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Jesus said I am the way.

 
 
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 2 Aug, 2009 05:53 pm
@Foxfyre,
I just find them wonderful and do hope that there will at least be dogs and horses in the next life.
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I just knew you had no judgment as how dare you leave out the most important creature on the planet far more important then humans as we are just here to services their needs IE cats.

panzade
 
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Reply Sun 2 Aug, 2009 05:57 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
I just knew you had no judgment as how dare you leave out the most important creature on the planet far more important then humans as we are just here to services their needs IE cats.


Are you saying Foxy is going to hell, Bill?
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 2 Aug, 2009 06:08 pm
@panzade,
Are you saying Foxy is going to hell, Bill?
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Well anyone who could leave out cats would belong in hell assuming there is a hell.

When it is my time my ashes will be mixed with two dogs and a far greater number of cats as if there is an after life I am bringing my dogs and cats along with me<grin>.

Not one dumb horse however.
panzade
 
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Reply Sun 2 Aug, 2009 06:35 pm
@BillRM,
I love it when you smile
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sun 2 Aug, 2009 06:52 pm
@BillRM,
I didn't leave out cats. People don't have a lot of say about cats. People don't own cats. Cats own people, and if critters will be in the next life, cats will probably dictate the terms by which that will happen. We raised Siamese cats for many years, along with a fair number of neighborhood ferals. So, no prejudice against cats.
Intrepid
 
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Reply Sun 2 Aug, 2009 06:55 pm
@panzade,
panzade wrote:

Quote:
I think Russia is essentially Christian.


a mouthful of hot and sour soup sprayed my monitor when I read this...puhleeeze


I hope you didn't lose too much soup. Actually, Spendius is correct in that Orthodox Christianity is the biggest religion in Russia.
panzade
 
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Reply Sun 2 Aug, 2009 07:03 pm
@Intrepid,
apos spendi. 70% of the Russian population considers itself christian...enough to make your correction correct. I'll now move on to the crow lo mein
Intrepid
 
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Reply Sun 2 Aug, 2009 07:04 pm
@panzade,
Enjoy your meal Smile
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 2 Aug, 2009 07:14 pm
@Foxfyre,
People don't own cats. Cats own people
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Well it nice that we can agree on something.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 2 Aug, 2009 11:51 pm
@spendius,
Quote:
You have to laugh though.
These guns you fire under strictly controlled conditions [??]
have to be made at prices you can afford.

WHAT conditions are THESE ??
and who is controlling them "strictly" ??

Will u explain that to me, Spendius ?

We have just gone to gunnery ranges
or to a forrest or a ravine, or out on a desert.
Most of the time, there is no one else there to get "strict" with us.

What is all this "strict" stuff, Spendius ?
As a general rule, I don 't do "strict."

More ofen, I do free, e z & comfortable, tho safe.

I think your Englishness is showing.
"Strict"ness is authoritarian Englishness.
We usually discharge our firearms in a safe, tho libertarian environment.






Quote:
That means mass production and not just of the guns. The steel.
The distribution of the steel. The distribution of energy to make the steel.
The energy to run the machines which turn the steel into working parts.
I'm simplifying of course. It seems to be necessary here.

Then there's the ammo. That's a whole other world.

In America, we have a weekly news show called "60 Minutes",
one of whose news stories a few years ago concerned some
Moslem tribesmen (if I remember, in the mountains of Pakistan).
Thay had no electricity in their village, but thay were doing a
thriving business in patent infringement of fully automatic weapons
of several varieties, of good quality.

We have had criminals manufacture fully automatic submachineguns in prison workshops,
one-part-at-a-time, with the guards looking on and assembled in private.
It is not unusual for American prison guards to find both home made knives
and guns in their "shakedowns". Sometimes guns are discovered
when a loud noise is heard and a bleeding prisoner
is found next to a home made zip gun.

When I was a boy, we had an abundance of guns in our neighborhood in Arizona,
but as a passtime some of the guys made their own guns anyway,
with a wide variation in gunsmithing talents. Guns go back
among the world 's first machines with moving parts.
Some of the fellows liked to make their own ammo because
it was better, more precisely to their liking, than the ammo
that we got in hardware stores.



I have a pamphlet from the Paladin Press detailing how to make
one of several submachineguns; estimated work time asserted
to be around a week.


What do u have in mind qua "a romantic" ?
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BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2009 02:28 am
@Foxfyre,
Foxfyre cats can love but not worship so a cat would be more then capable of going up the god on his throne in front of his host of angels and demanding that the cat box be clean now or that god should get off his rear end and feed him or her also now.

From the old testament and god stated need and demand to be worship, he is surely more of a dog person.

Intrepid
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2009 09:25 am
@BillRM,
Shocked Rolling Eyes
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2009 09:27 am
@Intrepid,
I think Bill was making a funny, Intrepid. An olive branch perhaps? Smile
Intrepid
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2009 09:32 am
@Foxfyre,
A crown of thorns, more likely. Smile


I am doing some painting today and it is making me grumpy
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2009 09:45 am
@Intrepid,
Aw, I had a grumpy husband who was painting yesterday. But it's okay. This too shall pass and you'll be fine.

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq289/LindaBee_2008/th_Hugs.jpg

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Philis
 
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Reply Wed 30 Sep, 2009 03:21 am
@Primotivo,
God has said he is a jealous god ...he stated in 1 of the ten commandments....you shall have no other gods before me.....Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. Only the creator of the universe has the ability and power to raise the dead/resurrect the dead from the grave.
fresco
 
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Reply Wed 30 Sep, 2009 05:54 am
@Philis,
...but for more joys of "word magic" try ...

