@Setanta,
I know a great digression thread. People like the pusillanimous supposedly erudite Setanta forced to debate mano a mano with me. Since he practically wets his pants when he sees a challenge from me, because I eviscerated his arguments a few years ago, he hides.
If the "erudite" like Setanta ( that is what he claims) were really so good, they would be able to banish conservatives easily by merely showing how wrong the conservatives were--with evidence of course--but,alas, they cannot, so they,like a pack of chimpanzees, groom each other and repeat--over and over--liberalism is good, isn't it? What frightened little men and women!