's a big take from local government, it's a big take from San Jose, it's a big take from Santa Clara County -- it'll have a very negative impact on the people of San Jose, but the state makes the rules and apparently they're going to take our money," said Mayor Reed.
No numbers are known yet, but San Jose anticipates the state will draw about $100 million from local revenues. Monies will be pulled by suspending Prop 1A, in order to take from property and sales tax revenues. Gas taxes will be borrowed and so will funds from the redevelopment agencies. The state is going to have to brace for a fight.
The constitution of the state does not allowing taking of redevelopment money, and furthermore, they're proposing to take highway users' tax money, which is also unconstitutional, so this is just a giant Ponzi scheme," said Dan Furtado, Campbell City Councilmember.

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/politics&id=6925710&rss=rss-kgo-article-6925710
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Tue 21 Jul, 2009 07:47 pm
@hawkeye10,
I know, but the problems are exacerbated by the local governments also over-spending, even during good economic years. All they know how to do is spend, spend, and spend. They don't know how to save for that rainy day, and they keep increasing payroll and benefits to the point where they don't have any room to be flexible, and are always afraid to fire people to save cost. They all play budget games by borrowing from Bill to pay Paul, and they think they'll be able to sustain playing games forever. How do they manage their home budgets? Credit cards.
hawkeye10
 
  1  
Reply Tue 21 Jul, 2009 07:56 pm
@cicerone imposter,
The crisis is NOW, with receipts still falling, with local social needs up, and now the state is coming in and stealing AGAIN. Local governments have to put an end to this once and for all. I remember in the early nineties the state resorted to begging the local governments not to make a big stink, promising a high rate of interest to keep them quiet. The local governments are now paying for not doing then what was required....at the worst time possible, with needs huge and local reserves long since gone, the state is back at it. The locals need the money now, and I don't think that the state is even talking about a high interest rate pay-off are they??.
0 Replies
 
engineer
 
  1  
Reply Tue 21 Jul, 2009 08:24 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

I know, but the problems are exacerbated by the local governments also over-spending, even during good economic years. All they know how to do is spend, spend, and spend. They don't know how to save for that rainy day, and they keep increasing payroll and benefits to the point where they don't have any room to be flexible, and are always afraid to fire people to save cost. They all play budget games by borrowing from Bill to pay Paul, and they think they'll be able to sustain playing games forever. How do they manage their home budgets? Credit cards.

My understanding is the many of the local governments are in good shape financially because they have been prudent and stashed reserves. That's why they are such good targets for the state. Have you read otherwise?
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Tue 21 Jul, 2009 08:53 pm
@engineer,
engineer, I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion, because most local governments have lost most of their revenue from property tax and sales tax; some communities have lost over 50% of their property values, and retail sales have also taken big hits. It would be very unique to find any community, both city and county, that has planned for such a huge drop in tax revenue.

With unemployment still adding to the jobless roles in most communities across the country, that translates into lost jobs and less sales.

Here are the reports from the San Jose City Council and the Santa Clara County Supervisors on this year's budget:



Quote:
SANTA CLARA COUNTY BUDGET:
Santa Clara County approves painful budget cuts to close $273 million deficit
By Denis C. Theriault
Mercury News
Posted: 06/19/2009 06:05:37 PM PDT
Updated: 06/19/2009 09:59:35 PM PDT
The Santa Clara County Board of Supervisors on Friday reluctantly took an ax to the health programs at the heart of the county's budget, unanimously approving a spending plan for the next fiscal year that closes a $273 million deficit.
Among the most dramatic cuts, almost a quarter of the health department's regional nursing staff " nearly two dozen nurses " will be lost. That reduction comes even as the swine flu pandemic highlights the vital role played by the county's health department.
In addition, mental health treatment for uninsured children and adults has been pared back, and substance abuse treatment programs have been sharply curtailed.
The board, however, made no cuts to the county's public safety budget, which funds the jails and the district attorney's and sheriff's offices. And it restored $1.3 million in proposed cuts for social service nonprofits that rely on county assistance to care for low-income residents, seniors and others.
"We're cutting into our direct services to the public," Board President Liz Kniss said.
The vote on the county's $2.2 billion operating budget for the fiscal year beginning July 1 ends weeks of intense deliberations. Members of the public pleaded with the board to spare a passel of programs targeted for reductions.
But as supervisors weighed those concerns " especially with another round of state cuts looming " they said they had little choice.