Quote:
Jesus get power -- da kine power ony God get. Az how he wen give us guys everyting we need fo live to da max fo real kine, da way God like. God do dat, cuz us guys know him real good. He da One dat wen tell us guys “Come, be my guys,” cuz he so awesome, an so good. Jesus wen give us all da real importan stuff he wen promise, an dass worth plenny. An he wen give us all dat so us guys can come jalike God inside our heart. An same time, we can hemo from all da rotten pilau tings da peopo all ova da world do, cuz dey make any kine how dey like. (Letta Numba 2 from Peter 1:3-4)
(Da Pidgin Bible)

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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 30 Sep, 2009 08:17 am
@Primotivo,
Primotivo wrote:

He didn't say I am the only way.

Does that mean Buddha, Allah or other "gods" can save people?
People who have returned from the deaths of their human bodies
(defined as no EKG, no EEG & no respiration for a while)
have reported Life Review experiences
in the presence of a superintelligent Being of LIght,
during which the people themselves judge the value
of their incarnate lives, by 2 criteria: Love and Learning.


Of the many 1000s of people who have reported on this,
no person has ever indicated being rejected because of membership
in the rong religion, altho complaints were received from atheists and from suicides.





David
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Wed 30 Sep, 2009 08:38 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Not so long ago I was reading about a 'near death' experience in which the person passed over for a time and then returned to his earthly body. He reports that the people on the other side--that God--were not interested in his theology.

I think he was speaking the truth whether it actually happened to him or whether he dreamed it. I think God gets to call the shots on this stuff and our quite imperfect attempts to nail down what is and is not acceptable to God are often going to widely miss the mark.

All this is to say, that in my studies, it has been my impression that all religions have discovered something of truth, but none are perfect or complete so far as we mere mortals understand them, and I suspect none of us can claim the magic bullet to the exclusion of all others.

For me personally, Christianity is not a 'religion' with a set of rules and rituals and dogma that must be practiced or believed, but it is the experience of and relationship with the living Christ. For me that is certainty and I believe life changing for all who have experienced it, and I think that is why God does want people to know Him in that way.

But, I have also experienced that God indeed works in mysterious ways, and probably has a whole lot of ways to work things out with people.

And that's why I think we are instructed that it is not our prerogative to judge who has made the cut.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 30 Sep, 2009 09:37 am
@Foxfyre,
Foxfyre wrote:

Not so long ago I was reading about a 'near death' experience in which the person passed over for a time and then returned to his earthly body. He reports that the people on the other side--that God--were not interested in his theology.

I think he was speaking the truth whether it actually happened to him or whether he dreamed it. I think God gets to call the shots on this stuff and our quite imperfect attempts to nail down what is and is not acceptable to God are often going to widely miss the mark.

All this is to say, that in my studies, it has been my impression that all religions have discovered something of truth, but none are perfect or complete so far as we mere mortals understand them, and I suspect none of us can claim the magic bullet to the exclusion of all others.

For me personally, Christianity is not a 'religion' with a set of rules and rituals and dogma that must be practiced or believed, but it is the experience of and relationship with the living Christ. For me that is certainty and I believe life changing for all who have experienced it, and I think that is why God does want people to know Him in that way.

But, I have also experienced that God indeed works in mysterious ways, and probably has a whole lot of ways to work things out with people.

And that's why I think we are instructed that it is not our prerogative to judge who has made the cut.
In one of the books of Raymond Moody, M.D.,
a friend of mine, he tells of a southern Protestant clergyman
who was revived after having died of a heart attack.
He had been a fierce Bible thumper who habitually
and severely threatened his congregation.
After his revival, he said that he was surprized that God
was not interested in his theology. He became more serene and benign.

Some decedents have described Life Review Experiences
wherein not only did thay feel (again) their own experiences
of interactions with others, but thay also felt their effects
upon the others, to wit:
one Tom Sawyer asserted that during a Life Review Experience,
he observed and felt the incident of an inter-vehicular collision
wherein he repeatedly slugged the other motorist in the mouth,
in the expression of his sentiments qua that occasion.

Tom said that in his Life Review Experience, he felt not only
the pain in his own hand, but also that of his victim.
Attesteth he: that was not enuf. He said that he felt the remote
emotional pain of persons who were not present at the time
nor place of the occurrance, such that Tom felt the derivative sadness
of Junior who did not get a bike for his birthday because Dad
had to deplete available re$ource$ for a dental emergency.
Dr. Moody refers to this as a secondary "ripple effect".
From this, I extrapolated that it might be wise (and fun)
to go around committing unexpected R.A.S.K.s (random acts
of senseless kindness) like begifting unexpecting beautiful
waitresses with $100.oo tips, or unexpectedly begifting friends
with automatic umbrellas stuffed with $20s, $50s, $100s bills,
or just books with $100.oo bills included as bookmarks, etc;
creative unexpected gifts, that in time u yourself will re-experience.

Some folks who have returned from death
(meaning no EKG, no EEG, no respiration for a while)
have reported intuiting that all life, e.g.: the frantic medical personnel
who r reviving them, the tree growing across the street etc.
share the same life, and that the diversity of life is illusionary;
i.e., the acccurate number of people alive in the universe is ONE.

Some believe that to a solitary Eternal Being,
the only threat is boredom





David

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