Obama echoes Bush: CIA abductees can’t sue

Part of war is bombing the enemy.

Speaking of bombing the enemy (or in this case, mistakenly hitting civilians), does A2K have a thread yet about the video clips where the helicopters open up on the Reuters reporter with 30MM machineguns? I imagine there should be one, even though it was a terrible mistake.

So, how many people are appointed POWs by the president?

Aren't POWs members of enemy armies captured during a war?

Why do I get the feeling this has been discussed to no effect several times in the past?

oralloy wrote:

Part of war is bombing the enemy.

Before you can invoke the law of war, there must first be a war. America is not at war with Yemen.

Therefore, if America has reason to believe there are AlQueda groups plotting attacks in Yemen, it can present its case in a Yemeni court. Then it can let Yemeni authorities take it from there.

You might not like the idea that there are places in the world that Americas are not in charge of. But that's just too bad. The world has not elected America to be its vigilante committee.

There is one, but I see you have already found it.
http://able2know.org/topic/143535-1

America does not need anyone's permission to bomb suspected terrorists.

Oralloy wrote:

America does not need anyone's permission to bomb suspected terrorists.

What asinine nonsense.

But the reality is, the White House can order the Pentagon to blow something up, anywhere on the planet, and they will go blow it up. They will not stop to ask ANY foreign governments or organizations for their permission first.

But the reality is, the White House can order the Pentagon to blow something up, anywhere on the planet, and they will go blow it up. They will not stop to ask ANY foreign governments or organizations for their permission first.

Oralloy wrote:

But the reality is, the White House can order the Pentagon to blow something up, anywhere on the planet, and they will go blow it up. They will not stop to ask ANY foreign governments or organizations for their permission first.

You really don't understand anything about anything, do you.

In what seems to be a recurring theme, Senator Obama supported the Free Flow of Information Act, but President Obama does not. In 2007, he was one of the sponsors of the original Senate bill, but in 2009 he objected to the scope of the privilege envisioned by the bill and requested that the Senate revise the bill to require judges to defer to executive branch judgments. Although the bill passed in the House in the last Congressional session, it stalled in the Senate and now has to be reintroduced.

The record of the Obama administration on this fundamental issue of American democracy has surely fallen short of expectations. This is a lesson in “trust us.” Those in power are always certain that they themselves will act reasonably, and they resist limits on their own discretion. The problem is, “trust us” is no way to run a self-governing society.

So, what's your opinion, did Obama deceive us to get elected, change his mind, or revise his outlook based on new information?

So, what's your opinion, did Obama deceive us to get elected, change his mind, or revise his outlook based on new information?

[Panetta's] comments Monday about al-Qaeda and the Iraq war raised eyebrows.

“The reason you guys are here is because on 9/11 the United States got attacked,” he told troops at Camp Victory, the largest U.S. military outpost in Baghdad. “And 3,000 Americans — 3,000 not just Americans, 3,000 human beings, innocent human beings — got killed because of al-Qaeda. And we’ve been fighting as a result of that.”