SAN JOSE CITY BUDGET:
As this Proposed Budget is being developed, the City of San Jose faces declining revenues of historic proportions. Sales Tax, Property Tax, Transient Occupancy Tax (fOT), and development related fees and taxes are all down significantly, along with airport passenger traffic levels. Readers of this message will ,find a combination of strategies designed to deal with the significant funding shortfall:
1) service reductions and eliminations; 2) revenue increases, use of reserves, and funding shifts; 3) costs savings and new service delivery models; and, 4) initial steps to flatten the management structure of the organization. In addition, a number of two-year strategies are employed to ease the immediate impact of some proposals and provide time for a transition. Additionally, the planned opening of several new facilities will be delayed. Finally, one-time solutions have been minimized in
recognition of the already significant deficit projected for 2010-2011. None of the proposed strategies, however, has alleviated the need to impose significant reductions throughout nearly every City operation.
As we begin the eighth consecutive year of budget reductions, the City Council is now well aware of San Joses structural deficit and the challenge this presents to our long term fiscal outlook. With two-thirds of General Fund expenditures designated for personnel costs, the reductions proposed in this budget will mean fewer employees to provide the services our residents and businesses have come to expect. These significant reductions will include reduced police and fire services with cuts in both the sworn and non-sworn ranks; reduced library hours; reduced community centers; reduced parks services; along with reduced maintenance of many City facilities and our transportation infrastructure.


When the state of California was in the negotiating stage of how to cut expenses, they were considering laying off 5,000 workers out of 235,000 employees to cut expenses, but that would not have made enough impact to really cut cost. That represents about 2% of the work force, and would barely dent the deficit of over 26 billion dollars.

California finally approved the budget, but they're still playing games without actually cutting costs; they're shifting cost by borrowing from city and county budgets, and transferring some expenses into next fiscal year.

Something about working in government that makes them fiscally irresponsible; they wouldn't survive running their home budgets that way.









0 Replies
 
hawkeye10
 
  1  
Reply Tue 21 Jul, 2009 09:23 pm
@engineer,
Quote:
Los Angeles County could lose the use of up to $500 million for the next fiscal year, Mr. Knabe said. That would add to the county's projected $300 million shortfall in its $23.5 billion budget, of which supervisors can control $3.5 billion. That could mean cuts to services like parks and libraries.

The state could borrow about $25.6 million from Contra Costa County, said Contra Costa administrator David Twa. He says the county is in no shape to cut back more after slashing $156 million from its budget and laying off 600 workers.

San Francisco would be forced to lend the state up to $90 million under the governor's proposal, said city Controller Ben Rosenfield. With the city already facing a $438 million budget gap, officials would likely borrow funds if the state takes their property-tax revenue, he said. "It costs us money to borrow," Mr. Rosenfield said. "It'll end up falling on future fiscal years."

Administrators in smaller counties also oppose the governor's idea. The budget deficit of Kern County, in the Central Valley, could increase by $26 million if the state goes through with its plan, said Allan Krauter, Kern's legislative analyst. "We're going to have more layoffs with this," he said.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124294953351345429.html

The state blithely tells the locals to borrow commercially against the states IOUS, But given that the states credit rating is junk we know what kind of interest rates will be demanded.
hawkeye10
 
  1  
Reply Tue 21 Jul, 2009 09:33 pm
Quote:
By JESSE McKINLEY
Published: July 21, 2009
SAN FRANCISCO " As lawmakers in Sacramento worked out the details of California’s long-delayed budget, local officials across the state Tuesday loudly criticized a deal that leans heavily on counties and cities to fill a $26 billion gap, with some vowing to fight the move in court immediately. The Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors voted to sue the state to stop it from withholding billions of dollars in highway taxes and redevelopment money, a maneuver others called the legislative equivalent of a holdup. “They’re stealing $1 billion in local government gas taxes,“ said Paul McIntosh, the executive director of the California State Association of Counties, a nonprofit lobbying group. “They don’t have the legal authority to take those revenues. I think that’s the definition of stealing, isn’t it?“


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/22/us/22local.html?_r=1
0 Replies
 
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Wed 22 Jul, 2009 02:12 pm
@hawkeye10,
I wrote in an earlier post:
Quote:
California finally approved the budget, but they're still playing games without actually cutting costs; they're shifting cost by borrowing from city and county budgets, and transferring some expenses into next fiscal year.


Rather than the word "borrowing" in my post, it should read "stealing."
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Sun 11 Oct, 2009 07:03 pm
@cicerone imposter,
The feds have allocated $27 billion for California - the biggest share of the stimulus plan.
0 Replies
 
 

Related Topics

Dollar circulation map - Discussion by gungasnake
Who Deserves to Be on Money, But Isn't - Discussion by Brandon9000
The future of money - Question by Cyracuz
HOW TO GET WEALTHY - Discussion by farmerman
$100 B series 1950 - Question by Carl W Vincent
What is remittance? - Question by MaxAndrew
The War and America's Tax Money - Discussion by edgarblythe
 
Copyright © 2024 MadLab, LLC :: Terms of Service :: Privacy Policy :: Page generated in 0.03 seconds on 05/05/2024 at 02:54:25