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The good things the USA does

 
 
JTT
 
Reply Sat 28 Mar, 2009 11:50 pm
This how they treat their friends. What can their enemies expect?

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DEADLY LEGACY

Dangerous Ground, Leftover bombs, Chemicals
Wreak Havoc at Former U.S. Bases in Philippines
Benjamin Pimentel, Chronicle 5jul01

Zambales Province, Philippines -- The U.S. military withdrew from two major bases in the Philippines in the early 1990s, admitting that it was no longer welcome. The pullout quieted a storm of nationalist protest and appeared to close a difficult chapter in the two countries' complex, shared history.

But nearly a decade later, the former Subic Bay Naval Station and Clark Air Base are again the subject of a bitter dispute.

American and Philippine environmentalists say U.S. forces left a trail of hazardous waste - from chemical-laced water that it is believed to have caused children to contract crippling diseases to unexploded bombs that have maimed and killed villagers.

The Pentagon says there is no proof that the U.S. military caused widespread contamination at Subic and Clark, and it refuses to clean up or even investigate the sites, saying that's the job of the Philippine government, which inherited the valuable real estate.

Some Philippine officials denounce the Pentagon's position as arrogant and possibly illegal.

"Why this is not being addressed is befuddling to me and many Filipinos," said Environment Secretary Heherson Alvarez.

The human toll is poignantly obvious in the affected areas.

A dozen residents of the town of Madapdap, within the Clark base's former boundaries, say the water they drank and used for bathing and cooking reeked of fuel and made them sick.

http://www.mindfully.org/Pesticide/Bombs-Chemicals-US-Leftovers.htm

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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 29 Mar, 2009 12:16 am
They wanted us out in a hurry, so we got out in a hurry. I don't feel bad in the slightest for not cleaning up the mess before we decamped. This whole ordeal was the making of the incompetent Filipino political leadership. If the citizens of the Philippines object to what was done then they should take this subject up with their leaders.
dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 29 Mar, 2009 01:19 am
@JTT,
That's what the Brits did here in Maralinga, from their nuclear tests in the fifties.

It seems to be a superpower thing.
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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 29 Mar, 2009 11:01 am
@hawkeye10,
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I don't feel bad in the slightest for not cleaning up the mess before we decamped.


So what's new for the good ole US of A and those who leap to support the wanton disregard for those things that constitute basic human decency.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 29 Mar, 2009 11:28 am
@JTT,
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So what's new for the good ole US of A and those who leap to support the wanton disregard for those things that constitute basic human decency


It is their country, not ours, they are responsible for what happens to it. Had the political leaders not decided to break the alliance, had they broke it but done it over a reasonable amount of time and without vilifying the USA, or had they demanded that we clean the place up and made a stink about it if we did not....in all of those alternatives they would not be in the current situation. They made their choices, they got what they ordered.

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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 29 Mar, 2009 11:37 am
@hawkeye10,
Just as I said, there are those who possess not a shred of decency.

Should we mark this one down under the "good things the USA does"?
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 29 Mar, 2009 11:48 am
@JTT,
We were given one year to get out, and at the end the Philippine government accepted the keys and said that we had fulfilled our agreement to get out. We kept our end of the deal, the Philippine government accepted that we were done.

If the Philippine government changes their mind and can prove that the area is a toxic mess, that we caused it, then America will revisit the issue. Failing that, having honored our former friends wishes to end the friendship, we are under no obligation to investigate or pay for the problems in a country that we no longer have any ties too.
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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 5 Apr, 2009 10:24 pm
I'm gonna hafta leave this thread alone, as it's just too damn tiring keeping up with all the reading on the list of good things done.
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