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Umm, is this seriously serious? Bill in senate: $1000.00$ fine to refuse medical insurance???!??!?!

 
 
OGIONIK
 
Reply Fri 3 Jul, 2009 06:10 pm
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The Americans who refuse to sign up for affordable medical insurance could be hit with fines of more than $1,000 under a health care overhaul bill unveiled Thursday by key Senate Democrats looking to fulfill President Barack Obama’s top domestic priority. It’s estimated these fines could raise $36 billion over 10 years. Senate aides said the penalties would be modeled on the approach taken by Massachusetts, which now imposes a fine of about $1,000 a year on individuals who refuse to get coverage. Under the federal legislation, families would pay higher penalties than individuals.

People would be required to carry health insurance just like motorists must get auto coverage now. The government would provide subsidies for the poor and many middle-class families, but those who still refuse to sign up would face penalties. This is called Shared Responsibility Payments and the fines would be set at least half the cost of basic medical coverage, according to the legislation. The goal is to nudge people to sign up for coverage when they are healthy, not wait until they get sick.

The legislation would exempt certain hardship cases from fines. The fines would be collected through the income tax system. The new proposals were released as Congress neared the end of a weeklong July 4 break, with lawmakers expected to quickly take up health care legislation when they return to Washington. With deepening divisions along partisan and ideological lines, the complex legislation faces an uncertain future.

Obama wants a bill this year that would provide coverage to the nearly 50 million Americans who lack it and reduce medical costs. The Senate Health Education, Labor and Pensions bill also calls for a government-run insurance option to compete with private plans as well as a $750-per-worker annual fee on larger companies that do not offer coverage to employees.

The Congressional Budget Office, in an analysis released Thursday evening, put the net cost of the proposal at $597 billion over 10 years, down from $1 trillion two weeks ago. Coverage expansions worth $645 billion would be partly offset by savings of $48 billion. The Health Committee could complete its portion of the bill as soon as next week, and the presence of a government health insurance option virtually assures a party-line vote.

The Finance Committee version of the bill is unlikely to include a government-run insurance option. Bipartisan negotiations are centered on a proposal for a nonprofit insurance cooperative as a competitor to private companies. Three committees are collaborating in the House on legislation expected to come to a vote by the end of July. That measure is certain to include a government-run insurance option
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OGIONIK
 
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Reply Fri 3 Jul, 2009 06:11 pm
@OGIONIK,
hahahahahahaha...

aw hell naw..


oh whee! isnt this disturbing? i guess they are tired of people going to the E.R. and skipping the bill

^_^

so they just bill everyone! YAYAYAYAY!
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dadpad
 
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Reply Fri 3 Jul, 2009 07:58 pm
Not really any different to Australia, where we pay a medicare levy on taxable income.
To help fund the scheme, resident taxpayers are subject to a Medicare levy. Normally, we calculate your Medicare levy at the rate of 1.5% of your taxable income. A variation to this calculation may occur in certain circumstances.

Individuals and families on incomes above the Medicare levy surcharge thresholds who do not have private patient hospital cover may have to pay the Medicare levy surcharge.
This surcharge is in addition to the Medicare levy. We calculate it at the rate of 1% of your taxable income (including your total reportable fringe benefits).

The one problem with a surcharge is that many wealthy people are able to minimise taxable income sometimes to zero and therefore do not pay their share.
Rockhead
 
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Reply Fri 3 Jul, 2009 08:33 pm
@dadpad,
I wonder how it works for those who have been denied coverage.
dadpad
 
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Reply Fri 3 Jul, 2009 11:04 pm
@Rockhead,
I've never encountered that problem. Everyone is entitled to medical care.
The only thing with the public system here is that you don't get to choose your own doctor(s).
There is a gap between what the medicos charge and what the state will pay for so we always end up paying some part or portion of medical bills for Eg a visit to our GP costs around (ballpark) $50.00. Medicare pays around $35.00 so i need to kick in the rest. Public Hospitals tend to charge the scheduled fee (what the gov determine is suitable).except for somethings like radiaography.
That can run into a sizeable amount if specialists surgery radiography and rehab is required.

I guess if the private health insurance agencies decline to insure you, you fall back on the public medicare system which you pay for via the medicare levy on your taxable income.
OGIONIK
 
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Reply Sun 5 Jul, 2009 06:29 pm
@dadpad,
lol, its still effing hilarious to me.

ahha...

1000 dollars , every year, for life.

what a great scam. why not just call it a ******* tax? people dont like that tax word do they?
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